Merge D1 & D2

Not a bad idea.

State Champ, then Big V (one division 2,3 or 4 conferences) with strict promotion and relegation, then YLs.

Who is heading up to SCM....

Anon

Great reply, unfortunately will never happen

The Big V are a greedy bunch of people who would rather have so many teams in the comp so they can all get paid than running a decent comp.

This is why team such as Mornington have to fold. Have a look down there, if you are a decent player you can play for Frankston, Mornington, Western Port, Chelsea, McKinnon - all pretty much a short drive to each other.

The BigV is about making money rather than making a good brand - if you look at SEABL they have only expended a few teams over the years and that's why I would go a pay to see a SEABL game of a SCM game.

Really could you see Curio Bay or McKinnon being competitive in SEABL - too many teams makes the talent thin across the league.

When BigV was VBL you never saw imports in Div1 now we see them in Div1 and Div2, why? Because there is not enough local talent to cover the team.

BigV is a joke and just a chance for the board to grab some cash over putting together a great product...

Casey are definitely going to SCM, that's apparently all organised.

Warrnambool are looking into it as well. Chelsea want to but would be silly to do so as it would not be sustainable.

BIG V makes money??? Check the finacials mate they end up with a balance close to zero ha ha, great post go home you`re drunk.

No freaking way should youth league run mid week, Mark you are absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong with that idea! Youth league is not an extension of the VJBl, never should be and your suggestion is just stupid, dumb and with no facts behind it.

Saturday and Sunday for youth league is working fine, no need to break something that is working, the other concept for seniors is good though, because it might actually improve something, but leave youth league alone, period!

Div Two will always be there. As there needs to be a starting place and somewhere for teams to bottom out I guess.

A lot of teams who are now in higher divisions have all been there at one time or another.

Mckinnon
Southern Pen
Whittlesea
Hawthorn
Warrandyte


fact is there is probably a fair few of the larger associations that deserve to fall down to this level due to the standards they have dished up over a few years now. The fact is they will have the cash and resources to stop that from ever happening.

Merge D2 and D1??? Then you end up with 5-8 team who will simply be training fodder for the rest of the teams.

They maybe able to recruit from elsewhere as they can now call themselves a D1 team.

With the inclusion of Youth and D league a few years back. We saw the bigger clubs be able to retain for a another 5 years at least the junior players that were not good enough to make there state champ or seabl teams. These players used to filter out into other BIG V/VBL clubs.

The result was those Divisional leagues were much stronger then that of today.

Some clubs would then have a State champ side and a Divisonal side. The second side had no age restriction like today but was filled with senor players better suited to make the jump to higher divisions.

The negative was that some of these teams were stocked with older players who just wouldn`t give it away when they needed to.

As with junior rep there is 100`s of players now playing at a so called elite level that don`t deserve to be there. Positive is participation is up. Negative is talent is stretched further and as one person stated above there are teams using imports in D2 now just to survive.

D2 Men Craigieburn, Keysborough and Westernport finish top 3, with out there imports they arent there. In the women`s Chelsea have an import and win the title, they lose to a team with out and import if this isn`t the case.

Then maybe we need to look at limiting the amount of imports or what they are paid?

Imports should be resevered for D1 and above. If the club can`t feild a team from what they have locally they are not ready for that level yet.

Argument made for a country side as they have less to pool from. With that said i belive all country teams are in D1 or above with the exception of North East who are only two years young in the league and don`t have imports.

Div 1 straight into SC promotion can never happen. The current model where the winner has to show they can recruit either locally or through imports is a good idea. The gap between leagues right now is huge. just as the jump from D2 to D1 one is.

Last time I remeber conferences was in D2 in the early to mid 2000`s

Three conferences, top two from each made finals automatically and the two best placed 3rd team made the 7th and 8th spot.

And Melton who won D2 Championship in 2013 won the D1 Championship in 2015. It can be done.

Is about offering a good level of competition, people play to win and play at as higher level as possible, people don't bust chops to play in a league beneath there skill level and want to just walking in a smash teams every week!

Shep and Melton were young sides so still improving. The jump for them was good as they will keep getting better. Craigieburn didn`t have that same youth nor has Casey, will be interesting if it is sustainable.

Keysborough by far the oldest side in D2 and have just won and will go up. I am sure Coach Vogt will be looking around for new players to top up the list to help out at the next level.

Crowds are actually bigger in the lower divisions

definitley gone..new coach,Gary Jones according to people who saw it on facebook

Justforlaughs why bring that up? Breath life in a topic that's been forgotten about for a while.

Have people stopped paying your club attention?

Promotion and relegation in and out of CBL and MMBL. Have YL ran mid week as a proper extension of VJBL.

These are the worst and most unworkable ideas ever!

Looking for a Facebook post about Brian V leaving Sherbrooke, can't find anything. Anyone got a source on that??

Gary Jones
18 October at 15:46 ·
Shout out to any basketballers who are interested in playing big v div 1 women's for sherbrooke suns l have the great honour of being asked to coach this team which l have proudly accepted so any one interested please come down to belgrave Christian college tomorrow night monday 6 30pm . to 8pm registrations from 6pm all welcome