Diamond Valley with upset

Any news how Oakley go?

Dandenong won

Knox beat Eltham

IMO despite what others have written previously in other posts throughout the year, this is a very even competition and on any one night any team can beat any team. Bottom of the ladder DV knocked off top of the table Melbourne so that sort of proves my point. And the Tigers has lost its last two, the other against 6th placed Hawthorn who has shown this season to be a little inconsistent.

Great job by Oakleigh to get where they did and proved a few knockers wrong, and Waverley could be considered a little stiff firmed up in 7th spot 3 weeks ago and now on the bottom of the ladder and out of the playoffs.

It's been a very tight season, and whilst you could suggest it will be out of Melbourne, Dandenong and Knox (or even Eltham), I think there could easily be some big surprises with one of the top 4 teams out in straight sets, such is the eveness of the competition.

My tips for this week assuming I got my ladder right as they are not up yet;
4th Knox over 1st Melbourne
3rd Eltham over 2nd Dandenong
8th Diamond Valley over 5th Keilor
6th Hawthorn over 7th Sandringham

VC Reserve results were mostly close and finals will be interesting, Whittlesea and Werribee resulted in a 72-70 win to the pacers and they will again meet this week in a qualifying final.

Frankston 59 defeated Broadmeadows 40 and the broncos will play again the Blues who ended up fifth on percentage in the finals.

Nunawading 72 got over Warrandyte 61 and the Spectres will now meet Geelong in the other qualifying final, the Supercats as expected easily took care of cellar dwellar Camberwell 80-44 and look the team to beat.

Bulleen 54 in a close one over Coburg 52 also leaves both teams fighting off again in an elimination final.

Next week's finals look like this (I believe):

Geelong v Nunawading
Whittlesea v Werribee

Frankston v Broadmeadows
Bulleen v Coburg

Not sure why some games are at the State Center or MSAC, but others are spread all over the place, like Montmorency Secondary College, Eltham High School, Waverley or Knox?

I thought VC and VC RES finals could all be held at MSAC or the State Center or Werribee, some place where people can go and watch them all together!

What is going on with the VJBL and their scheduling, this is rubbish????????????????

Yep we were heading to Werribee to support Supercat teams, but oh no they play everywhere from Keilor to MSAC. Really VJBL ????

I have heard that Melbourne had a couple of players walk out on them? They were a shoe-in for VC final, not any longer VC can go to any one of Melbourne, Knox or Dandenong I think. VC Res looks like either Whittlesea or Werribee will have to try and beat Geelong who are killing everyone lately.

Who walked

In Melbourne's last 9 games they've won 3 by 2, 7 and 5 points and lost their last two games by 18 and 17.

So 5 out of 9 teams in the competition have either beaten them or come within 7 points.

I think it's a stretch to say they were a shoe in for the VC final.

And like #354, who walked?

They got cleaned up by DV player who hit 40 and Melbourne full strength

Don't know, just heard from someone, could be crap!

Hadley didn't have 30 but he had plenty, Melbourne not at full strength

37 actually,still fair effort

Colina only player missing and it was well over 30

Well hats off to DV then. makes the Oakleigh result a little more palatable. Oakleigh will continue to do well.

Next season maybe, they are out.

Aren't we done with Oakley yet!? Have a break and maybe better luck next season.... But please no more about Oakley....

Results anyone ?

DV over Keilor. Any others come through ?

Dandy beat Eltham
Melb beat Knox

Brief rundown of scores from last night for those who bother to read rather than search the VJBL web site, more entertaining this way anyhoo.

VC 18 Men

Diamond Valley 57 hung on to defeat Keilor 52 who will have no chance at redemption next week because unbelievably they are now out, but the Eagles can play on for a spot in the preliminary.

As predicted, 2nd placed Dandenong 52 beat Eltham 43 to get a week off while the Wildcats get a second chance.

Hawthorn 74 smacked Sandringham 51 to play on next week while the Sabres join the Thunder at Mad Monday!

Low scoring saw Melbourne 49 just over Knox 45, so the Tiggers also get a break next week while the Raiders carry on in a knock out final.

VC Res 18 Men

The top teams appear to be shining, with Werribee 74 taking care of last week's loss to Whittlesea 50 in commanding fashion. When they shoot it well, the Devils are hard to defeat and their height was also a worry for the Pacers who now play the Giants in a knock out.

In the other qualifying final Geelong 70 equally dominated Nunawading 49 after the Spectres gave everything they had to be close at the main break the Supercats pulled away and get a rest next week. Can't see who can prevent a Supercats v Devils final, but you never know.

Coburg 52 took care of Bulleen 36 who struggled to score and are out while in a minor upset the Broadmedows Broncos 56 beat Frankston 52 to keep their finals alive for another week.

Hawthorn a dark horse?

No - Dandenong will win

Dandenong have the wood over Melbourne? If they meet in the final that is???

Guys who walked from Melbourne?

Hope Dandenong do win. Baldwin had been the supreme U18 coach and his players all buy into his system.

What's big and rich got to do with it. The club don't buy players or offer anything whatsoever to help so that's some very odd statement.

Never said winning was easy I said he was a supreme coach that has players respecting him.

No you didn't say he was 'a supreme coach' in your first post as you did in your second, you said he was 'the supreme coach'. There's a big difference, and I have to agree with #208 that he's hardly dominating the competition at 13 3 and 2. And with only two games separating 2nd to 6th, that's hardly dominating, nor is winning your first final by 9.

He may be a very good coach, and he may be getting the players to buy in, but it is a massive stretch to say he is 'the supreme coach' in the competition.

Having said that, I agree with you that being rich (which I'm not sure they are as rich as people would think) has nothing to do with it.

Aagh, God Bless Regional Ricky!!

Compared with many Associations out there Dandenong is richer than most.

Have you seen Dandenong's SEABL list, Christ what would they have cost?

DV won final against Keilor who finished 5th.

How did Oakliegh go against Keilor?

How the hell can anyone point a finger at BV for these allegations? If any formal report was made the VJBL would look into it, but unless someone has a video of the game there would be no evidence anyway.

What a crock, get over yourself.

Saw losers when your boy gets torched!!!

Thats sore my bad

Tigers Tanked, would be pretty funny if Diamond Valley beat them in the final

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this competition is so close that on any given night any team can beat any other team, and any other team can beat a team by 20 or more. Just depends who turns up to play.

From the Tiger's perspective, so what if they got some minutes into their bench, for them it was a dead rubber, even if they lost they still had head to head over Dandenong.

And I can't recall seeing Sportsbet complaining.

That aside, do you think any coach ever goes into a game saying they don't care if they lose? Never seen it happen. And to suggest that Melbourne lost deliberately so one of the their state team mates could win is rediculous.

The reality is that Oakleigh, Waverley or Diamond Valley, do you think the Melbourne coach had any concept that both Oakleigh and Waverley would win allowing DV to get into the playoffs?

Some people stringing some long bows here to suggest all that IMO.

Yes, we all know Tigers too well. Learn to spell. Ridiculous is taught in grade 2

Tigers only have 7 that play so not a long bench.This was 2 weeks ago someone is hurting!!

#305 use a fullstop, that was taught in grade 1. People in glass houses ..............

What a stupid comment to make!

VC

Knox takes on Diamond Valley at Eltham High

Eltham v Hawthorn at Montmorency Secondary

Melbourne and Dandenong await the winners.


VC Res

Whittlesea play Coburg at Montmorency Secondary

Nanawading go against Broadmeadows at Eltham High

Geelong and Werribee will play the winners.

Are we truly this short of decent courts for the highest level of competition in Victorian Junior basketball?

9.40pm games at High Schools during finals where there are less games scheduled anyway. What is going on at the VJBL, why are we being subjected to this madness?

Question: Why aren't the teams that finished higher getting home court advantage?

Another anon^ from hill billy country who has no idea about the rest of the world. Get over yourself anon and come out from under that rock you are hiding in.

'Why would anyone want to drive to Werribee to play when they live in the east. I reckon that would be part of the consideration. When more teams from the west make finals I am sure Werribee will be used'

What kind of moron would say something this stupid?

Answer: One who lives with his cousins on a mountain in the East.

Who walked out of the Melbourne team?

Can someone please answer #640 ^, he's asked plenty of times and gets nothing.

Question Again: Why aren't/shouldn't the teams that finished higher getting home court advantage for their final?

Seriously#617 it is not about your precious little world over in the East. It is about the best stadiums being used for finals and for the best teams which would be VC and VC Res. So if Werribee or some bigger venues in the West are mentioned along with Dandenong or those bigger stadiums in the East it is irrelevant where you come from. Why would you even be in the VJBL with that kind of attitude, seriously?

Troll alert^

Close games and someone said Hawthorn might be a dark horse, well they just might!

VC Men

Knox defeated Diamond Valley 70-63.

Eltham lost to Hawthorn 56-59

VC RES Men

Whittlesea defeated Coburg 74-68

Nunawading defeated Broadmeadows 56-49

Can an upset happen next week, can any one of the favourites Melbourne, Dandenong, Geelong or Werribee lose?

Knox, Hawthorn, Whittlesea and Broadmeadows will give it their best shot and maybe there will be another upset in the making, but it will be tough so I expect close games to continue.

Anyone at the games last night, can shed any light on how they went. maybe how Hawthorn downed Eltham?

DV blew the win.Scores level with 32 seconds left, then lost control!!

I was told this morning Eltham blew a 20+ point lead to lose by 3. If so is it the biggest choke in 18 VC history?

I'm not shocked that Eltham lost after winning the classic

I am shocked at the disgusting way our best juniors are being treated, playing finals at crappy little stadiums with me seating and no decent view of the games, this must be a joke that the VJBL is playing on everyone!

No seating

Agree, I wonder where the preliminary finals will be this week?

Whittlesea v Geelong game should be held at Werribee!

Now, come on, that would make sense!

Draw is up, and........

One game at Knox, the others all at MSAC!

Seems some commons sense applied, Melb v Haw is at Knox

Predictions -

Melbourne v Hawthorn 9.40pm at Knox

Can the Magic cause a huge upset and keep their dark horse tag alive? Tigers have huge presence inside and quality in all positions, can't see them letting this one slip, but you just never quite know.

Dandenong v Knox 9.40pm at MSAC

This could be an absolute cracker of a game and could go either way. Rangers are solid and strong in most positions so the Raiders will look to score heavily if they are to take them out. I think Dandenong could get over the line by a point!

Werribee v Nunawading 9.40pm at MSAC

The Spectres can hurt you when they apply full court pressure and run hard, but the Devils have that big inside presence and an ability to shoot the lights out. If they shoot it well early we can expect the Devils to put the Spectres to sleep in this one.

Geelong v Whittlesea 9.40pm MSAC

Supercats have been the benchmark team in RES for the past few weeks showing versatility and using their strengths to advantage. The Pacers are quick and determined but lack size, if Geelong play to their potential and use the ball as well as they have been they should get over the line by 10 points.

Results

VC has once again proven to be tight scoring defensive minded basketball with no more than a 10 point margin the end result.

Melbourne 53 ended Hawthorn's 43 run into the finals, it must be said the Magic have had a good season and the Tigers were favourites here.

Dandenong 61 over Knox 55 was a tight tussle as expected, but the Rangers proved too solid in the end.

VC RES saw the two power clubs take control and were a cut above the competition this year. Also the scoring was higher as it generally has been, but the winners of the Reserve Prelims could lay claim to being unlucky to miss VC, such is the way they are playing.

Werribee 74 dominated Nunawading 48 and just had too many weapons for the Spectres who fought hard and had a good season with a smaller team that just lacked that size in the end.

Geelong 75 ended the run of Whitlesea 46 in similar fashion, pulling away in the end to make the final in comfort against a tenacious Pacers who gave it all they had but again size hurt them and they rely on a high percentage of outside shots to win because of this.

Not being at all games, was anyone present at any particular game that could share their thoughts or observations? Predictions?

With Melbourne and Dandnong in the final, does that mean the State Centre should hold all VC grand final games?

Written by a parent lol

Maybe in VC Reserve they are power clubs, so what's your point dickhead? Read the post in context and stop making stupid comments or come up with your opinion, but don't criticise people who have theirs without understanding what they are saying!

Anon^ commenting about parents writing on a post, so what you moron, what are you in life, are you either a kid or an adult or a parent, so which are you, oh I know you are a moron of course!

Dandenong and Geelong both have SEABL programs, so how are they not power clubs?

Who cares, they have been in VC consistently over decades, what club are you affiliated with anon^?

So anon^ who do you see as the power clubs, since you know everything?

So, weight of numbers in the junior ranks and most VJBL teams is your criteria for a power club anon^

Why don't you just say that in the first place and we can all accept that your opinion is based on Melbourne clubs who are in the most populated city in the State and have poached and continue to poach from other clubs and do so just to make their ego happy.

Can't argue with that logic now can we!?........

So only VC titles count, well that's your opinion so fine keep it like that! And what's it got to do with Geelong, you have an axe to grind do you anon?
Plenty of power clubs in the West, Werribee, Keilor, Altona, Broadmeadows all with massive numbers and plenty of titles in the past, it's not just about the Eastern clubs.

So anyone have a prediction for the finals?

Draw is up:

First GF game is VC RES at State Centre 8.50pm Crt 3

Geelong take on Werribee in what could be a very close game going on form and previous results. Both teams have dominant bigs and some sure fire outside shooters. If Werribee can hit their shots early and gain confidence in their outside game that is where their strength lies because they run deeper in this position, but if the Supercats get going they are good front runners and it will be hard for the Devils to overtake them late in the game.

Supercats by 8 points.

Second GF game is VC also at State Centre 9.30pm Crt 4

Melbourne have been the bench mark all season, but the Dandenong boys have been building for this and if the way they took care of Knox is any indication they would be confident in this game. Can the Rangers get over the Tiger's famous system 'Shuffle' Offence, that is the question? Melbourne has some height inside too that could cause Rangers a problem, but Dandenong play a solid team defence when they are up and about and can curb this presence, but can they also curb Melbourne's shooters?. This one will again be hard to call and a close encounter is expected, but I am tipping a minor upset here.

Rangers by 4 points.

What are the coach's like and will they have any great influence on results in these games or is it all up to the players and how they turn up on the night I wonder?

No Crystal ball anon, only past meetings to judge by. Both games can go either way. Lets wait to play the blame game until next Saturday.

LOL the blame game in basketball, never heard that one

Two Werribee coaches going up against one another, they should know each others game well so that could be interesting.

Where are courts 3 and 4, is there a vantage point for video at these courts?

@727 lol yes he will always be a Werribee Coach even after 2 seasons at Supercats.

Well that was a big night of championship hoops, with some big highlights and results to match.

Congratulations to Melbourne Tigers 18 men in taking out the Victorian Championship against the Dandenong Rangers 67 to 61.

Also congratulations to Geelong Supercats 18 men defeating Werribee Devils for the Victorian Championship Reserve title 61 to 54.

Didn't see all of the Melb v Dandy game but what I did see it looked like the Tigers system won them the game. They just seemed to know where each other were and played to their strengths while the Rangers went a little to the individual but still pushed the Tigers to the end.

Was there many dunks or highlights in the game^?

Not sure about the Melb Dandy game but Geelong v Werribee had probably eight big dunks during that game!

VC Reserve men's 18 final was an exciting game, but I wouldn't say it was nice to watch or highly skilled because there was a fair bit of pushing and holding going on. It was intense though, probably just a typical final really. Werribee shot it better, but still didn't shoot well, only hit about two 3 pointers all night and that was never going to win them the game. Geelong didn't even get a 3 from memory, so had to rely on fast breaks from turnovers and their inside game to win. It was an up and down game, both teams went zone to try and crowd the key and Geelong looked like they lost their way on offence after a great start, going on individual efforts and forcing play at times. The Devils played the better team offence and were coached better, but Geelong's top three players were better overall and kept them in front. Yes, there were plenty of big dunks in this game, especially from the bigs on both sides, but the average shot taking made it close and low scoring to be honest.

Both of them are about 6'10" and they had a great contest against each other, but the Werribee big had no back up big to fall back on so Geelong took advantage with their 6'6" wing who ran amok. You will see them both in Youth League next season I imagine.

Isn't the big fella from the Tigers at the AIS now?

Not presuming so try not to attack me , but these last few anons watched the game so again not presuming that they may be proud parents of a big.

Is there a stream available now for
Knox v Latrobe u16 champs w?
Melbourne v Dandenong u18 champs b?

Maybe they were keen observers or coaches or a couple of many people who were at the game? There was a big crowd at the State centre last Friday night, not attacking you anon^^ but presume away.

So if someone makes an observation about a shooting guard or a small forward having a good game are they automatically the parent of a player, really?