Will more than likely be kept under wraps like the Mildura coach currently serving a 4 game suspension and Calvin Henry situation being suspended in the last game of the playoffs last season vs LaTrobe.

Big V hide these things all the time.

Big v usually always come out and post a comment about any suspension

If there "star" players/imports are involved it'll get swept under a rug

Pretty poor by big v

http://www.sunraysiadaily.com.au/story/3148358/heat-on-coach/


http://www.milduraindependent.com/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1352:basketball-shock-heat-coach-to-face-nine-charges-at-basketball-victoria-tribunal-hearing&catid=28&Itemid=593

http://www.easymix.com.au/news/49418-madigan-out-for-three-weeks

Another example of Big V being a Bush League, Madigan is a great guy, but this is another example of referees losing control of a game and coach/players suffering.

Fair and squarely the blame must fall on Referee Boss Alan Garroway and CEO Julie Anderson.

Can understand his frustration seeing who one of the refs was. Terrible communicator and arrogant to every coach every game he refs

What I mean is he is respectful to those who officiate the game but due to the continual very poor standard of the refs this season, enough was enough and blew his top. Plus agree Jordan B thinks the sun shines out his arse.

Hence my comment Alan Garroway and Julie Anderson should stand down from their positions.

Of course it is her role. Alan Garroway needs to be made accountable for producing poor quality referee education to get these refs up to speed. He is being paid good money to do the role. He has been under performing for years and she should either give him a rocket or performance manage him out. She turns a blind eye to the boys club the VBRA is.

There are referees doing 3-4 games per weekend which again is squarely again the fault of Big V for allowing too many teams in the competition when not having enough quality resources to make it a quality league.

BigV CEO is away in holidays apparently.

There has been some serious questions raised about Referee welfare including doing double games not only the same night but next day, traveling long distances on saturday and backing it up again with a road trip on a sunday and general lack of attention to rostering.

The problem is now becoming dire.

Lets not turn this into a personal swipe at Referee's and individuals.

They have a difficult job and will always make a few mistakes, you just have to learn to live with it.

Regardless of how you see their officiating there is never an excuse for poor behavior.

HO, all of the above.

The leagues have expanded at a greater rate than they can attract, retain and develop officials.

It is not the officials fault. We need to get off their case and accept there is an issue and cut them some grace.

The issue lies over a multitude of areas and all collaboratively need to accept it and work to a resolution.

I know of at least 4 officials that have left home at 1pm on a saturday and got home 8 or 9pm sunday night after doing back to back saturday and sunday country games 2/3 or 4) all for a few hundred dollars.

No wonder they are burnt out and jaded.

The problems lies back prior to the current CEO taking over. Previous administrators allowed too many teams in and the infrastructure (refereeing resources) could not cope with the demand. When you have over 1100 games in a season that is a lot of ref spots to fill. The VBRA do not have the quantity or quality of referees to service the league. Add in as HO states the senior part of the panel (Panels 1,2 &3) are split with the SEABL and all of a sudden the quality depth disappears and disappears in a hurry. Until more resources are thrown at referees for education, travel, retention and recruitment it is going to continue in the same vain.

And his name is Garraway. If your going to bag the man get his name right. He can only work with the pool of referees and the resources he is given... both unfortunately arent at the required standard to support the size of the current structure of the Big V.

I think there are 6 panels of referees and there are referees on panel 3 who still do juniors... so id say over 2/3rds of the pool do friday nights also. So 3 games friday, a weekend of back to backs and some are doing 7 games in 3 days..... not good from am OH & S perspective

Maybe all clubs / associations have to commit to providing 1 competent ref per 2 teams they have in Big V ? No refs should mean no teams for a club. Can all clubs deliver quality refs ?

Big V definitely sweep things under the rug and don't want their limited quality to be lowered by any means. Including a suspension from Domestic levels. I would be surprised if the Big V didn't over rule the suspension from Domestic games and allowed the player to play in Big V only. League is a joke!!

Alot of coaches are players that have been in the league along time are becoming very disillusioned with the gap between the standard of officiating week to week. Last year we saw an introduction of calling every bit of contact to this year all but dissapearing some weeks. The coaches get forms to evaluate the refs but most have given up even filling them out as they feel they fall on deaf ears.

(Mod: Legally questionable.)

I cannot think of 1 positive game changing thing Julie Anderson has done since she has been CEO. 12mths is well and truly enough time to stamp your mark.

She has failed. Make a change.

No chance Dandy CEO owns the award and to be really honest in the coming months could have the trophy named after him.

Frankston CEO will come good, has made some great headway past 12 months. SEABL season to forget this year but Mens team will be back with vengeance next year. Junior program will improve over next 2-3 years when they attract some decent coaches to keep kids and families around.

Dandy SEABL program made look good by Anderson and Perry's players wanting to play for them. If the CEO was at all involved it would be a ghost house.

Disagree Frankston CEO is in this category, life member DG still owns the mantle.

The reason they don't put report on these things is because they are not transparent.

Just as u transparent as the Referee rankings now. That system has gone massively backwards this year with zero transparency or accountability now.

There is transparency if your related...

That is exactly right.. In right group of friends

What gets me is because there aren't many refs they can ref like shit every game they have and there are no consequences, they just move on to next week

Ignorant comment.

Nobody sets out to officiate poorly but there are different standards and levels of officials just like there are standards of divisions.

From what I've seen of BigV you get about the same level of officiating as there is standard of game...

You won't get NBL std refs on D2 etc.

The facts are, in the Big V in 2005 there were 9 divisions and 91 teams.

In the Big V in 2015 there are 12 divisions and 134 teams. That's an increase in number of divisions by 33%, and an increase in number of teams by 47%.

Wow, that's a huge increase. In the same time SEABL has gone from 2 person to 3 person officiating on both men and women's games.

It's easy to see why resources are stretched.

It's the later I can assure you.

Nobody goes to work wanting to do a bad job.

The other point I'd make is the standard of competition does at times make it hard to officiate given how scrappy it is, sometimes higher standard games are cleaner and easier to officiate.

On referee development can someone explain to me how the VBRA Senior panel rankings will work this year?

I remember a time not that long ago panel rankings were published along with your numerical score from evaluations, no hiding, everyone knew where there were, total transparency.

We seem to have completely thrown out any form of hard measurable evaluation system, so how on earth those rankings and finals appointments are made for SEABL and BigV at seasons end is beyond me.

ZERO transparency and totally at the "discretion" of the leagues.

How did this end up in the Ringwood thread??

"Frankston CEO will come good, has made some great headway past 12 months. SEABL season to forget this year but Mens team will be back with vengeance next year. Junior program will improve over next 2-3 years when they attract some decent coaches to keep kids and families around."

I know of coaches who have followed the Big V guidelines/advice in submitting concerns about referee's standards etc only to be told by the administration they will get the Referee;s Director to contact them directly but still haven't had any contact or response.

Not sure what is failing here but it is disappointing to hear.

I know for a fact ^^^ is true. I have never seen Alan at a Big V game in my 10 plus years involved in the league. no doubt he sits at home with his granny blanket on his knees rocking in front of the fire only coming out for Nationals to stroke his ego.

On ya bike Alan.

Out of curiosity how can the CEO get away with going on holdays mid season?!

Lot of crap being talked, is anyone going to post who Ringwood might might not have at their disposal or what ???

Is the big v CEO on a fixed term contract or permanent ongoing employment?

I would think that surely the members of the league are entitled to know, given the members technically own the league