Don't expect too much guys, Ballarat basketball isn't the most advanced association out there. There will be an interesting game between the two Vic teams this Sunday. Practice game b/w metro and country at Minerdome.

First bulletin is up.
Draw comes from BA, not host.

anyone know who won the VIC Country v Metro game today?

Metro by about 30. They are ahead of country in their prep at the minute. Country have some injury concerns.

Metro are not only well ahead of VC in preparation but they are miles ahead of them in terms of talent/depth...

No NZ.
VIC Metro women and SA Metro men got by far the worst of the draw.
SA Metro women and SA Country men got pretty good draws.

What's so bad about SA Metro boys draw?

Anyone have a link to the draw, the Ballarat Basketball web site is a nightmare?

So what gives? Does anyone know why New Zealand are not coming this year?

Probably no New Zealand, as even though their boys won Bronze at the 16s in Geelong, they couldn't apparently receive the medal. Heard it went to the team that lost to them. So guess that may be one reason. But that is just a guess. If they ever won gold they would have just had to hand it to the runners up anyway. That would just make you all fired up to send a team and play. NOT
Would be a lot of money to come over to be not considered worthy of a medal when its earnt fair and square.

But New Zealand knew that before they began participating in our own NATIONAL championship, it's not like it was a surprise?

As far as I'm concerned Australia has been doing THEM a favour by allowing it to happen.

Should be simple - either they are ALWAYS in, or ALWAYS out. Why should our national championships be held in such low esteem by NZ, when we are doing them the favour to develop their elite players in it?
565, NZ has never been allowed to win medals, mainly because it is the Australian Junior Champs...I highly doubt that is the reason. Ashke seems to be a much more believable reason.

Enough about who isn't coming, let's switch back to who is coming. Any updates from around the country on how teams are shaping up with their preparations? Any practice game results other than the Vic Country v Vic Metro Boys game mentioned already above?

Interestingly if NZ teams win the Aus Country Cup in Albury they get the medals! Maybe that's why they keep coming to this event?

Sa metro beat sa country in boys by maybe 25? Sa country girls beat metro girls by 10 or so.

The draw is up.

http://ballaratbasketball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2015-U18-Kevin-Coombs-Cup-Draw-at-at-11Mar15.pdf

@Sea Eagle - I saw both NSW Country and VIC Metro play at the Big V tournament. I think NSW finished 2-2 and VIC finished 0-4 but both sides play well and look fairly even. I think, however, that although VIC have a deeper 10 man roster, NSW probably have more talent in their starting 5 and that should get them over the line if they are fit enough to play more minutes and stay out of foul trouble. Going to be a cracker of a tournament.

In terms of the draw, it looks set that NSW Country and QLD North (from Pool A) as well as VIC Metro and NSW Metro or WA Metro (from Pool B) to advance to the semi-finals. Pool A looks to be the tougher of the two and they also play 1 extra Pool Game to compensate for NZ's absence.

The game between NSW Country vs QLD North on Day 1 should decide 1st and 2nd in Pool A so will be all important for both sides to be on their game early. Not sure what to expect from QLD North but if Froling and McDowell-White (assuming he is still playing) can play between themselves they will take some stopping. However, they may lack depth in other positions but that opening game will be one not to miss.

Unless they have changed the format this year anon^ they will likely be playing quarter finals first, then if they win will progress through to the semi final game...

I've heard Vic Country are hosting Vic Metro in both boys and girls this weekend. Is it in Ballarat and what times? I am interested in having a bit of a look ahead of nationals.

Sunday in Bendigo

Wish I was able to go watch this. I think WMW will dominate.

Anyone confirm that SA Metro's best big is not playing?

Who is SA metro's best big?

Not sure if we can name names, but I heard on the grapevine that one pulled out and one of the reserves is in?

A lot of the VMW are from the team that was so poor in u16s last year are in the 18s team as bottom age players. Let's hope they can redeem themselves.

There do seem to be a lot of bottom age kids in the VMW team who failed to medal last year. But remember who coached them!

Two were outstanding, the others very poor.

Not the coaches fault.

16 Metro Women underachieved last year and the coach needs to accept a lot of the blame. His coaching left a lot to be desired and so did his attitude.

975 - what are you on about. 16 metro women won the Nationals last year and Country was up there too.

Vic Metro U16 Womens coach was a stress head, out of line, spoke terribly to his players and what do you know - didnt get the best out of them. I wonder why.
The biggest wonder though is how he got re appointed

986, what are YOU on about? We are talking about VIC Metro women underachieving.

You might want to read a whole thread before commenting so you don't make yourself look stupid.

Yep and i thought it was about SA due to the two post below. Chill out Vic simple mistake !!!


'No SA Metro have the two best bigs of their comp playing'

'Who's SA meteo's best bigs ?'

The irony of 025 telling someone else to chill out.

@Sheep - what do you mean?

Vic Country do one or two day camps, mostly players also do NITP/NPP as well. Country teams in general will have logistical issues so they tend to do two day camps but three day camps are an intrusion into school days.

Who won yesterdays games between Vic Country and Vic Metro?

Not New Zealand.

Vic Country ended up playing Bendigo Youth League Men.

So what are our predictions for the Men?

Not New Zealand!

Vic Metro Men will not medal this year. Team is disgusting.

Same with NSW Metro Men. Without their big (Isaac) they will not medal.

NSW Country, Qld North will medal. 3rd... could be any of Vic Metro, NSW Metro, WA Metro, SA Metro, Vic Country I'd say.

Girls pretty wide open too.

Prediction for the Boys:

1. NSW Country
2. QLD North
3. VIC Metro
4. NSW Metro
5. VIC Country
6. WA Metro
7. SA Metro
8. QLD South
9. SA Country
10. ACT
11. Tasmania
12. WA Country
13. Northern Territory

NSW Country will not win. NSW Metro can beat them

What makes you say that?

New Zealand would beat them both.

Vic C v Vic M this sunday at 1.00pm at Ballarat

New Zealand aren't playing, who cares

NZ too scared to come...

Call me crazy but maybe NSW Country are so highly rated because that same group of players won Gold in this age group in U16s

New Zealand are too good to be invited.

It could be relevant, but sometimes the world changes a lot in two years.

The amount of u16 "stars" that are very ordinary u18s is significant.

I hope the country nsw team has taken this into account and picked the best squad, not just the old team.

Theirs to win*

NZ WERE invited - they declined. Fear factor...

Fear? Aussies fear the Hakka! Maybe they declined because they would dominate.

No, that last point makes no sense.

Anyone know who won the U18 VIC Metro v Country game today?

Men and women played, both went to Vic M by around the 10 point mark. Vic Country women and Vic Metro women were missing best two players due to AIS and injury. Vic country men had a lead at half time with their injuries behind them showing they are going to be hard to beat at Nationals but Vic metro steadied and got over them in the end.

Ok, so it's now less than 2 weeks until it all begins in Ballarat. Who are people's tips for top 4 in each?

Men
1st NSW Country
2nd NSW Metro
3rd Vic Metro
4th Qld North

Women
1st Vic Metro
2nd SA Metro
3rd SA Country
4th Vic Country

Is anyone here actually going to watch?

My predictions for the men:

1. QLD North
2. NSW Country
3. VIC Metro
4. SA Metro
5. NSW Metro
6. VIC Country
7. WA Metro
8. QLD South
9. ACT
10. SA Country
11. WA Country
12. Tasmania
13. Northern Territory

Can confirm NSW Country don't have injury concerns lol. Be interested to know how Sea Eagle purports to know that...

Maybe Sea Eagle is a parent of a player who was not selected .... Either way can be reassured that NSW Country are all ready to play.

As for the women, I think the SA teams deserve to be rated, but think the NSW Country girls with significantly different team from 2 years ago just might force their way into semis....

@Anonymous #523229

So you don't end up with egg on your face, it might be wise to check your facts before you (1) start claiming that teams have injury concerns that simply aren't true and (2) start naming individual players.

I have it on good authority that NSWC are all ready to play. Given you are obviously Victorian, I'd be very interested to hear how you come across knowledge of individual players' injuries (that don't actually exist)...

Who to believe - Anonymous or Anonymous?

Mile Cherry is an excellent player, if NSWC have a 5 man to ease his load and they can play him in his true position of 4, they will be hard to defeat.

If NSWC rely on him without support and he gets into foul trouble against big teams such as the VICs then they could be in trouble come finals.

Having said that, NSWC also have very good shooters and small forwards who can get them out of trouble and keep scoreboard pressure on their opponents when the inside game is blocked up.

This makes them similar to VICM in my opinion, as they also have very strong outside presence and can keep the scoreboard ticking over when the shuffle 'hard cuts' are not quite working.

Are games being live streamed?

It's Ballarat!

Of course not.

The finals will probably be live streamed

Doubt it

Remember when the NZ joke was funny?

NZ not coming was never funny, just sad!

Were there any other practice games over the Easter weekend that people can report on. Less than a week until the U18 Tournament begins in Ballarat. Looking forward to it all getting underway.

Why do you think?

Winners-a quick look back.
2014 u20 women- Victoria
2014 u20 men- Victoria
2014 u18 women- Vic metro
2014 u18 men- Vic metro
2014 u16 women's- s.a metro
2014 u16 mens- nsw country
2015 u20 women's- vic metro
2015 u20 mens- vic metro
2015 u18 women's- vic metro, Maley/magbegor... Nsw metro runners up.
2015 u18 mens- nsw country, Glover/cherry... Vic metro runners up.
2015 u16 women's-
2015 u16 mens-

Nsw country women's.^

Nix - Youth League being top is kinda irrelevant isn't it to under 18s?

No, because the best (state team) Under 18s play up into Youth League teams.

So what? The team doesn't have ANY 18/19/20/21 year olds in it? Irrelevant.

Help us out Dad, who are they? I can't spot them.

Maybe the state selectors are looking a bit wider instead of the "old days" when you had to play at Melbourne to get picked?

Ha^

I find it hilarious that Melbourne Tigers Mum/Dad is sooking that politics played a part in Tigers players NOT being selected in a state team!!

No-one questioned Bogut's talent, just his unwillingness to be a team player at that time.

Are you saying the Melbourne girls are comparble to Bogut???

This just gets funnier.

Let the players prove their worth on the court - not long to wait. Just over 2 days til tip off!

Wish all the kids a great week at Nationals, looking forward to watching some competitive games.

Can't wait for Saturday

All you Paul Flynn haters are going to suck royal eggs after these Nationals. His team is going to romp it in. The coaching staff have prepared the girls so well and developed the IQ and skill set of all girls in the squad, when they come back to your clubs and dominate you will only have him to thank. He is a great teacher and communicator who knows how to prepare a state team. Kudos Paul Flynn ;)

Excuse my ignorance but....... Who is Paul Flynn???

Who is Paul Flynn & how of track is your comment following such positive messages ???

He was at Dandenong and I think now at Sandringham, but yeah not sure of connection to Nationals

Paul is Vic Metro U/18G Head Coach

Who cares?!

Good lucy to the Vic Metro girls, and Paul Flynn their coach.

Flynn had nothing to do with either Maley or Sharp going to the AIS, they were already selected before he came into their lives, so if he is taking credit for that as has been suggested then it is not the case.

Nunawading recruited Wynum, Brewster and Pineau from Melbourne (all played in the recent Vic 20 state team) but the last 2 didnt play in the game v Melbourne.

There was a post on here before and after last years 18 nationals about Flynn picking the wrong, possibly having to pick a couple of girls from Tassie if you believe the stories. He won the title, but only just against a spirited Vic Country team.

Looking at SA Country:

U18 Women, have a target on their heads. Big expectations from Paul Salter and his group. The likes of this group being 3rd 2 years ago and with the same calibre of kids expect this group to finish high in the rankings.

U18 Men, let us hope this is Head Coach Mal Penno's last year, plenty of other better coaches coming through the system. These young men have a tough task ahead of them and with 4 under age athletes in the group will be lucky to make it off the bottom under the guidance of Penno.

Wow that's a comment that sounds very much from a parent who's son didn't make the cut.

Not all unfavorable comments are from parents. You have others in and around these teams in various roles.nough said.

Round 1 tomorrow, let's get excited folks!

Funny as!!! you name one SAC coach in the background waiting to move in that would be up to the job. ANSWER NONE !!! Ingham needs to open these positions to include metro as well. Correct though a poor year in terms of player quality, damage was done at U16 level, for many years, not just this one. Penno is more a victim of circumstance. SAC boys maybe should have forfeited this year and played as a group in the Melbourne classic. Its going to be a long week.

LC, you going to these championships or just going to wrote stories from reading the stats?

^In the mens I reckon there might be some Vic worth watching, yet not one mentioned? Hadley is ex-Tas!

LC, great article.

589, like any media, readers should not believe everything they read. A police officer once told me the media NEVER get it 100% right.

Keep bringing on the great articles. I am pretty sure you are getting pretty good information whether you are there not and generating interest and debate is what good articles do.

... or maybe Nix just has no idea...

Game Day!

Pity there's no livestream...

So you guys will just make stuff up based on the stats, and infer you were there?

Maybe a diclaimer should be added to each "story".

Maybe Media Watch cloud do a report about your stories?

I love the work that P&R do promoting junior hoops but some of the heights in the article are plain wrong

Solid game for will white and Harry froling...

Both WMW and Froling had solid games. Miles Cherry, and M Maluach were impressive for NSWC also. Game could have gone either way, wouldn't be surprised to see these two teams meet for Gold.

What's happened with the 18 boys games today ? Any upsets who has been playing well ?

She's a nice kid.

Injuries and big ones, not sure who he was but one of Qld South's big fellas hurt his leg badly in warm up today, I hope he is okay but it didn't look good at all.

Qld North's best player might be out for a while too, he looks like he has hurt his shoulder or elbow. Standing around with his arm in a sling poor bloke.

Could have big implications in the mens as the week rolls on.

Looks like Will Magnay (QLDS) and Will McDowell-white (QLDN) will be out for the week.... Throws the gold medal race wide open now

Does anyone have any info on qld Souths zinita Aokuso ?
Is she bottom age, like 1999 born or younger? Height? Etc.
After putting some good numbers up against one of our best big prospects in hoycard, thought I'd find out more about her... 24 pts, 23 rbds, 3 blks.
Currently Averaging 14 pts, 13.33 rbds, 3 blks after 3 games.

Anyone know results of Mens NS Country V SA Metro ?? Stats down and game should have finished.

Lost by 13!

There was a bee sting incident down the stretch.

Please tell !! That would have been a great match to follow on live stats then !

Who lost ???

NS 79 / SA 63

Stats are here:

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=500190452&c=1-4101-52350-340128-0&pool=1

Should the guys and girls from the centre of excellence standout in terms of skills and stats?

How do they identify talent at that age?

Last night Will McDowell-White came on against VC men and dominated, he looks fine to me no issue with him at all.

QLD Nth will win this championship in the mens without doubt.

W.white a shoe in as starting pg at u19 worlds?
Wilson and dj to backup.

Players labelled 'class of 2016'. Does that mean they are born in 1998?

Are there any good u17 players for next years world champs? Boys and girls
It's hard to tell who's bottom age and top age.
Would love to see heights and d.o.b listed.

Each seems to have a couple of bottom age kids on show with girls and boys sac lboy doing well I think he 9 ? nswc have a few doing well

NSW Country Women just beaten by SA Metro !!! They haven't had a loss yet.

Anyone know tina Aokuso d.o.b?

Great news, I may have to look at the results online myself. Oh no, it is ok, I have you to interpret them here for me.

890 Whats you problem ?

868 - QLDN will enter the finals as deserving favourites but they are by no means shoo-ins. NSW Country lead for most of their match with QLDN and had one of their best players not allowed to take the court because of a farcical ruling about blood on his singlet.

NSW Metro and VIC Metro would also give them a run for their money.

Do you think w.white, h.froling and c.horvat have all but sealed there places at u19 worlds with there performances so far at this tournament?

Would you have William start ahead of Wilson or dj at pg?

What sort of minutes has maley been getting?
Thought she would stand out a bit more on the stat sheet.

Will whites stats so far this tournament.
Averaging
16.33 points
5.83 rebounds
2.83 assists
1 block
61% fg shooting
Averaged Over the course of 6 games. 2 of which he did not play at all.
Why do they do this?

His real avg stats should be....
24.5 points
8.75 rebounds
4.25 assists
1.5 blocks

Maley troll

I have been following the box scores on a few of the sa games. Brad Rathjen from country has posted some impressive numbers including 38 point game! must have some talent! what are the views on his future?

Can some one tell me what's going on with the sporting pulse site ?? No updates or fixtures ??? Poor form

Women's SF

SA Country vs NSW Metro
SA Metro vs VIC Metro

Men's SF

NSW Country vs VIC Metro
NSW Metro vs QLD North

http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-4101-0-0-0&sID=60776

Everything works on live stats.

Vic Metro women the last hope for a Vic Gold Medal After NSW Country take out Vic Metro Men

Via metro vs sa country in the women's final me thinks.
Magbegor vs brook in the post. Great matchup...

Qld North v nsw country more than likely.

may have been likely, but didn't eventuate
All NSW final in the boys

Will and Harry didn't get much help from the other guys this game.
Shooting was horrid.

Go you Country boys!

The level of smart coaching in this tournament was more inconsistent than the officiating!

Has will white grown a couple of inches?
looks high 6'5-6'6.

Dudes! Froling and White stick out like dogs balls against these other players. (In terms of skill)

Watched the women's semi also...
Where has all the talent gone?

Women's bronze game I mean ^

Dudes! If they are both so good why couldn't they make even the Gold Medal game?
You and I must be watching a different tournament

Refreshing for junior men's basketball to see the Vics outside of the medals!

Can't wait for the heads to roll......

Maybe because you need more than 2 players 2 on a team.

Re Vic Basketball. Loose the borders that divide Metro/Country and maybe then we will be back in the medal hunt.

Anyone know the last time a VIC Metro team finished out of the medals? Would have to be ages, methinks.

2010 Terrigal New South Wales Metro
2011 Ulverstone New South Wales Metro
2012 Perth New South Wales Metro
2013 Brisbane Victoria Metro
2014 Canberra Victoria Metro

Troll all you want guys^ the kids do the best they can and every year they are different. The coaching is also different most years and obviously this year NSW are having their turn at the top.

Gloating and putting down the Vic is only going to give them more incentive to improve next time, like other states need that!

Magbegor looks to be the same height as maley. Thought she was supposed to be taller. Moves well though.
Never seen Chelsea brook before. She's had a nice tournament so far.

MALEY!
22 points, 25 rebounds.

Why would you "loose" the borders between metro and country in Victoria when all of the other mainland states have a metro and country stream. Personally I think fingers should be pointed at the messiah from Tasmania and the "impact" he has had on Country Vic basketball, both teams under achieved at these championships. Conspiracy theorists may suggest ulterior motives.... maybe he was the poster wanting them merged.

the comp is fine the way it is. Just needs The nz team to come.

Maley is high 6'1, maybe 186cm. Ezi listed at 6'4... I don't think so.
Chelsea Brook looked slightly taller and she is supposably 6'3.
At best she would be 190cm. The very short end of 6'3.
Do we have other centres like Ezi of the same age/size?
Brook, mills-Norton, Aokuso. How old are these girls?
Hoycard was excellent but to old to make u17s next year. (Too much talent ahead of her for her to make u19)
Is mcspadden the only other with descent height who is bottom age?
annabelle Lindsay for act would make a great pf, pretty sure she was born 98 or older though.

Thought Abel, Cubillo, mole, George and lehmann made good steps towards under17s next year. Simmons obviously wasn't there, nor was fuiava.

NSW Country Boys - what a team.

For player Heights

Check out the Seabl media guide for all BA's CoE players

http://www.seabl.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/BA_CoE.pdf

it has
Maley 187cm 1998
Magbegor 191cm 1999

also, Seabl media guide for hobart has 4 of Tasmania's

http://www.seabl.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Hobart.pdf

Mills-Norton 192cm 1998
Mole 181cm 1999

all the other heights will be in the U18 tournament guide sold daily at the venue. who has a copy??? Please inform on;

Pizzey
Brook
Aokuso
Hoycard
Mcspadden


also on the mens side what the heights & YOB of

Colina VICM (looks to be about 6'10)
Pupavac VICC
Johns VICC
Hurse VICC
Ferguson WA

The programs and media guides are of no value whatsoever with regards to height.

Some girls want to be seen as being taller as they get how numskulls will read these things and decide it is important to their ability to play for Australia.

Given you can disreguard the published heights:

Macbebor is two inches taller than Pizzey, who is at least an inch taller than Maley.

Maley was the standout in the GF. If she played for any one of the 4 stronger teams, they would win the tournament.

Next best in the GF was Rocci. Did her job very very well.

Colina VICM (looks to be about 6'10)
Pupavac VICC
Johns VICC
Hurse VICC
Ferguson WA

Johns is 6'6" bottom age
Colina is 6'10" also bottom age
Hurse is 6'9" top age
Pupavac is 6'10" top age
Ferguson is 6'11" top age
Froling is 6'10" top age
Cherry is 6'8 & 1/2" top age

LC, unfortunately George had a very very poor GF and didn't "come up big".

All tournament team has 3 centers, WTF? Will Mc-White not in that starting 5 has to be a joke!

Who are the 1999 players that stood out?

You would have to go through and look at the stats for the 1999 born kids and see who stood up against the older kids. How is the selection made for the Aus 17 team ? Does any one know the process.

Stats are next to meaningless.

For example, most of the pool games are against such poor opposition that racking up a heap of points is of no value.

Perhaps stats from games between top 4 teams may be of some value, but even that is a stretch.

Surely the best kids from each state born 99 would have been playing at Nationals. Wouldn't be that hard to work out how they played each State would have only had a few girls and boys.

Women's team could be more than 50% from 2000.

Very talented in comparison.

Potential u17 2016 women's players who performed ok this tournament who are 1999 born and younger. Many others....But I wasn't certain of age.

5'7 g Rebecca Abel
5'3 g Abby Cubillo
5'7 g najvada George
5'7 g Hannah lehmann
5'9 g Cassidy Anderson
5'9 g Mia Satie
5'10 g callie Bourne
5'11 g/f Taylor mole
5'11 g/f Cassidy McLean
6'0 g/f Kiera Rowe
6'0 f Eryn fisher
6'1 f Brenna mckay
6'3 f Lara mcspadden
6'3 f Ezi magbegor

Girls expected to make u17 but weren't there..
5'10 g/f jasmine simmons
5'10 g/f Jayden Fuiava

Girls that Could make nice additions but I believe are 98 born. Might be wrong...
Zitina Aokuso, Chelsea brook, Lauren mills Norton, annabelle Lindsay, monique andriulo, bree Delaney, Amy atwell, bianca Thacker, carleigh Patrick, Ellie Collins, Rebecca pizzey, Courtenay wragg, elizajane loader, Madison Goddard, Rachael hines, Briana bailey, Nicola Matthews etc etc etc.

So Simmons & Magbebor are the certainties, and petentail starters.

Look to 2000 for the rest pf the starters.

OK any thoughts with the boys I would have thought there would have been less 1999 boys than girls at Nationals ?

Who are the 2000 girls?

Boys 1999 and younger

Guards
Rowse, white, Elkaz, bines
Forwards
Fullarton, garang, maluach
Centres
No idea

Anyone have the guide from the tournament?

I'm trying to understand how these teams can be announced before the under 18s are even played from what was posted there was some out standing players including both top and bottom age players. How can the under 19s be named before this competition has even been played.

2000 girls

Lucy Cochrane
Emiliy Simons
Meila Goodchild
Jessica McDowell-White

IMO Very few kids from the tournament are close to making U19s. The ones that are were already there. If a kid had a breakout tourney and had international potential I assume they would them to the camp.

18s were just played...
The u16s will be the tournament to watch. We should get a better idea on who will make the u17 aussie squads for 2016.

So what did we all think about the results and the tournament?

Did every one finish where tey were expected or were there some over achievers?

Was not there so would like to get an understanding? How was the talent of athletes and coaches?

Is it correct that the best top age (Born 1998) players from the tournament will form the 2017 U19 World Champs team? A lot of potential there from what I saw

Vic metro.

Who were some of the standouts from the opposing sides born 1999?

Sa would have sent the most

SA had the most what???

Axam, lehmann, magbegor, McLean, mcspadden, Rowe, Simmons.
Do you think these girls will be automatic picks for u17 teams because they go to the adc?

Can anyone tell me why NSW Country was carrying around a rock and shovel during the tournament? Did I miss the joke?

429, why should we watch the 16s to see the players who may make u17s for next year?

Most of the players will be those who are bottom age 18s.

I couldn't imagine if they are looking at Aus under 17's why they would be mostly 2000 ?, when you would have a very strong group of 1999 ???

U16
VICTORIA COUNTRY WOMEN'S TEAM
Jazmin Shelley (Moe)
Ella Ogier (Shepparton)
Jessie Rennie (Bendigo)
Inika Hodgson (Traralgon)
Eve Braslis (Bellarine)
Ahlise Hurst (Mildura)
Chelsea D’Angelo (Traralgon)
Agnes Emma-Nnopu (Bellarine)
Stephanie Gorman (Wodonga)
Abby Sutherland (Hamilton)

Emergencies
Jordie McAuliffe (Horsham)
Chloe Storer (Wangaratta)
Danielle O’Toole (Bendigo)
Grace Egan (Shepparton)
Keely Hare (Maryborough)


VICTORIAN METRO WOMEN’S TEAM
Cassidy Gould (Altona)
Eleanor Leydin (Altona)
Maddi Puli (Werribee)
Emma Nankervis (Frankston)
Georgia Cleary (Eltham)
Last Tear Poa (Dandenong)
Isobel Anstey (Sandringham)
Keeley Frawley (Sandringham)
Lucy Cochrane (Sandringham)
Lana Hollingsworth (Sandringham)

Emergencies
Isis Lopes (Knox)
Ruby Shepherd (Knox)
Sophia Locandro (Dandenong)
Abbey Ellis (Bulleen)
Kate Tanner (Nunawading)


2015 U16 COUNTRY MEN’S TEAM
Reid Nanscawen (Southern Peninsula)
Jay Rantall (Warrnambool)
Jai Nanscawen (Southern Peninsula)
Seb McArdle (Bendigo)
Noah Gown (Warragul)
Nick Grantham (Macedon)
Steve Cummings (Southern Peninsula)
Matt Cummings (Southern Peninsula)
Shawn Clarke (Mildura)
Tom Schacht (Maffra)

Emergencies
Ryan Sarkady (Shepparton)
Liam Herbert (Warrnambool)
Brock Smith (Moe)
Ben Searle (Geelong)
Fraser Bell (Bendigo)


VICTORIA METRO MEN’S TEAM
Corey Battistin (Werribee)
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I'm sorry what does the above have to do with this post about u/18-17's

#525463 there were other girls at the ADC, one from 2000 who was by all accounts a standout.

Perso?

Lots of talk about the girls what about the boys

Heaven forbid we talk about the girls side of things for too long.

Lucy Cochrane was the 2000 girl that attended this year's ADC. 6' 4" 14yo from Vic Metro.

She was the only 2000 born on the women's side at the ADC, I believe there were a few boys who would be eligible for the u17 teams.

Is Lucy really that tall?
Is Inika Hodgson the sister of matt Hodgson?
Is Isobel Anstey the daughter of chris anstey?
Is Austin bradtke the son of mark bradtke?

I wonder how big these guys are^?

Yes
Who knows
Yes
Yes

Anyone know if zitina Aokuso or Chelsea brook are 1999?
Could do with a descent backup centre to magbegor next year.
Lots of guards but not much quality forwards.
Mcspadden and pizzey the only other well known 1999 bigs?

No & no.

8 girls in last years u16 GF were 2000 born so I think they'll be pretty relevant to the u17 group. The winners had 5 bottom age.

Probably a handful of 2000 boys in contention is think.

Pizzey is about the same height and started ahead of Magbegor so thats one
and as mentioned Lucy Cochrane 6'4

2000 Boys
Dent
Dalton
Matthews-Hampton
Froling
Were junior camp invitees and should have a legit shot at u17 Worlds. Maluach, Nanscawen, could make cases?
99s from January camp
Lutula
Garang
Fullarton
Bines
Johns
O'Carroll
Elkaz
Rauch and Zunic as the 99's on the National Champs might get a look?

Isn't isaac white 99?

Nope - Isaac is 1998

Why is losing the borders between Vic Metro/Country being disregarded. I went to U20s and the one Victorian Team seemed to work, well they got gold so something worked.

Why keep the borders between states?

4.25 million people live in Melbourne Metro.
1.60 million people live combined in Country Victoria.

I can see both points of view. We need to give country kids opportunities that many would not get if swallowed up into combined teams.

I think take Metro back to just being Albert Park

Truth - not this year. Couldn't even field one...

anon#677 the comment was a medal chance, all Vic teams made it to quarter finals, but the program got it a bit wrong this year and things just didn't go according to plan from what I saw. Coaching structures and the whole system of play was off, confidence of the kids was down and poor preparation all had a hand in their demise.

Always next year as they say in the classics

anonymous#680 there in lies the problem, we are too fixated by results to let the kids just go out and play. we are too worried about losing to let them loose so we sit back and ponder what can be done to improve our little patch but forget that what is important is to develop kids for the futue.

708, this is an U18 National Championships thread incase you didn't know. LOL "just let the kids go out and play"

I didn't see too many scouts taking an interest in the 11v12 game, nor would they.

711 has no idea about anything!

714, lol. You are funny. Prove it :)

Why would you merge Metro and Country? Didn't Vic Metro win this years U18's but a good margin?

711 talking about scouts, like that is all the nationals is about, get real. You have no clue, there point proven!