Running summer comps is problematic unless ALL venues are well insulated and have good aircon.

one of the few common sense policies from BSA that provides clear guidelines and practices to be followed.

delaying games by 15 minutes throws the night in to chaos

perhaps we should be talking about suitable facility acquisition whereby all venues are air-conditioned.

The tin sheds need to go, not the Heat Policy

I sympathise with you guys, S.A. is a very hot state, and we are probably in for a hot late February into March. Regardless of where in Australia the basketball stadium is, I agree wholeheartedly that the problem needs to be addressed, not the symptom!

That means, money being spent on stadiums to improve heat extraction and introduce cooling either by fans or air conditioning systems.

I would like to see that this is introduced in policy at B.A. level down to Association level for all states, but I am dreaming there I think...

Air conditioning is a must, the same crappy stadiums I played in during the 80's haven't changed.
To rub it in is when it's not too hot on training days and then you miss out playing on the weekend!
I do think though that on Saturday mornings it doesn't heat up until later and can't see why the 8.30 game can't move to 8.00, 9.30 to 9.00 etc and at least play to 11.00AM

For the life of me I cannot see why wayville and Pasadena did not have air conditioning included when they were built. And if morphett vale and port adelaide had air con put on the priority list then it wouldn't be a problem. But I suppose if they can't even stop some leaks in the roof then what are the chances of being able to stay cool.

It is not only the cost of installing the air conditioning and appropriate insulation to make it efficient, it is the ongoing running costs that also have to be factored in. SA is currently one of the dearest states for electricity charges and someone will have to cover the cost - guess who?

@Ushiro, your point about the ongoing costs of running a stadium with cooling is valid, however I believe it is an excuse and one used poorly by Associations and councils for some time.

Options for cooling a stadium with lower or reduced running costs include:

1. Ensuring sufficient and efficient extraction points to remove hot air.

2. 'Big Ass Fans' installed that are super efficient, low cost to run and move mountains of air (if they work at the Brisbane stadium they will work anywhere)!

3. Solar panels installed to reduce electricity bills and running costs.

Just some ideas that come to mind, so while you have mentioned running costs, and this is a valid point, these days if common sense and due diligence is applied I'm afraid your argument may not be so strong...

It costs to move the games and lost revenue so that should cover the intermittent use under strict guidelines

I suggest a few of the Anons have a good look at Sports Medicine Australia guidelines http://sma.org.au/resources-advice/policies-guidelines/hot-weather/ and have a real good look at sections that deal with indoor locations and material relevant to young players. Having dealt with youth cricket and heat and seen players collapse it is a serious issue. Moving times may work but air movement in indoor stadiums and humidity are important -
" A hot indoor
venue or an outside venue without shade cannot be considered an acceptable
environment."

Have a look at thermal comfort site on BOM website http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS65004.shtml#notes

Wet bulb temperatures are just for outdoors. Taking Wet bulb temperatures indoors would show humidity levels >50% which would induce real thermal stress.

http://www.bom.gov.au/info/thermal_stress/

Good on BSA for at least having a real go at a manageable policy. Although I would forget the need to refer to the Advertiser and Sunday Mail for forcasts. I haven't bought either of those rags for 20 years. Just use the BOM information.

@Green45 makes the most valid point of all, apparently the importance of safety is lost on some.

Remember the kids and players running around in stifling conditions, plus the officials who wear more clothing than players do and suffer just as much?

This is the reality of risk, maybe more important overall, than some other issues we would like addressed...

Oh, if you are cold wear a jumper mate, much easier to solve than suffering in excessive heat, cheers..

620, BSA employee no. but I do work in the manufacturing sector where things are currently tough, retrenchments are on the cards, we are being limited in our personal phone use, social media, heaven forbid HOOP SA, where they are looking to cut overheads to help the business and save jobs. guys on factory floor have decided to keep the expensive coffee machine which costs about .81c a cup instead of making their own, with company supplied Maccona or Nescafe coffee, milk supplied, sugar supplied which would cost .25c a cup they feel they are entitled to their right of a coffee machine I see that .56c difference in each coffee cup as potentially a saving of one job. ERGO I see BSA being fiscally responsible better than splashing money on air cons in stadiums that do not warrant it, I'd rather see money spent in other areas. you all don't see that the games are replayed in majority of cases so the money lost last Saturday will be made up on the 22/2 when those games are played again, disruption yes. as Malcolm Fraser said, life wasn't made to be easy and the day we all agree with something is the day the world may end. better get off the internet or I will be drinking coffee at home and not on my employers dime.

"A few years ago BSA had the opportunity to aircon Pasadena for $15K with the school and Sturt paying the rest.

But BSA decided to sit on there $1M in the bank and have lost approx $10k per year in lost revenue from social and district games each year.

Maybe time to review BSA personnel rather than a policy that has clear guidelines."

Return on investment is key. Net present value, accounting rate of return, straight line, internal rate of return are methodologies that I'm sure BSA would be employing to prioritise and justify investment decisions of stakeholder funds.

I assume BSA like, all organisations, have an investment assessment process ratified by the Board to consider the ROI of such investments, balanced with other competing priorities.

To me it seems not out of the realms of fairness for BSA to make a statement on what would appear to be a clearcut investment decision to have been foregone. BSA serves its stakeholders and need to make a statement or present a policy on its investment decision making frameworks. I look forward to reviewing it.

A 12.30PM game being played on a 'legal' 34 degree day will in most cases be in a hotter stadium at match time than an 8.30 or 9.30 AM game played on a 38 degree day. Those first 2-3 timeslots on a Saturday morning could be played unless it is after 3-4 days over 36-38 etc Most mornings lately it has been lucky to reach 20 at 8.30am despite a Max over 35.
The waiting to Saturday morning's Tiser bit is ridiculous, suppose it is one way to increase that rags circulation. Use the BOM website on the friday night or even the TV stations weather during the Friday 6.00 news.

749 thank you for your paranoia and your lack of empathy for those in the manufacturing sector I work north of grand junction road and our industry is heavily reliant on car, mining and submarine industries and guess what one is closing, one is downsizing and one who knows what is in store for that. my tangent are real, you do need to be fiscally responsible, nearing retirement age I've seen DW&MBA build Apollo and didn't manage that well till the concerts they had and the national league kicked off a decade after it was built. I've seen BASA buy Athol Park then sell it to just pay the interest only debt on the Powerhouse, which had million dollar naming rights. they went belly up. I've seen eddie groves try to own two nbl clubs and run a business whilst being fiscally irresponsible and guess where he ended up? Just saying due diligence needs to be done on spending money on aging stadiums I'd rather money in the bank and the sport continue, rather than splurge money around like there is no tomorrow and follow the rest into the bankruptcy. Again thank you for your empathy due to the plight of the manufacturing sector here in SA where the employment rate is the highest in the nation and is only about to get worse as SANTOS, ASC, Holdens continue to shed jobs. Maybe IF I worked for BSA my future maybe a bit more rosy and I don't look for the pink slip every Monday morning.

Ummm, I worked at Starplex for years and the air con ran from 7 in the morning to 10 at night. At no point did the general manager poke his head in and say "Hey guys, last electric bill was a bit high, turn it off for a bit". I'm pretty sure operating costs won't send the competition bankrupt.

Can the games, can the make up games and even up the number of games in D1 and D2 by taking game results away from centrals for round 4 - every one gets a 0 or 2 pts for a draw. No point in advantaging one club over the others just because they have air conditioning.