Didn't notice any different both useless

Both nice guys but WAY out of their depth at this level.

I disagree.

At least one of them had some good pictures in social media that his u16 players were able to access.

I think its a bit strange that the SAC office put in place the north/south label for their development officers 12 months ago and now they have taken that label away!
Does that mean it was a bad decision to even give them that label in the first place!
Anyone going to take responsibility for that silly decision in the first place! Knowing SAC's history the people in power will do nothing!
Seems very strange to go with the north/south title then just drop it all of a sudden, what has happened for them to make this decision???

Why don't you just ring them and ask them instead of speculating anonymously on a forum? If you're too time poor to ring, why not send an email. I believe the contact emails are on the website. Anonymous speculation on a forum seams like the least efficient way to get an answer to your question.

Does David Ingham have any involvement in Country? I notice he is mentioned on their website but you never see him in the country? I assume he runs these DO's and organizes what work they carry out, but he doesn't travel out of the metropolitian area himself? Very unusual set up.

No one in Metro sees him either.

Office boy who does NITP and despite promises has never bothered to go out on Friday nights to watch anything other than his own son.

What is the latest with the BSA DO position that Vicky Valk held? Seems like every man and their dog has jumped off BSA in recent times!

Seems like a lot of the 'great new ideas that the BSA CEO and the SAC CEO bought in 12 months have fallen over! The metro DO and country north/south titles are all gone! Looks like a certain two people in charge of both organisations need to answer some questions as the decisions they are making clearly are not working for either organisation!

Easy awnser, stuart mac at SAC has no clue and will run them into the ground. As for sam, don't know the guy pulling the strings but it wouldn't take much to get a better pecking order than country.

I agree 100% with the above post and its sad for me to say this as I'm very passionate about country basketball!
The beginning of the end was when the President and the country council appointed the CEO!
The CEO is not the only person that needs to go, keep going with the President and half the country council who have too many conflicts of interests to be running a organisation professionally!
They way things are currently going we will all be saying 'RIP SA Country Basketball' very soon! And that day will be a very sad day for basketball in this state and for all the passionate people in the country who love the game!

Hypothetically if 'SA Country Basketball' did break down and cease to exist what would that mean?

Local Country Associations run competitions in their local area, BSA employ a State Referee Development Manager who would continue to support local Country associations, same with High Performance.

State teams would be taken on by Basketball SA same as Metro teams.

Local Associations could get together and run a Country Championship themselves if they wanted to.

Am I missing something?

Let's get some fresh blood on the SAC council - if you 'love ' country basketball so much I'm sure your association will nominate you and then you can implement the changes needed for the improvement of SAC

Great post 169
Unfortunately the council seem to be unmovable due to the way the constitution is written.
I think most country associations do not get to know when or who is their nominated rep is due to secrecy

Imagine BSA running Country basketball -they can't even manage the metro comp ! H

287, compared to the state of SA Country admin and basketball operations, BSA looks positively awesome. Bring it on.

SAC have some big issues currently that need to be addressed by their members. I would say a vote of no confidence in the current council and president are on the cards.

If this meeting between some of the country associations to discuss affiliating directly with BSA takes place will the members of these associations be invited or will it only be for actual commitee members of these country associations!
i think holding a 'discussion meeting' during one of the future carnivals that are held in the country areas would be a great idea.
Invite all players, coaches and parents to attend to get some discussion/feedback on potential options for associations who have no confidence in the current SAC office/ council and what options there are for these associations going forward!

What are the big issues facing SAC ? All I'm hearing is some previous employees doing their best to destabilize SAC with misinformation and lies . We finally have some strong leadership and planning within SAC ,so maybe now the days of jobs for the boys is over - is that what the problem is ??

I am fairly confident SAC don't need anyone to "destabilize" them. They do a good enough job of that on their own.

This all sounds like some people do not want SAC to suceed, could it be because they used to work for them and now they don't, no would not be that surely, how can anybody that did such a bad job for so long then turn around and bag SAC. that just would not happen would it.

Or maybe there is information out there that not everyone is privy to, maybe there is substance in it or maybe not.

We will have to wait and see how things pan out, but making stupid posts on this web site because you got the flick or you do not like SAC for whatever reason probably does not help.

Put posts on here that are meaningful or do not post at all

522, your last sentence is incredibly relevant. Maybe you should have taken notice of it yourself.

523, you would be one of the idiots i am actually talking about

Ha ha funny stuff, obviously someone has hit a raw nerve with someone from sac. It's hilarious when country people start to bag and turn on each other like this.
Just sit back and enjoy!

What are you protecting 530 - you trying to justify your own shakey position maybe!!

#522 you are way off track mate.

Sad for all the coaches , team managers , players , parents and SAC about to head off to Albury and SCC that a very small minority of bitter and twisted people continue to spread lies to attempt to discredit SAC. Just move on and accept that your own selfishness and bias has left you on the outer .

522, you have absolutely no idea what you are on about.

You are obviously very new to SA Country basketball and don't really understand. Good luck with it champ, let us know how it all pans out!

It is fair to say this post like most has gotten off topic to some degree. The SAC Development officers are not an issue nor a "make or break" deal for anyone. What they do and how well they do it is debatable and who supervises them is also questionable, but certainly not life changing for the average country player. Those that have any talent will align themselves with a district club to progress their skillbase and further develop their overall game.

If the real issue is how SAC is run and what value affiliation gives members, then perhaps that should be dircted in a letter rather than put on a forum for open criticism by anyone who is not happy. Talk to your local president and put your issue forward. I don't know Stewart McDonald but I am sure he will listen and act on any criticism or issues you may have with SAC.

As far as all of the above posts, there is nothing that beats a good conspiracy theory or the paranoia of some of people.

Sorry 589 , whilst you are correct with the majority of your post , you need to realise SAC is constantly under attack by a small group of people who have rightly been left on the outer .

Under attack! We don't live in the middle east, grow up! From the above posts I domy see anyone being threatened or anything of a defamatory nature.
If what has been posted is BS then those that have posted comments you don't agree with will look like idiots.

The more stupid comments posted like this just adds fuel to the fire.

Good luck to the country teams who leave for Albury tomorrow! Let's hope they bring back more then the 4 trophies they won last year!
Although with the below standard of competition in Albury any thing less would have to be viewed as a failure!!

Just spotted the Rojo here in Albury. He is one smooth dressed cat!

Joke