No basket, but free throws should be awarded.

And1, don't give the defence that much advantage, it's not in the spirit of the game I say... Player with the ball is still trying to score, so nothing changes IMO.

It depends how blatant the travel is.

If it's just an extended gather step with another two steps, you will generally get an And 1, which to me is in the spirit of the game.

i reckon waved away is correct. can't allow a violation to be used as an advantage.

So, anon #917, you don't like my opinion on the issue, that's fine as I am not saying that it the correct call.

Nor is it what would normally be called, perhaps, as it depends on so many factors.

I am expressing what I believe to be in the spirit of the game and taking away the blatant foul by rewarding the player who is playing the ball is one way of doing this.

But what is you opinion on fouling somone trying to do a lay-up, is it okay to do so...? If so, then at what point do you stop a game because it is getting out of hand, some official you would make, eh??

#912, not 917..

there is a valid point to reward the spirit of the game and award the duece if the travel is subtle

Correct, if the foul is there, why not call it, my point is that if the ball player is trying to score and the defender is just fouling why give that player incentive to do so without consequence of no additional score?

It is a scoring game, not a tackling game. Doesn't matter if the foul is soft or hard, as long as it isn't flagrantly excessive or dangerous, just my opinion anyways...

http://www.fiba.com/downloads/Rules/2014/FIBAOfficialInterpretations2014_yellow.pdf

25-5 covers the exact situation discussed. No basket, two free-throws.

I believe that once the travel occurs the play would be dead. therefore the basket wouldn't count but as they were in the motion of shooting then the free throws would be awarded, also I don't think there is an "Advantage rule" in basketball?

Referees must seek to enforce the rules that apply in any given situation, whether or not this conforms to everyone's personal idea of 'common sense'.

A foul cannot cause a travel. If a player is fouled in the act of shooting, then the inadvertent extra step has no bearing on the play - and 1 on a made basket, or two shots on a miss.

Shayno, pretty sure there is an advantage rule in basketball. This comes in if a player deliberately fouls to stop a score. An umpire can call an unsportsman foul or let play continue if a score is imminent.

Rule clarification is one thing. I think the OP has an answer to that. The rest is a bit of opinion and expression, not to get too hung up about rules, but they have been known to be interpreted in various ways by officials, coaches and players alike...

"Rule should be changed then!"
Why? Can a player get fouled at one end of the court, then run all the way to the other end and score, and have the basket count? Of course not, that would be ridiculous. So where do you draw the line? The rule makes perfect sense.

Yeah the rule makes sense. While you want to see the game free flowing both teams are playing by and making decisions based on the rules. It is good strategy to foul a player going to the basket and stop a layup. If they can take an extra step to square up and get an and 1 all this would do is encourage hard fouls to make sure there's no way they are getting a shot up...

"the official shall not seek to interrupt"

man thats complex wording but I stand by my interpretation of the rules that there is no advantage rule as such.


The rule interprets it as "incidental personal contact" therefore no foul would of been called unlike in AFL, if the advantage rule was in effect then it could be called back but in bball u can't call the play back.

My opinion only though but damn its getting more complex to just "put the ball in the damn basket" these days