
Anonymous
Years ago
Lightning need to sack their coach
Moule needs to go, players aren't playing for him and structure very one dimensional
Anonymous
Years ago
Moule needs to go, players aren't playing for him and structure very one dimensional
Already !!!!!
Who is going to want to coach them ????
yes it looked like they were playing without a coach. How did he get this job anyway ?
Should be plenty of coaches who'd love to have a crack. Loads of talent on that Lightning roster. The only way is up, surely.
Too many redundant pieces. And be defenders.oils to be too many players looking for their own shot and not enough passing. How Hodges who isnshooting 55% for the season isn't getting more shots is amazing.
annon
Years ago
Anyone who knows who Moule is knows he can coach. Look at his history at Bendigo womens and Sturt without their star import to within 2 points in the ABL final, when written off early in the season. Perhaps the players need to work harder and the mix is wrong. Perhaps players need to get their butts in to gear and work at it.
It shows incompetence when your handing the reigns to your players to run their own training session after only half a dozen rounds as mentioned today on the call.
Greg
Years ago
He's a credentiald coach.
Looks to me the players aren't playing for one another more like it.
Faris seems to be a bit of a flop, shame as being referred to from Kelsey Griffin.
"Another Marino yes man"
Doesn't that go without saying? Anything but a yes man wouldn't get the gig in the first place would they?
Who in the past have been yes men?
Buckle???
Vaulk???
Dickle???
anyone who played Marino extensive minutes and deprived Lightning of a good point guard. Now you answer who.
Anon
Years ago
Dad has handed in the license. Let's hope the Lightning are under new ownership next year.
Suppose Tom Maher was doing the same with organising her to finish the Olympics in the top 10 in scoring.
ANON
Years ago
Maybe some players in the team need to be able to follow an instruction. Seen he told them to go into zone and then had to call another timeout to tell tham again as they hadn't done it. sounds like dumb players to me.
annon
Years ago
Agree, many of the playing group do not seem to be team players or have good court vision and IQ. Some a one diminutional (love the shooting - hate the defence) weaknesses in their game being showed up and the wrong dynamics. Not much a coach can do about it except keep plugging away at them but if that is the team he has been given at this level they will not achieve what he could with a better team.
He has lost the playing group. if he ever had them.
While Marino is there, i don't think you can ever have a "playing group". that group revolves around the one player - she owns that team
ANON
Years ago
On paper the team looks really quite competitive so I am not sure what is going on. People on here were saying Langford was a potential opal but she is hardly playing?? Faris is WNBA player Foley proven player and of course Hodges who is a star. Put in two 196 cm players in Bunton and Mijovic you would think better results than what is happening.
meggsie
Years ago
i think if chris lucas comes up short with the fire this year with the squad he currently has he MAY be under a little pressure to keep his job?.he is a good coach who knows the league inside out and knows what junior talent is available. go for him go for andy simmons, david ingham. go local lightning it is right in your back yard.
Andy Simmons is funny, and then you said Dave Ingham and I almost died laughing.
meggsie
Years ago
look outside the square because at the moment , lightning are a long way behind the league real pity . proud club yes they were .
Outside the square??? What does that even mean. Just name people who have no real chance of being any good but are your mates?
meggsie
Years ago
lucas pretty good track record yes , simmons how many titles with forrestville plenty, ingham nbl finals coach nbl championship player. these guys are no good ha !
annon
Years ago
Langford is Opals material but nursing and injury at the moment and had her sitters wedding to attend last week. If some of the other players played with her intensity it may well be a different season for the team, but some are not putting in the effort necessary at this level.
Lucas obviously would be a good coach, but I will bite on the other suggestions.
Simmons has been good when he can out spend everyone at ABA level. But he wouldn't be in that position and the only time he has coached girl (at junior level) they under-performed at classics finishing outside the top 8, and played zone all year so his players developed so little they lost the final by 20.
Ingham has been let go from Brisbane, Perth and Sydney for various reasons as well as other international coaching positions. Who can tell if he really can coach. From what is being heard out of the NITP program, not many people have much positive to say about his coaching.
!
Years ago
wnbl season is very tight and possibly the best talent ever. No team will get a 90% winning result - most top 4 teams will go 70% if that. Rather get the bad results out the way with early - Lightning have excellent players and coaching panel - far from finished.
I don't think we'll see a Bendigo 22-2 season for a LONG time..
The players Adelaide has and their ability, yes they should be higher, but at the same time the league is incredibly even, nobody is guaranteed a win.
Most likely a chemistry issue and just needing more time together. Could be a team where if they were all together for a second season they would be much better, who knows.
Sacking Moule is most certainly NOT the right way to go about it.
David Ingham??? His only credentials is as a senior coach who has been sacked half a dozen times! Has been a junior coach for a year with no positive feedback to speak of! Why do you think Vicki quit!
281, I guess only Vicki knows why she quit, unless you'd care to enlighten us. Just rumour mongering is what you're doing.
Remember that Vicki is a championship winning coach at National level and that David has never been in that position!
annon
Years ago
Survey parents anonymously of those in NITP or State and see what they have to say.
As a parent of a child in NITP I would side with Vicki, she always showed passion and was extremely knowledgeable. As an outsider you would have assumed Vicki was the head coach not David!
Harry Hackrein
Years ago
Experienced coach. Well credentialed and those that have never coached want him gone.
I can never figure that out
Phobos 32
Years ago
I have coached with him, he also coached my daughter and easily worst coach she had. Nice guy cant deny that but not a head coaches bum.
ANON
Years ago
"Langford is Opals material but nursing and injury at the moment and had her sitters wedding to attend last week. If some of the other players played with her intensity it may well be a different season for the team, but some are not putting in the effort necessary at this level"
OMG Thanks Mum for the comments
Anonymous
Years ago
ANON - it is not her mum. Do not make assumptions, no relation. If you watched the games and knew all the players and coaches history and had followed their careers you would also see what is going on. Obviously you have not.
Poor display from Adelaide tonight, Bendigo let go a bit in the third, should have won by 30+.
Don't know whats up with Adelaide, just can't seem to gel together or what.
Faris has been a big flop so far.
Anonymous
Years ago
Interesting that both the Lightning and Sixers are struggling.
Does anyone know if they still share the same admin ?
Do they share the same services such as conditioning coaches, gym, nutritional advice and so on ?
Both are looking lethargic and not running well. Just curious..
I hate the way the coach has them playing so well for the first half / three quarters of games, and then changes his plan and tells them to choke up and lose the plot down the stretch. He needs to stop doing that. Looking from the outside it's pretty obvious.
Maybe a specialist 4th quarter coach needs to be employed. One who can just step in and replace Moule, and tell the players "hey just do what you did in the first half and what we talked about in the pre game tactical session"
Hell even I could do that.
They were down by 22 points in the first quarter last night.
Was Bunton hurt last night? She played 2.47 minutes.
On paper they have the 3rd best post player rotation (behind Tville and Bendigo). Although everyone except Hodges hasn't played to expectations. They just get zero from their guards. It appears teams just leave Foley and Marino open.
Harry Hackrein
Years ago
"and tells them to choke up and lose the plot down the stretch"
Wow the coach is now telling them to lose. Amazing.!!!
cow level
Years ago
Please tell me that you don't actually believe any of what you have just said anon. #645
I can't believe that Harry and cow level actually took 645 seriously. Hahaha!
Harry Hackrein
Years ago
I can't believe that you thought I took it seriously.
I can't believe you honestly thought that anonymous wasn't just being silly when they 'claimed' that they thought you took it seriously.
Harry Hackrein
Years ago
Neither can I. So many anonymous' much be coaching across Australia. It's great to hear their input.
Great to hear your input too Harry. It's good that you're taking an interest in basketball champ.
Keep posting and learning, you'll get there!Everybody has to start somewhere.
There have been many Lightning Coaches sacked in the past for less than this. I suppose one player must be happy with him
Harry Hackrein
Years ago
Thanks for the support anonymous. Please tell us where you coach. Your opinions are so informative and everyone loves your input. I am learning so much.
Happy to hear that you're learning Harry!
Your posts indicate that you still have a way to go but good luck with it!
Hang in there, you can do it.
Yeah Screen will play against Melbourne this Friday night.
Greg
Years ago
Boti also reports screen to return.
http://www.botinagy.com/blog/week-10-rankings-/
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