Tom
Years ago
Best coach in NBL history
I am writing a book about the NBL and would like to know the current NBL fans thoughts on the greatest coach in NBL history.
Tom
Years ago
I am writing a book about the NBL and would like to know the current NBL fans thoughts on the greatest coach in NBL history.
It's a tossup between Gordie and Goorj for me. I'll go with Gordie McLeod though, as he's been able to do more with less talented players in my mind.
Spinner
Years ago
Marcus Camby will say Marty Clark was the best!!!
Young Gun
Years ago
Goorj... not sure there's any contest as far as results go. There are the usual arguments against him that financial ruin typically followed & that his defensive focus made the league unpalatable to watch as other teams followed his blueprint.
I think Rob Beveridge could have challenged if he had stayed in the league a little longer.
Train
Years ago
I'd give Brett Brown and Lindsay Gaze some consideration but i think Goorjian was definitely the most successful.
Goorjian, although he was given $$$
For a local coach who usually had limited $ to spend Gordie McLeod.
paul
Years ago
Three championships in eight years. Not too many coaches can match that.
Jonno
Years ago
How do people rank Phil Smyth??
I rank him right up there, and wonder if he always had a big budget ala Gorj, whether he would have continued his winning ways.
His success seemed to drop off at a similar time when his roster budget appeared to be slashed, who knows what he could have achieved if he could always have big budget stacked rosters ala Gorj. I reckon he would have been as good/better.
But for a coach that hasnt ever really had a massive budget Geordie McLeod has been sensational, so ill have him as my pick as best coach, being able to win his fair share with budget rosters most years is an amazing achievement and i doubt many others could do it to the same level.
Goorjian has the highest winning % of any coach in any sport in any league in Australia.
Lindsay would be close.
Westover?
Wildcat Fan
Years ago
Goorj for mine,
Geordie, Lindsay Gaze, Bevo, Brett Brown, Lemanis, Adrian Hurley, Phil Smyth, Alan Black, Bob Turner, deserve some recognition but Goorjian for overall success and longevity.
Downside was that his teams were always financially stacked, and he had a habit of losing quite a lot of GF's.
Marcus Camby
Years ago
Its really only Goorj but in the recent times Geordie.
Wilson Sting
Years ago
Is everyone just listing every coach they can remember from the last 30 years?
Frank you missed "t in the " between no and contest
Isaac
Years ago
I was impressed by that patch when Goorjian brought in a series of college recruits, added imports, and maintained a successful team. Across the threepeat and then the GF loss in the follow up, the Kings were quite reliant on guys like Worthington, Barlow and Kendall after the big name imports were gone and guys like Thornton and Sanford came through. Roberts was a good role-player and he got great mileage from Martin and victory-cigar Carter. Not to mention tackling Crosswhite who became a strong piece in a few successful teams.
IMO, Crosswhite has been a significant loss when removed from his teams. Those defensive bigs like him, Davidson and Knight are so handy.
MCV
Years ago
Goorjian.
The question should be: Who is the 2nd best coach in NBL history?
Antsy
Years ago
Brian Kerle - 4 championships in a different era #1
Ken Cole - reaching heights in a short term (1-2 yrs) #1
Brian Goorjian - sustained success #1
Gordie McLeod - getting best from least #1
Joey Wright - NBL currently #1
Lindsay Gaze? Fail. 2 championships in 137 years with 3 Hall of Famers for at least 100 of them. Hell, Al Westover had that many in 5-6 years.
Cobra
Years ago
Not saying the wins are an indication of who the best coach is. But here are the top 10 coaching records, ordered by number of wins then percentage (as of before 2014/15 season):
1. Brian Goorjian 514-221 69.93%
2. Lindsay Gaze 339-312 52.07%
3. Brian Kerle 282-174 61.84%
4. Alan Black 279-218 56.14%
5. Bob Turner 224-145 60.70%
6. Brendan Joyce 217-216 50.12%
7. Phil Smyth 205-160 56.16%
8. Barry Barnes 191-156 55.04%
9. Joey Wright 187-133 58.44% - Active coach
10. Bruce Palmer 184-113 61.95%
Other active coaches:
11. Gordie McLeod 184-225 44.99%
18. Trevor Gleeson 127-96 56.95%
27. Aaron Fearne 68-78 46.58%
38. Shawn Dennis 40-74 35.09%
49. Chris Anstey 28-31 47.46%
76. Dean Vickerman 11-17 39.29%
124. Damian Cotter 0-0 0.00% - last by default
I think win percentage is more important than total number. What was Westovers win percentage?
Cobra
Years ago
Alan Westover: 134-74 64.42% (2nd highest win percentage of all coaches with at least 100 wins - behind Brian Goorjian).
My figures above don't seem to match those of Boti's in his season preview, which doesn't surprise me due to the incorrect data being displayed in the nbl archive database.
I downloaded the coaching records a few seasons ago when the nbl website had it up and have been updating it manually ever since, so either I have doubled up on some figures or Boti hasn't updated his to include last season's records (as some of the coaches records have been what I had before last season began).
paul
Years ago
By quick calcs, which might be a little off:
Lemanis 149-108 at 58%
Beveridge 105-85 at 55%
Cobra
Years ago
I have Beveridge at 104-85 55.03% Paul. But I might be a game here and there off.
Doesn't help that the NBL hasn't given out an update on the coaching record list.
Wilson Sting
Years ago
Thanks for the stats Cobra. Can you add championships as a column too?
Cobra
Years ago
I could add that, but that will require me to do some serious digging around. I could get most of them, but it isn't as easy as you would think to get all the correct data online. Kind of disappears into a black hole.
Cobra
Years ago
Anon 496972 - if you are trying to pick the coach with the worst record, you should have said Pete Mathieson (coach of the 1988 Geelong Supercats who went 0-24).
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