Is Joyce a funny guy? Good to have around the blokes? A game changing cheerer?

Just trying to understand this signing.

The best towel waver in the business according to many.

Is the signing of Joyce a joke??

very strange signing, there are so many better guards around including in seabl who are unsigned and would take minimum deals! I dont get it!

interesting to see Madol Chol (development) from the AIS program, I had wondered what had become of him. hope he gets some court time.

as for Joyce, must be the points system! well little else make sense

The story for Joyce is answered in the answers to the following questions:

Who is the Kings coach?

Who is the Opals Assistant Coach?

Who is the Opals Head Coach?

Imagine the influence and pressure being exerted...

Seabl stats

40% from the field

20% from 3

57% FT

I almost feel sorry for the guy (Son of Joyce). He obvioulsy loves the game to chase a full time gig on what I really hope is min salary in a city like Sydney.

Although that said, this old boy connection with Joyce senior and Cotter through the Opals and the fact no other team would look twice at a player with the above SEABL stats (no matter the age) doesn't look good for Cotter's quest to be looked at seriously.

Cotter has a good reputation so just cant understand the Joyce signing or a fouple of the developement guys time will tell

'More recently he has been playing well in the second-tier SEABL competition for the Canberra Gunners and will provide versatility, athleticism and a solid defensive mindset, adding depth to a quality backcourt rotation that includes exciting import Kendrick Perry and recent national squad members Ben Madgen and Jason Cadee.'

Does not the above statement answer the question why they selected him, give the bloke a break, he is there for a good reason, maybe, just maybe he fits the program and completes their 2015 roster!?

Madol Chol,

Spent a year at Diamond Valley under Estcourt, hope he returns to the league and plays more minutes or progresses to SEABL after his year with the Kings

Hoops.com.au traffic is very grateful that the Joyce family are still involved in Australian basketball at the highest levels.

He lives in can be re a so will have to move.

Probert, Doyle, Daly, Masunda, Macdonald, Wilcher, Owusu, Tueta, Fisher, Adnam.

Do these SEABL guys not want to play NBL?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think all of these guys could contribute more than Joyce. And I'm not knocking Joyce, good on him, but sheeeeze. Bball in Aus is a funny game.

Masunda proved succesdfully this seabl season he is no where near nbl level.

I think there are betters options available to sign, but just wondering where do people see Daniel Joyce Vs Kevin White? Who is the better player and who contribute more? For mine they both struggle, but just wondering how will they be used in the rotation with Cadee, Perry, madgen and Childress?

Kevin White is an unbelievable team mate and solid contributor. Can defend, provides hustle and if required can knock down a shot. Wouldn't surprise me if he was captain this season.

Kevin White can knock down a shot??!?! I suppose he has hit 14 of the 75 three pointers in the NBL meaning he is a career 19% 3 point shooter for a 6'2 guard.

He might be a top bloke and hard worker but I think he is out of his depth in the NBL.

As with most players that can't contribute offensively (Joyce, White, Demos) it is best comment on their defensive ability as it looks like they try quite hard on that end of the floor.

The above shooting percentages indicate that the word stellar shouldn't be used to describe Joyce's SEABL season, especially when his team didn't make the playoffs. No matter what class or leadership is shown. Perhaps adequate or not in the bottom tier at his position might be more apt.

There are definitely better players in SEABL (& other leagues no doubt) who would jump at the chance of an NBL minimum contract. It's yet another case of who you are being more important than what you can do which plagues most sports but basketball worse than most.

Being a NBL development player isn't always what its cracked up to be.

Usually those who make the development spots are the ones prepared to move state, live on SFA money and probably sacrifice their job/Career/education to do it.

Plenty of talent in the SEABL capable of taking those spots but don't chase them for the above reasons.

Joyce is a contracted player, not a development player. On that subject think of Jarrad Weeks who's been a Kings development or injury replacement since their return to the league & has watched others get contracts ahead of him (Armour & Gleeson would have been more galling but Joyce isn't much better). He's in Europe playing now so likely getting better coin there, not that he ever earned much from the Kings.

"The story for Joyce is answered in the answers to the following questions:

Who is the Kings coach?

Who is the Opals Assistant Coach?

Who is the Opals Head Coach?

Imagine the influence and pressure being exerted..."

Well JoyceSr is a turd so he knows all about exerting pressure.