Anonymous
Years ago
Boomers warm up games start tonight
I believe Boomers warm up games start tonight against Finland?
Anonymous
Years ago
I believe Boomers warm up games start tonight against Finland?
Lance_Uppercut
Years ago
Yeah it seems the Boomers 1st pre-tournament game starts tonight v Finland.
As per Basketball Australia website
Airbnb Australian Boomers pre-FIBA Basketball World Cup Tour
Lithuania Tournament
Airbnb Australian Boomers v Finland
Friday 8 August @ Klaipeda, Lithuania 11:15pm (All times AEST)
Airbnb Australian Boomers v Ukraine
Saturday 9 August @ Klaipeda, Lithuania 11:15pm
Airbnb Australian Boomers v Lithuania
Tuesday 12 August @ Klaipeda, Lithuania 2:00am
Finland Invitational
Airbnb Australian Boomers v Finland
Wednesday 13 August @ Helsinki, Finland 2:00am
Nice Tournament
Airbnb Australian Boomers v Ukraine
Saturday 16 August @ Nice, France 2:00am
Airbnb Australian Boomers v Philippines
Sunday 17 August @ Nice, France 2:00am
Airbnb Australian Boomers v France
Monday 18 August @ Nice, France 4:30am
Strasbourg Tournament
Airbnb Australian Boomers v Finland
Saturday 23 August @ Strasbourg, France 4:30am
Airbnb Australian Boomers v France
Monday 25 August @ Strasbourg, France 3:00am
Jonno
Years ago
Are these games going to be shown on livebasketball.tv??
paul
Years ago
The Lithuania v Ukraine game has a stream, so hopefully the Lith v Boomers gane the next night will have too.
All the lithuania games will apparently be streamed here. No idea if any of the other games will be though.
http://www.sportotv.lt/tvarkarastis
I can't even find a betting agent that will let me bet on tonights game. Was hoping that they'd have a stream on bet365 or somewhere.
@rpjward
Australian u17 men tip off world champs at 7.30pm tonight. Watch live on @FIBA youtube channel or follow assist coach @JSchueller15 for info
AussiePride
Years ago
Looks like Australia vs Ukraine is going to be streamed tomorrow night on the Lithuanian station above but no mention of the Aus vs Finland matchup.
Phil
Years ago
I mentioned this in the other thread but for those that may have missed it the Lithuanian national broadcastor has an app that allows you to watch their channels live. The app is called LRT GROTUVAS. If they are broadcasting the games locally (and i think that would be likely) you can download this app for free and watch the games. the only negative is i dont know how you could record it or watch it later. Let me know if you have trouble finding the app but should come up easily enough.
Phil
Years ago
What crappy timing. I was in Klaipeda recently. Would have been awesome to cheer on the Boomers there!
AussiePride
Years ago
I have the app running Phil but I can't see tonight's game in any program listing. My Lithuanian is a little rusty though!
LC
Years ago
11pm AEST tonight.
Game vs Finland live online via SportoTV.
Link: Australia vs Finland
They are streaming all games of Lithuanian tournament.
MRT
Years ago
Thanks LC now I've got no choice but to stay up with work at 6:30 tomorrow lol
LC
Years ago
You can watch the teams warming up now!
KingPodge - I don't know you well enough, but I am flattered (I think).
A great legitimate stream too! All Lithuanian games are being streamed via this same site.
Some_Fulla
Years ago
Apparently Drew Gooden suiting up for Finland this WC was a hoax...
I get through two ads streamed and then nothing...
Beantown
Years ago
Mine was Josh, but I switched off the HD button on the bottom right and is working well now
LC
Years ago
Great stream in HD for me :)
A vast improvement on the U17 men's coverage by FIBA tonight ;)
and jawai is a monster! bit out of touch though
That was a great play and pass by Jawai. These Finns can play though.
the finn's are well organised.
but the aussie's are just getting everyone some court time. aussies trying to play very fast (lots of movement) which is hard when changing players so regularly...
great to watch it all the same
Beantown
Years ago
The Fins have been setting some nice screens to get their shooters open looks and they are nailing them. They are also getting up in our face on D and we look rushed and out of sync a lot on offence. Exum looking very tentative so far. Dellavedova is going to have to do a LOT of work at the point in this tournament by the looks.
We looked much better with Bairstow and Baynes out there early. Defence dropped off once we started to sub our starters.
Mick
Years ago
Gibson is terrible at this level and shouldn't be on this team. People forget that until they see him play. why??
We are really making it hard on ourselves with no shooters too...
I hope Lemanis works out his rotations because his sub patterns have been a bit odd...obv very early days though
Joe ingles is such a lazy player. Can see how blatt didn't think highly of him by the end of the season in Europe. The bloke could be anything IF ONLY he had a little bit of dellys drive
"Gibson is terrible at this level and shouldn't be on this team. People forget that until they see him play. why??"
Like i said in a previous thread, we should've replaced Gibson with Simmons and just played Delly and Exum at the point with maybe Goulding or Ingles playing the leftover minutes at pg.
Smellyhead
Years ago
Gibson is terrible... Why oh why...
Also, Andersen really really needs to retire already.
Marcus Camby
Years ago
They can get a flawless HD stream from Lithuania but the folk at the NBL cannot get NBL.tv to work.
Man, we're getting owned by bloody Finland. Yeah, definitely a medal contender lol.
Why the hell is Gibson still on the floor? Get that dud off!
Smellyhead
Years ago
That's better... Close out on the shooters and run.
Lance_Uppercut
Years ago
Bairstow and Motum look the best out of the bigs
Anyone have the webcast link? I can't seem to find it for the live stats.
Smellyhead
Years ago
Oh and I've been hating on Andersen in the green and gold for like 12 years now. Not just half a game.
Can anyone tell me why the stream isn't working? Just pauses after some ad with a rabbit on a couch for me!
Beantown
Years ago
Much better 2nd stint from Exum. Liking Bairstow's agility and hustle compared to his direct opponents.
Better agility from our bigs is allowing us to slow their penetration and our guards are starting to get steals again as a result. Much better last few mins.
33 for Finland is lights out for a big guy! Looks a sweet stroke
daneo
Years ago
Motum is quality finishing under the basket, he was doing it in summer league also. Its like a quick release layup..
Smellyhead
Years ago
Brock Motum has seriously improved leaps and bounds. I really hope he makes an NBA squad this year.
cavolo
Years ago
33 for Finland is Troy Murphy who was drafted by the Bulls a view years ago but never really saw any court time. Think he is with the Jazz this season? He was suiting for them in the Summer League. Definitely a 3 point shooter!
Erik Murphy just got traded from Utah to Cleveland.
Mick
Years ago
one made 3 for the half by my count. No wonder they are down despite owning inside and in transition. Gonna be the story of our WC campaign...
Wow didn't even realize that was Murphy. Wasn't he starting for Golden State?
Smellyhead
Years ago
Whatever happened to our ability to shoot the 3? Australia used to be renowned for it.
Never saw any action with that bloody stream but commendable to fight back like that. But is Finland really a team that should be giving us trouble? I don't know what their pedigree is
Beantown
Years ago
Agreed! Loving the Brockus Motumus. Showing once again how sneaky he is at getting open looks. Smart player.
I think Gibson's copping some unfair heat on here tonight. He was very good in that second stint he had, pressuring their point guard and taking his scoring opportunities when they came.
How long since we stepped off the plane? Many of the guys definitely looked a step slow in all their movement and decision-making in the first half. Lots of passes just being made a split second too late and fast break opps blown due to poor decision-making.
It's Erik Murphy, who is currently team mates with Delly in Cleveland, not for long though
Finland beat Turkey, Greece, Russia and Slovenia in Eurobasket last year.
Adam
Years ago
Jawaii looks shocking. so slow and has trouble on closing out on bigs that can shoot the 3. How Ben simmonds didn't make this team is beyond me.
We struggled to contain the penetration early, that Finnish PG #30 was pulling all the strings. We did turn it around with some pretty intense defense, I can definitely see good potential in our press. Hopefully we can have a better half defensively in the half court.
Agreed about the outside shooting! we've had open looks but have more than likely chosen to penetrate. Goulding will definitely give us a different look in that regards. Damn it's good watching the Boomers again!
People are complaining about Gibson, but him being in the team instead of Martin should be a clear message to all kids to work on the offensive fundamentals of dribbling and shooting, even if you are a great defender.
cavolo
Years ago
oops! Sorry guys, yes indeed, it's Erik Murphy not Troy. As much as I love the Bulls, clearly his lack of court time led me to confuse him with the other and better Murphy! ;)
"They can get a flawless HD stream from Lithuania but the folk at the NBL cannot get NBL.tv to work."
+1
Smellyhead
Years ago
Did anyone elses stream go to shit at half time?
lol the way cam bairstow runs is bloody hillarious
LC
Years ago
Ingles big in the 3rd quarter so far.
Defence has lifted again.
Smellyhead
Years ago
Brockus Motumus still playing really cleverly out there.
Smellyhead
Years ago
Jawaii still looks like he needs to eat 12 less donuts a day.
Man, Jawai is slow now. This Finnish team can't miss from 3.
Smellyhead
Years ago
Get jawai off now and take a time out. Everyone looks gassed.
Some_Fulla
Years ago
Shooting clinic..
Aus lacking a rim protector too..
LC
Years ago
Every time Jawai has stepped onto the court, the Finns always seem to be able to get an open look from outside.
The Boomers will continue to lose with this pick and roll defence, it's the way Lemanis plays and it's complete crap. He gets the big to half commit to going over he screen and it's an easy lay up every time, or a 3 as we are seeing tonight
Beantown
Years ago
Yeah Jawai is far too slow. They just carve us up on D as soon as he is on the floor. Not happy with how out of shape he is either.
I think the commentator just said jawai is like a pudding?!?
Thed guys are basically just off the plane might be a bit early to judge.
Smellyhead
Years ago
How many points has motum got? He has to be leading the team. And seriously, wtf is Jawai even doing on at this point.
LC
Years ago
I thought Jawai would have been in better shape to get a gig on this team...he has done some good things, but defensively he is a liability right now.
Loving Bairstow & Motum.
its way to early to judge, and they are turning players over very regularly.
they have looked very good a couple of times
Lance_Uppercut
Years ago
Bairstow and Motum look like the only NBA players on this Boomers team, (even though only Bairstow is the only one out of the two to have an NBA contract)
AussiePride
Years ago
The Finns move the ball well, set good screens and are shooting the lights out but the real problem is that they didn't get the memo that we have NBA guys on our team!
Smellyhead
Years ago
Andersen still can't do anything at all right.
Smellyhead
Years ago
Seriously, those guys can hit open 3's. You probably should have realised that after the first 15 they hit.
wtf, what is finlands 3pt %?
and why didnt ogilvy get a look?
Adam
Years ago
This is a joke. An absoloute joke. Whats the point of even bringing out the big guns of delly and bairstow if you're going to play jawai and gibson 5-6 mins a half?
daneo
Years ago
anyone got a box score ? they would have to be over 70% from 3pt land
Lance_Uppercut
Years ago
I think the Boomers scouting report on Finland said Finland can't shoot 3s so don't bother guarding them
This is a joke. An absoloute joke. Whats the point of even bringing out the big guns of delly and bairstow if you're going to play jawai and gibson 5-6 mins a half?
Hardly big guns they are both average players at best
Smellyhead
Years ago
Lol @ the commentator. He's been ading -is to the end of every players name on our team. Then he goes and calls Lemanis "Lemon-o"
Finally starting to miss some shots. They ARE human.
why did the utah jazz let dante exum play hes going to injure himself bad
That better not be something serious happened to Exum..
Smellyhead
Years ago
I hope Dante just had an "embarrasment" injury on that one...
that was mad awkward from Exum.. what just happened?
Exum needs to be more aggressive. Way too tentative.
joshuapending
Years ago
Ankle? All those Adidas haters will come on out if he is wearing them.
Phil
Years ago
yeah, and in oz the term "outback shack" means dunny right?
Smellyhead
Years ago
I said it before and I'll say it again. JINGLES!
daneo
Years ago
old heads Jingles and Newley showing how its done..
Beantown
Years ago
Love Delly's effort countering all the screens the Finns set. His D has been great down the stretch. Also did a great job boxing out the Finnish big man when he slipped the screen and then came up with the rebound! That led to Ingles go-ahead three.
Speaking of which, nice to see Ingles getting the eye of the tiger when the game is on the line. He came up big when it mattered tonight.
Smellyhead
Years ago
Lots of things to improve on, but an interesting game and glad to get the win.
As much as i'm happy that we won, we kind of didn't deserve to win. Finland in general played much better. Our defence a lot of the time in particular was terrible.
Kudos to Finland on a game well played. They will surprise some people in this tournament.
Jawai and Gibson are both fat chunky bad basketball players and don't deserve to be here
Found some stats linked from @BasketballAus twitter account but its stuck in the 2nd qtr...
http://live.baskethotel.com/lkf/?lang=1
Beantown
Years ago
Definitely a solid win. Finland are a good team and we were getting our legs under us after a lot of travel, not to mention Lemanis was trying to give everyone a run.
If we'd been playing to win, no way Lemanis leaves Outback Shaq out there. I reckon both times Jawai was on they blew the lead out to 10 within minutes! Its not too late to replace him Andrej. Get someone in who isn't an overweight liability!
Finland can definitely finish 2nd in group C. Their best player, Petteri Koponen, didn't even play in this game and most of the other important players played less than 20 minutes.
Matt
Years ago
Ingles looked as though he was going through the motions in the first half but didn't he turn it on in the second. Anyone know what Goulding's injury was?
Boomers won 100-95
Ingles, Motum and Newley the standouts.
Good to get the win, but the defence for Aus was terrible. I know they were rotating everyone, but giving up 95 points is bad.
Jawai cannot defend the pick and roll and doesn't block/contest/foul shots in the paint. Ogilvy would be a much better upgrade here. I think Jawai won't play come tourney time.
Ingles hit 2 massive 3's late, but his defence sucked. The number of times he went under hand offs on screens and had the 3 buried on him was frustrating.
Gibson out of his depth. Martin just for his hustle should be there.
Broekhoff looked like Steidel and Gliddom and afraid to shoot.
Stand outs for mine were. Bairstow, Newley, Moutm and Delly. Baynes was serviceable and ingles was clutch.
Lucky to get the win and I hope not serious injury with Dante.
Adam
Years ago
Patty mills with one arm is better than halF of these players, need to get him in :D
Finland are ranked 39th in the world, this is their first WC and they only got in as a wild card entry.
Of the 24 teams at the WC only Senegal #41, Ukraine #45 and Egypt #46 are ranked lower.
Can they at all swap players now?
Simmons for Jawai?
its the first game topgether after a very long flight too.. Consider that.
LC
Years ago
Recap of Boomers win over Finland is now up on PnR:
Boomers come from behind to defeat Finland in friendly
The Australian Boomers commenced their 2014 FIBA World Cup campaign in Klaipeda, Lithuania, against Finland. After a long trip and little time to shake the jet-lag, the Boomers used their experience down the stretch to come from behind to record a 100-95 victory.
paul
Years ago
I suspect 'world rankings anon' is the same person as 'end of season stats anon'!
Finland beat Russia, Greece, Slovenia and Turkey at last year's Eurobasket. They are by no means a world power, but they are a dangerous team who are on the rise.
Mick
Years ago
Am i the only one that is really worried about the step down in coaching savvy from Brett Brown to Lemanis?
i dont know if lemanis can get it done at this level, he seems seriously outmatched in terms of Xs and Os..
LC
Years ago
Judging Lemanis on one game is a trifle early. This team is new and has only played 1 game together.
Mick
Years ago
Agreed, but i was never keen on his selection, and his pick and roll coverages were really concerning. P&R defence isn't as make or break in the NBL.
Hopefully he turns it around but he's never coached a team of this calibre before so his learning curve might be steeper than any player's.
Jez
Years ago
It's stating the blindingly obvious but we definitely miss Mills. What we lacked (which Finland had) was a guard who could create for himself out of pick and roll situations. Hopefully Goulding can be that guy if/when he gets over whatever injury he has. It isn't really in Dellavedova's or Exum's (not yet at least) skill-set as they're both primarily pass first guards.
With Jawai it was clearly a calculated gamble by Lemanis to select him. I think we need to wait until the end of the month to see if his mobility has improved before we can say conclusively whether or not it was a gamble worth taking.
"It's stating the blindingly obvious but we definitely miss Mills. What we lacked (which Finland had) was a guard who could create for himself out of pick and roll situations."
We had 100 points. I don't think scoring is the issue.
Beantown
Years ago
Mick, are you sure the pick and roll coverage problems are a result of Lemanis' coaching? I thought it was more down to lack of foot-speed from some of our bigs and a few guys needing to get more repetitions in on our defensive system. Maybe some jet-lag too!
"Can they at all swap players now?
Simmons for Jawai?"
And Gibson for Maker? (i wish)
Overall a pretty poor game. Terrible defense.
Motum and Bairstow were fantastic. Ingles and Newley were also pretty good. I was surprised at Newley not being terrible like he normally is.
Jawai is soooo slow. I don't remember him being this slow in the NBL.
Exum needs to be more aggressive and attack the basket. When you're quicker than everyone else by a big margin you have to take advantage of that.
If we play like this throughout the tournament we'll struggle to make it out of the group stage. I know Finland aren't a bad team but the victory should've been a lot easier than that. I know it's early days and they were jet lagged but that lousy defence is really concerning.
AussiePride
Years ago
There is definitely a few issues but that is what we have 9 pre-tournament games for. If we played like this in the first game of the world cup you would be worried but there is no reason to panic yet. It is all about getting our best combinations out there and giving the whole team a run. The main rotations should not be any where near finalised until games 7 - 9.
Steven
Years ago
Wasn't impressed with Jawai last night but there are quite a few more warm up games so may hold off criticism for now.
Bairstow and Motum were great for us.
Sheesh - you guys are like it's all over or something
First game together after 30 plus hour plane flight and one day to get yer head right
If they are still playing like this after games 7 and 8 then I'm worried
Gibson was fine - he was one of the reasons we got back into it before the half
Sure jawai was slow and really out of condition but he makes some great decisions out of the post - I don't really expect him to play more than 10 mins a game
If I was lemanis I'd be playing him for extended minutes to get in game shape at least
I would have liked the team to have 14 players avail for the pre tournaments and then culled before the big show - then you could have played guys like simmons a bit in these games to see what he could do
Eponymous
Years ago
I have no idea if lemanis is a good coach or not but looking 5-8 years into the future is he the coach who will let a group of thoroughbreds e.g. simmons, maker, adel, WmW, Exum, Bolden, Mading etc run.
paul
Years ago
"P&R defence isn't as make or break in the NBL"
Don't agree with that, some would say it's more so because most teams only have one big on the court leaving the bucket less protected when he's defending the pick-and-roll, especially with a lot of big guys able to pop offensively.
Brett Brown effectively admitted he struggled in the 2010 WCs so I'm not sure it's a step down in coaching, we'll find out once the real stuff starts I suppose.
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