Jamar is such a talented basketballer....depends how coach plans to use him.

Wouldn't be jumping for joy if I was a 36ers supporter.

He is a solid import.

I think a lot of other teams are making big changes to their teams and will be vastly improved e.g Melbourne, Breakers, Kings.

Adelaide will have to keep up - not convinced the signings of Crawford and Wilson help that.

The signings of Wilson and Crawford definitely help the 36ers cause... IF they are able to recruit a big gun type player. If not and its simply a solid import, we are toast compared to what the likes of Melbourne are putting together. Im ok with Wilson over Ervin, and Crawford is simply a nice vet to have. Looks like DJ is gone, so simple transaction of exchanging a talented DJ with a talented new face.

Wilson is a solid citizen who plays hard every night and you know what you get.

If the coach uses him right (Which Joey will) he will create lot of great looks for others plus get his 16-20pts.

In a open game plan like joey's he could cause havoc and be very good next to Gibson!

I dislike the signing and would like to be proven wrong. I think Wilson is on the downslide myself.

I'd prefer the return of Diamon Simpson or someone who brings excitement.

I like it. Like people have said, though, it depends on whether or not Adelaide can bring in another gun player. If they can then Wilson is a good fit. Has the ability to take over a game like Ervin without as many negatives. Probably fits in a bit better.

I'd be pretty happy to have Wilson and Crawford coming off my bench !!

Not impressed with either the Crawford or Wilson signing, at least in part because they are both well on the way to being past their peak in my opinion.

People seem to think Creek will step up and become the 'X-factor', but I wouldn't be banking on it.

At this stage I'm trying to contain the disappointment and waiting for the excitement - and the hope - because at the moment it feels like the 36ERS have found themselves in a 400m freestyle event in which they are at best dog-paddling.

And yes, I have paid for tickets, plus booking fee, plus parking.

I think we need to wait and see how the roster fills out to really judge this signing.

If its a direct swap for Ervin at the same price then its probably a break even move at best, there NBL stats are not too different, and Wilson may fit in with the coach and team better so on that basis it could be a upgrade, but wont be a huge difference either way. If this is the case, i dont hate it, but i dont love it either, i can sort of see what they are trying to do.

But, I also get the feeling that Wilson has come in a little cheaper than Ervin in both $$ and points, giving the 36ers a bit of flexibility to make other signings and other upgrades without really losing on the import pg. If thats the case then this could be a really good move. So this is why ill be waiting to see who else we get and how the team fits together before really judging this signing.

I will wait and see what happens with DJ or 2nd import before I judge this signing

After doing the sums it seems we are at 54 points


Without DJ

Import (10)/Big Red (9)
Petrie (8)/ BJ (5)
Creek (6)/ Aussie (6)
Gibson (10)/ Crawford (6)
Wilson (9)/ Teys (1)

Crawford could play 2 or 3 so the backup Aussie could be 2 or 3. Possible player could be Daniel Dillon

With DJ we would have 9 players taken up 62 points

Johnson (8)/Big Red (9)
Petrie (8)/ BJ (5)
Creek (6)/ 8 point player
Gibson (10)/ Crawford (6)
Wilson (9)/ Teys (1)

So with Johnson we can afford an 8 point player no many imports are 8 points

I must admit i like the idea of Daniel Dillon and either DJ or a import big (Gary Wilkinson??) to round out the roster

Can never have enough guys who are athletic, can handle the ball, play great defense and shoot the 3 at a good clip imo, i liked what i saw of Daniel Dillon. Rhys Carter also fits this mould fairly well too and i wouldnt have minded seeing him back if Dillon isnt an option.

DJ/Schenscher
Petrie/BJ
Creek/Crawford
Gibson/Dillon
Wilson/Teys

Looks good to me

We would have basically swapped

Ervin for Wilson
Cadee for Crawford (Gibson will have to back up pg)
Carter for Dillon

All solid enough moves, but none are huge upgrades either, i think Crawford for Cadee gives us another guy who can play defense and shoot the 3, so if he can get his shot a bit better than last season could be a nice addition.

Also not sure about 8 point imports, Ron Dorsey??? i seem to remember him being a 8 or 9 but cant find his points ranking from when he was in the NBL last.

Dillon was checking out the facilities and meeting Joey last week

in the Adelaide upbeat System Jamar is going to shine!!

if thats true re Dillon, that to me would be the most exciting signing of the off season, im a fan.

Im pretty sure he had signed to the Blaze to replace Cadee in the off season that the Blaze went under, so Joey must also like his game.

I would like this as our line-up:
Johnson / Schenscer
Petrie / Anthony
Import / Creek
Teys / Crawford
Gibson / Wilson*

I'd be happy to have Jamar in my team, a quality player and person and should be thinking about citizenship soon enough. Could be a huge signing when you think of the loyalty of imports in the league and the potential of 4/5 new teams next season (when he could be an Aussie citizen).

My concern with the 36ers is still the reliance on Gibson... Face it the guys a dud and takes court time away from others that could develop into better players than he is.

Why do people have Teys as our back up PG. He can't run the point...

Wilson has also played successfully with Dillon in the past

Wilson / Dillon
Gibson / Teys
Creek / Crawford
Petrie / Anthony
Import / Schenscher

2 2012 Olympians, MVP runner up, Upside of Creek and Dillon, NBA head of Schenscher, toughness of Petrie and Anthony with an unknown import or remote chance of DJ.

A lot to like about that line up

yeah, i'm not sold on Creek or Gibson.

Gibson isnt a dud. Very naive statement proud.

Proud - are you serious????

You obviously know nothing about Basketball if you think Gibbo is a dud.
Just because he doesnt shoot 20+ shots per game and average 25pts you think he's a dud?
There are games when Gibbo shoots 5 shots, still scores 12 points but LOCKS DOWN opposing 1 and 2 guards while dishing 7 assists with 2 steals.
He is a great leader - perfect captain.

Creek on the other hand is living on hype. i think he is a dud and not worth the court time. he has no jumpshot or scoring brains, yes he can score points but give me his height, frame and athleticism and i would do a shitload more.
he is probably a great guy dont get me wrong but he hasnt evolved yet and probably never will.

..wilson very good at times. only moderate others.
joey should get more outa him. I said;"Talalovich was crazy , Joe."

Wilson (9)/
Gibson (10)/Teys (1)
Crawford (6)/Creek (6)
Petrie (8)/ Anthony (5)
Johnson (8) or Import (10)/Schenscher (9)

Would bring back Carter or go Daniel Dillon for the last spot

Hence why everyone is doing "Or Import"

Getting Jamar is one of the best decisions this team can make.

Jamar plays under control and can be trusted to make good decisions.

Ervin whilst more attacking, often runs into opposition tall timber and turns it over.

You will get better point guard play from Wilson.

I understand however the concerns over the inroads the United have made as compared to the Sixers.

Please chase Diamon Simpson.
He really would keep us up with the Joneses.
Best undercoached import we have had.
Pleeeeaaaase.

Simpson was a gun and still is but we don't need him with Petrie on the team. He is too small to play centre, he's only 6"7

I suspect Diamon is out of the 36ers' price range now, even if he was a good fit with the rest of the roster, because they really need a big with decent range if DJ isn't coming back.

joey in usa looking for djs replacement, story on tennews,last nite

Yeah not sure about all this pro Simpson talk. Was okish, couldnt make a free throw to save hios life, and was merely a bright spot in a really poorly run system thanks to Clarke and Radford.

He's a very good player, and his FT shooting has improved (69% last season) but he isn't what Adelaide need and he would now be expensive after two excellent years in Israel.

schenscher scored freely over simpson (and weigh) didn't score on helliwell. neither did nevill.
anyways, joey looking for a tall athletic guy to replace triple mvp wineer, daniel johnson

Someone in the Mike Dunigan mould would suit the sixers imo.

kobe24, Diamon's FT shooting at the Sixers was woeful. Too flat and teams worked out you just foul him and send him to the line. For him to be considered as an import, I think he would have to prove an 80% FT shooting record.

Steven, I agree that a Dunigan type would fit nicely into the Sixers. The biggest complaint around here has been a lack of aggression on boards with the Sixers giving up too many OR's. A Dunigan type to crash the boards to fit in with a running game.

Seems like a decent line-up brewing. Feels like its lost something from last season, although there are still slots to fill so I guess that is unavoidable.

Anon,
I like your line up but instead of Daly I would rather Dillion and even Carter

Wilson/Dillion
Gibson/Teys
Crawford/Creek
Petrie/Anthony
Wilkinson/Schenscher

I reckon you guys will be pleasantly surprised by both Wilson and Crawford this coming season. Both were pretty clearly suppressed by their coaches last time around. PC is far from done, he just needs the right opportunity.

Wilson loves to run and play in a setting that gives him space and Crawford loves a team that penetrates the lane and runs transition. Even though the ball stuck with Wilson at Cairns last season, I simply don't think Joey will let that happen this year.

Ah yeah I see. Good observation on Joey's recycling tendencies, and it's good to know Jamar is loyal like that.

I just don't know what you Wilson detractors are on about.
Any one done a quick look over the stats for CNS-ADL games last season?
All considered the games weren't decided by either Point being obviously better.
Jamar is a handful. All teams struggle to contain his funky basket rolls. He'll unpick Cairns every time for you, and he's been taught the League by one of the best X's & O's coaches, a coach Joey openly respects. Get him to smile and he's a P R dream.
He'll draw a cheer when he's intoduced courtside in Cairns the first time. After the game there will be lots of rumblings about why he was cut.
One thing. He's a bit of a seal. 36'rs need to find a genial blue-water fishing enthusiast to keep the fish up to him ( he'll catch his own, he just needs taking where the fish are).
Cairns can't have everything. That's Adelaide's advantage.

Jamar's a gun and a great personality. If Joey uses him right he will be a complete handful with all the talent that's around him at the 36ers.

My take is we are going to struggle shooting the ball again this season. Wilson shot just 29% from 3 last season and outside shooting is definitely not a strength of Gibbo's. This will mean PC will need to shoot and shoot well as Creek still cant hit the backside of a barn. We will probably lose DJ who is a good outside shooting big man, leaving us really lacking much from outside.

Gibbo has shot 35% and 38% in his two years at Adelaide, I think you're a little harsh on him. The roster does need another shooter though.

I do remember Gibson coming over and scaring the daylights out of me one game with a 4th quarter 3pt burst...

At least I think it was Gibbo.

I'd say Dillon/Carter/Daly as the ninth signing then import as the tenth, agree that Dunigan/Wilkinson would be a good fit but worry about Wilkinson in the post on defensive end. I have it on good authority that the 36ers are very pleased with the signing of Jamar Wilson, has killer penetration and was underused bizarrely in Cairns last year, expect a return to previous seasons form and consistency in big games!!!

Simpson was interesting but seemed like a bit of a headless chicken out there.