Anonymous
Years ago
2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
Anyone know if you can watch it online?
Anonymous
Years ago
Anyone know if you can watch it online?
l
Years ago
Stats are live - don't know if they are streaming games
http://www.fibalivestats.com/matches/8/12/02/62/73Blx85NzCUdE/
LC
Years ago
Day 3 Recap is now up on PnR who is covering the event!
Day 3 Recap | 2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
After Day 3 there are only 3 undefeated teams remaining in the men's division while the women’s division looks to have come down to a 2-horse race. In the men’s, NSW Metro and VIC Metro are in fine form while New Zealand has very sneakily remained undefeated. The women’s action has seen VIC Metro dominate, with SA Metro also posting 2 impressive wins during Day 3′s action.
Why can't you get together with BA, the stuff on their championship site is absolute rubbish?
The fact that all their stuff is still linked to u18 champs (draws and results, the default championship on the home page, etc.) shows how much BA care.
LC
Years ago
#TeamPnR are more than happy to collaborate with BA if they are interested.
LC
Years ago
Day 4 Recap now up on PnR:
Day 4 Recap | 2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
We've had an extremely exciting day of basketball during Day 4 of the U16 Australian Junior Championships - the undefeated become the defeated and some last-second finishes highlight today’s action. We also have some great games ahead of us on Day 5 as we’re slowly approaching the finals games.
BA's media is at rock bottom since they implemented the new website.
CoE info - to be update is all they have
U17 girls squad link to nothing
16's nationals competition stats not working
launch of Aussie Hoops - compare it to tennis Aus's hot shots and it got/get no coverage...
the biggest news in years - 2 nba champs and 2 drafted and all the potential about to come and they not championing it at all.
such missed opportunities I'll have to write a letter to the CEO oh wait there isn't one (not for 6 months) but thats okay its obvious they don't need one! alls well BA
Anon
Years ago
Anybody no if there are games on tomorrow, or do they have a rest day?
Mightyceagles
Years ago
Can anyone please explain how the finals work
SA Metro girls top of pool B. Men waiting on last round.
No rest day, they have introduced quarter finals this year, God knows why.
Anyway quarters Thursday, semis Friday, finals Saturday.
NSW country look the second best women's team.
the front foot
Years ago
qld south top - will play vic metro in cross over - will play in a medal final of some description.
the front foot
Years ago
so what are the quarters ? 1a v 4b, 2a v 3b etc etc ?
Yes 1 v 4 and 2 v 3
SA met girls will finish 2nd in their group and will play ACT in the quarters.
That can't be right if there's quarter, semis, and grand finals. If it were 1v4 and 2v3 that only allows 2 rounds of finals doesn't it?
Sorry very poor math! Forgot there were 2 pools
Sow women's quarters will be:
VICM V VICC
NSWC V NSWM
ACT V SAM
SAC V QLDS
the front foot
Years ago
2 b or not 2 b that is the question OR OUR LADDER SPOT...... LOL
the front foot
Years ago
and the next round - winner 2b v 3a plays ? winner of what other game - 1a vrs 4b ?
I'm tipping Vic Metro V NSW Country Gold Medal Game
VICM V VICC 7pm
NSWC V NSWM 1pm
ACT V SAM 5pm
SAC V QLDS 3pm
Wonderer
Years ago
I'm going to agree w 196 and tip NSW C V QLD S for the girls final...it's been hard to predict all week and there are some tired legs showing, so not too confident about anything!
anonymous
Years ago
Seriuosly you think vic met for the girls will not take this out like every other year lol.
Gota be the weakest vic metro side ever. But they still have a really good shot at taking gold.
The NSW teams are not far off it, Qld S also in the mix... and who knows about SA depending how they shoot!
Assuming NSW Country beat NSW Metro in their 1/4 final and QLD South beat SA Country in their 1/4 final, the two would meet in the semis. Winner of that would play the winner of the other semi..... out of ACT, SA Country, Vic Country or Vic Metro.
196 doesn't rate QLD South and doesn't think the will make the gold medal game! Vic Metro V somebody, likely NSW Country.
Great effort by the VICC boys to get over the line in a close one vs NSWC, now giving themselves a chance against NSWM in a quarter finals game.
That could be the pick of the games tonight, especially if the VICC boys can get their shooting caps on!
Also VICM v SAM in the boys at 5.00pm could be a cracker if SAM come to play.
LC
Years ago
Quarterfinals preview now up on PnR:
Quarterfinals Preview | 2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
The pool games are over and we're heading into the quarterfinals stages of the U16 Australian Junior Championships. As has been the trend all year long, VIC Metro are the favourites in both men’s and women’s divisions - both undefeated with no signs of slowing down. We bring you our preview of the quarterfinal matchups.
anonymous
Years ago
Ezi Magbegor (11.2 ppg, 12.2 rpg & 7 bpg seriously this kid is playing met4 in VJBL for Coburg and they are sitting 8th.....how has she gone unnoticed till now
Ezi is in NITP, plays Youth League etc. so nothing wrong with her program.
Hardly unnoticed, maybe well hidden?
Has made huge improvement in the last 6 months.
The standard of teams they have played has been of very low quality, besides the NSW Country side which gave them a run for their money.
Vic Metro go 10 deep, don't even need to start their best 5.
Ezi comes off, and the next best shot blocker in the country comes on.
And just to mix it up, sometimes they play both together.
Wonderer
Years ago
Ok, so I didn't read the draw well..... Let's say Vic M V NSW C in both boys band girls. Either way, huge return to form for NSW C teams, just like the old days when top 4 was the norm.
SAM gave a good account of themselves against VICM boys last night, if they could have converted a couple of key shots late it could have gome down to the wire.
VICM looked just a little flat at times and turned it over against incredible pressure applied by a determined SAM team, but in the end the VICM boys held on and a late basket on the siren ended SAM's run.
It was an exciting although the error rate was high at times. Well done to both teams.
Also last night NSWM boys finished strongly to get over a gallant VICC who will rue their chances in the final quarter down by 10 but unable to bridge the gap.
There seemed to be no answer to stopping NSWM's No.8 who landed some key jump shots while VICC missed their attempts when they needed them in the second half especially.
A key moment at the end of the third saw a tech on the VICC coach for nothing too sinister that gave NSWM two points and the ball resulting in a long 3 on the siren and turned a 5 point lead to 10, almost killing the contest.
This was a momentum changer that really should not have been called as both coaches were animated at some no calls. Disappointing for the kids and everyone watching when the officials get it wrong like that IMO.
NSWM will be there pushing for a medal, they are a strong outfit. VICC rely too much on too few but if they shoot under 30% they can't expect to win either.
SeaHawk
Years ago
I noticed the young girl Simmons from Mildura is playing for NSWC in the girls and putting up massive numbers how does that work? Or did VicC politics raise its ugly head again.
Wonderer
Years ago
Reply #482367
re: 2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
NSWC are reigning champs in the boys.
This is true, but for quite a few years before that, NSWC have failed to reach the medal rounds in either boys or girls.
As for Jasmine Simmons, I'm told she lives in NSW?
LC
Years ago
Quarter finals are now won and done - medal round time!
Semifinals Preview | 2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
The quarterfinals games of this tournament are over and we're down to the final 4 teams in each division. The overwhelming trend remains the dominance of NSW and Victorian sides but will the likes of SA Metro, Queensland South, or even New Zealand, be able to fight their way into the grand final games? We bring you our preview of the semifinals matchups heading into the penultimate day of action.
.
Years ago
mildura is right on border with wentworth / gol gol - like albury / woodonga
Bear
Years ago
Boy's semi finals will be worth the watch if you can be there. Vic will have to be on their game against a very dangerous NZ team and the NSW derby game may come down to shooting percentage...
No clear favourties for mine, too close to call, maybe an upset and a NZ v NSW metro final?
anonymous
Years ago
when they love on the border they can potentially play either, and in fact Mildura girls have been known to play SA.
ezi magbegor only 14? crazy block shot average...
What is going on in Tasmania.Under 18s just and 16s to finish on bottom this year.Can someone please explain because what I saw in Tamworth 16s the program seems to have changed.
2 wins for NT girls well done and is this a first?
SA women win in OT by 3..... GO South Aussie.......
VIC metro coaches just have themselves to blame. SA play tight zone all night. They take their best passer out when they're 8 up and sit her for the rest of the night! WTF???
Weak top age group for VIC metro carried by only a few legit players.
woo wee big upsets...
In the women... Qld South & SA Metro final... knocking off the favoured NSW & Vic teams.
In the men NSW Country beat a stronger (on paper) NSW Metro side. NZ almost got it done vs. Vic Metro, but the Vics hung on.
Tomorrow will be interesting!
Anonymous
Years ago
Can someone confirm if Justin schueller is the high performance coach for vic country and metro or just country?
vic metro women! cant believe they lost after dominating the other teams and sa metro only scraping through on multiple occasions.
The scrapers were obviously in a tougher pool than expected then and did not only just scrape through. Vic only dominated pool A whilst QLD South and SA in pool B who were SA down 1 point at last meeting now both in the Gold Medal playoff... Tides are changing.... You can lose a game and still win if you win the right one and both teams did.... It is not always about Vic and great to see other teams shining through. The Opals currently have players from various states and it is great to see more talent coming through with a national spread.... Well done to all players representing theri state..
Representing their State, Territory or Island sorry..
Anonymous
Years ago
It does make a nice change actually to see other states have a go. Hopefully it will make Vic metro realise they need to lift their game and not be so complacent, and at times arrogant.
LC
Years ago
After 7 days of basketball and a number of close matchups, we're finally down to our Grand Final games. NSW Country is looking to repeat as champions in the men’s division, they’ll be up against an undefeated VIC Metro squad. In women’s basketball, SA Metro did the seemingly impossible by defeating VIC Metro in their quarterfinal matchup, they’ll face Queensland South who got the best of NSW Country in yet another game that went down to the wire. Here’s a preview of both the men’s and women’s Championship games.
Grand Final Preview | 2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
The new finals format for 2014 has really put a cat amongst the pigeons! This was the same at 18's. In previous years many teams that have jagged a spot in the top eight quarter finals would have been playing off in the lower half of the competition. So a team that just squeezes through the week ultimately has a shot at a medal or top 4 finish, even winning just 2 of their pool games.
The standard this week was ordinary at times, WA, Qld and Tax are in big trouble looking at the standard of their teams. Vic County have slipped, although had their best boys player injured for the important part of the week. Well done to SAM girls, lots of heart and very well coached all week.
Anonymous
Years ago
Go SAM well played all week. First time in 13 years that VIC metro are not playing for gold Yeh!!!! Very proud of the girls and the people that said they picked the wrong team eat your words they played with heart and passion.
Was at the game, am a proud Vic Metro fan and watched a pretty decent game and we lost. The SA girls were tenacious and played very well, good luck they won.
The arrogant tag on 13 & 14 yr old kids !!!! Really
LarryLegend
Years ago
a question for Anon poster re Vic Country boys. Who did you see as their injured best player ? I watched a couple of games and they were.an even group with no real standout player.
Wonderer
Years ago
Week of upsets continues, NSW C W def VIC M to take the bronze and NZ M on the way to knock off NSW M M....Didn't someone say this would be the closest 16s in ages? Glad I didn't put any money on anyone.
Vic Metro girls couldn't handle the zone and shot terribly all week, would love to know their shooting %.
SA Country girls defeated SA Metro quite comfortably in the lead up to the championships, yet the SAC girls underperformed on the big stage! Well done Lynne, you earned it.
Gold for SA metro girls - well deserved! Congratulations!
Anonymous
Years ago
482865 , think the arrogant tag was aimed at Vic met in general not the kids
I get the state rivalry but wha has the current coach or players from Vic Met done to be arrogant ? Have you had a run in with either coach ? SA staff and team were deserving winners, congratulated the big fella and coaches on the way out....
He is a giant by the way
Well done to Dean the CEO down at Geelong for putting on a wonderful event, everything seemed to go smoothly and this was one of the best organised nationals for quite some time. The venue was terrific and the basketball exciting, great job by all volunteers and organisers.
Vic Met could start by displaying the word METRO on their tops like all other states do. Maybe they will appear less arrogant if they start to understand they are part of Victoria and not all of it?
Anonymous
Years ago
Couldn't agree more with above poster, Vic metro in general have an arrogant attitude when it comes to nationals in all age groups. Yes they have been extremely successful, BUT, they are not invincible, and they are not the only Vic team, unfortunately the metro counterparts seem to think otherwise. Few years ago they won bronze not their usual gold,that team refused to wear their medals, that to me was the ultimate in arrogance and the coaches did nothing about it.
SA Metro girls wow and half or more are bottom age.
mimas77
Years ago
LarryLegend, the Vic Country boys had a stand out player. I don't think we can name him on this forum but he missed the last part of the tournament with a knee injury.
Regarding the arrogance of Vic Metro, I think that can entirely be directed at the girls coach. What an absolute twit whose childish behaviour will surely see him not coaching next year.
Seems no matter what the Vics do, nothing is good enough I guess. Arrogant can be levelled at the NZ boys coach, the NSW NITP coach, the Vic Cntry womens coach.....
Where does it end !!!
Coaches are labelled arrogant because they get frustrated at being told to just shut it, by the referees. It's all their fault? If referees would speak to coaches properly and calmly warn them before they throw a tech at them after just ignoring them it would be a lot better and coaches would not get so frustrated. Then they wouldn't appear arrogant!
Anonymous
Years ago
Don't think the overall arrogance of Vic met in all age groups had one single thing to do with the refs lol. It's due to having very successful teams over many years in all ages both boys and girls. But their is never a reason for arrogance to be acceptable especially in junior sport, not by players , coaches or the big wigs behind the scenes. And this is what has been displayed especially the last few years from the Vic metro group. So hopefully the few losses they have had over the last couple of age groups and years girls in particular but now the boys, will make them realise that winning is not a right, it's a privilege and an honour, but more importantly it should be accepted with pride and humility.
Whilst players win games, what an amazing achievement for Lynne Holland. Gold medals never come easy and the last one for SA was over 15 yrs ago!
I don't personally know Lynne but I've watched her coach from afar and work with Woodville for so long to be the butt of anonymous critics here. She has persisted and persisted and now has a national championship to show for it.
We Know
Years ago
Ask anyone who was close enough to see and hear the behaviour of the Vic Metro girls coach towards the SA coaches after the SA girls overtime win, and you will know exactly what people are talking about.
Terrible role model for his young players.
photo finish
Years ago
the credit for the win must also go to the other coaches / players in our NITP / state program for this age group.
The young bloke doing the boys is an incredibly humble and outgoing coach, not an arrogant bone in his body, 18s and 20s boys coaches all in the same boat.
If not happy with the girls then don't label all.
I'm not a Vic Metro person however over some years have got to know quite a few people in basketball, also involved with Vic Metro and although you will find big egos and arrogance within this program, it isn't any different than any other state program in this regard.
The difference is in the expectation, the self confidence and pressure from long term success and the culture this has developed over years at the top of junior sport, especially basketball.
Wearing the Big 'V' has a perception of superiority and elitism in Australian sport built up over many years of fierce competition and it is not only basketball that has the Big 'V' as its number one iconic label of being the 'top dog'.
It is a perception now, one that people outside the Victorian landscape may interpret the persona of self confidence and success as being arrogant at times.
This is not an excuse for poor behaviour by any individual coach, parent or other persons involved in the Vic Metro program as may have been displayed on this occasion, however there are some unfair labels and let's face it outsider opinions are even driven by envy at times.
It probably would help the basketball program if they adopted the word metro in their uniform but I understand the honour of wearing the Big 'V' so this may be a hard one for those people running the program to swallow. It would have to be forced upon them by whoever runs the Nationals before they conform to this idea but it could be a good start!
Previous post probably summed it up best, expectation, pressure, envy as well as previous history of doing week.
Anonymous
Years ago
Bad behaviour is never excusable, and the fact that Vic metro as a whole seem to think they are the only Vic team is just one area that needs to be addressed by Basketball Victoria as a group. Their total disregard for their country counterparts has been going on for years, it's not healthy rivalry its arrogance that they think they a so much better, not the fact that they have an enormous pool of talent to pick from, due purely to geographical facts that the metro population out numbers the country. You don't see this with other states, having been around the Vic metro/country program's for the past 14 yrs it's something that stands out. Add to this the over confidence that all metro teams have to the point of arrogance brought about by their undeniable success at nationals, I personally think those at the top need to instil what it really means to play at this level for EVERY state, every athlete coach support person has worked their backsides off to get to a nationals, to represent their state, it's a privilege not a right, and they should act so at all times win or loose. People come to watch these athletes of all ages play a game they love and are deemed to be good at, kids look up to these athletes and want to emulate them, so it's not just about winning it's about setting an example that others can follow.
I expect that the "Vic should have two teams" guy won't be bleating his rubbish this week...
Well I have travelled to the Country as a Metro Coach and believe me it is alive and well as in Country vs Metro divide !!!! Not only Victoria, Plenty of smack here about SA Metro and Country so do not kid yourselves
You are correct anon^, however at least SAM and other metro programs are not pretending to represent their whole state, they at least acknowledge their country cousins by wearing uniforms that identify them as metropolitan.
tbh I don't see it as that big of a deal - both Queensland teams just have "Queensland" on it for as long as I can remember.
HO
Years ago
Don't Country Vic and Metro Vic wear logos instead of names? I thought neither actually carried the name Victoria - i know they both use the Southern Cross and Country Vic have a CV below it?
L
Years ago
I'd like to see the sandgropers teams results stronger.
Bear
Years ago
Personally don't see a great issue in the Vic uniforms, I get the idea but the bigV is about tradition and this is something we need to see.
There is high expectation on NSW as well these days, maybe both Vic & NSW should be seen to lead by example more on and off the court...?
Anon
Years ago
What exactly did the girls coach do to cause this argument?
LC
Years ago
The tournament recap us now up on PnR, including All-Tournament teams and MVP's.
Tournament Recap | 2014 U16 Australian Junior Championships
Throughout the year it was Victoria who dominated the Australian Junior Championships - taking away the gold in both men's and women’s basketball at the U20 and U18 events – however the U16′s Australian Junior Championships proved to be a different story. This week Geelong was the home of some of the most talented junior athletes that Australia has to offer, and they didn’t disappoint. Here’s a recap of all of this week’s action.
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