Isaac
Years ago
Per Twitter. Right move? Can incoming coach Blatt get him on track after a season of notoriously bad defence?
Cavs are flying to NJ to offer Kyrie max deal (5 years, $90 mil) on July 1
Raider fan
Years ago
No where does that say that Kyrie will sign it, Isaac.
Exactly there's no definite there.
If lakers offer Lebron max contract doesn't mean he's signing
MACDUB
Years ago
Just a dumb signing IMO.
Irving has and probably never will strike me as a guy who is going to win you many ball games (And certainly not post season series').
Steven
Years ago
Hasn't even lead his team to the playoffs yet in the East.
And they just drafted a guy who might be worth the 5-year max in a few years... Having Kyrie on the books for that money is going to look pretty dumb if Wiggins turns into a superstar and they can't afford to keep him. No doubt the guy can play, but if you're going to make a commitment like that, wouldn't you trade Waiters, see how Kyrie goes with a new coach and SG, and then make the offer? If he doesn't get better in the next two years, he won't even be a top-10 PG. Curry, Lillard, Paul, Parker, Westbrook, Rose if healthy, Wall, MCW, Rondo, Rubio, Lowry. And if you want to say two years from now Paul and Parker will be past it, allow for the development of some of the recent additions like Oladipo, Payton, Exum, Smart and Mudiay coming in next year. How many of those guys could Cleveland get straight up for Kyrie?
Isaac
Years ago
Raider fan, that wasn't the only quote I'd seen. Here's another from ESPN Cleveland:
BREAKING: Kyrie Irving will sign 5-year max extension w/ #Cavs
MACDUB
Years ago
Exactly.
There is a wealth of talented Point Guards in the League.
There's a few issues:
- The kid doesn't play defence (even when he had a defensive specialist coach like Mike Brown)
- He actually regressed the last year (if someone regresses in a contract year, you don't normally go out and stump out big money for him.
- he isn't a leader
- seems more concerned with individual accomplishments
MACDUB
Years ago
Forgot about David Blatt coming in as well.
He is not a coach who seems to like flashy play. Very old school type.
Isaac
Years ago
Woj:
Yahoo Sports: Kyrie Irving, Cavaliers agree on five-year, $90 million maximum contract extension.
Agent Jeff Wechsler on Blatt-Ty Lue in meeting: "They were incredibly impressive. That's what helped sell Kyrie on taking this deal."
maxymoo
Years ago
"They were incredibly impressive. That's what helped sell Kyrie on taking this deal."
Ummmm I guessing the 90 mill may of helped sell it too.
Beantown
Years ago
Its hard not to look impressive when you're offering someone $90mill!!!
This is why Cleveland will never win anything. They have to drive a harder bargain, instead of bidding against themselves. Irving has in no way proved that he can lead the Cavs to playoff success and until he does, is definitely not worth the max.
They need to do what good GMs like Danny Ainge do: put an offer on the table behind the scenes that reflects the players worth to the team and if they think they're worth more then let them go prove it as a restricted FA. Then decide if its worth matching to keep the player.
GMs have to be way more cut-throat under the new CBA, or they just won't be able to put enough talent on the floor to compete for a championship.
MACDUB
Years ago
Kyrie seemed pretty happy to sign a max.
Pictures/videos making the rounds on the net showing him visibly intoxicated at 5am.
This sums up Kyrie perfectly IMO.
Enchanted with his own personal achievement - celebrating signing a max deal??
If I signed a piece of paper saying I get to have 90 million dollars (thats a million dollars, ninety times), in return for playing basketball (flying around in planes, working out, playing basketball), for the next five years, I would be visibly intoxicated at 5am.
Not sure that proves that he isn't team-oriented.
MACDUB
Years ago
Just adds to all the other things that show he isn't team orientated - doesn't play defence, not a leader, has disagreements with teammates e.g. the Waiters scenario.
Isaac
Years ago
It's the off-season. I would be drunk at 5am after getting that sort of news too.
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