I think the chinese government pick up the tab for the costs for this series plus games involving the national team gets big ratings back home so probably helping their locals know who our players are.

So we sell our identity then? also there is no Chinese writing on the Chinese team

the chinese writings mean Perth West Australia

good job! for the refrees, lol

damn shame the referees，three mouses' poorly acting mess the game up

The china dog who tried to blatantly trip Rhys Martin should be banned from fiba for a year! Could if easily caused major injury if had of tripped him! Absolutely disgraceful if I was on the court I would of popped him fair in his face

Was at the game tonight

It was just an all round dirty game from the Chinese, absolutely disgusting.

Their coach was on the court pushing the refs and they were too scared to get him out despite giving him 2 techs.

That stupid player that tried to trip Martin walked to the bench with his arms in the air like he didn't know what he did wrong, horrible.

When Rhys Martin supposedly injured one of their guards he got up and gave him a signal saying he did it deliberately, which he didn't and looked like a flop.

China probably should be forced to forfeit this series immediately on the back of this showing tonight, it was appalling. These and many other incidents absolutely horrified me with how much they got away with.

The Chinese basketball federation or whatever they call themselves need to take a good hard look at themselves because what they were doing tonight was complete bullshit.


Not a bad game to watch though, great atmosphere surprisingly

can you fucking say china was dirty?!!!
your fucking dirty Australian dog

The chinese players & coach disgraced themselves tonight.

I've never seen a coach get kicked out of a game and refuse to leave before and that was over him protesting that dirty chinese player trying to trip Martin up three times on the same drive.

Just appalling behaviour.

Hehehehehe or whatever the hell it is, that was so dirty wasn't it. And not called a foul. And Andrej Lemanis was on the court physically abusing the umpires and refusing to leave the game and his little bitch assistants were crying on the sideline. China played the game respectively and well mannered and won the game

NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT

Steve I completely agree with you. He should have been forced to leave by some sort of security, I am so pissed off at that. I'm a pissed off Australian fan, but I'm proud to be an Australian fan

Martin deserves an honor in WWE

China vs Aus=5 vs 8, shame on you!

gif to yall

http://7citieswitness.com/gif-larry-sanders-gives-all-three-refs-a-thumbs-up-after-being-ejected/

The Chinese should have just flopped as that is what Perth fans are use to and expect.

I thought a fair few calls went against China early, and they had a bit of my sympathy. I thought the Martin play was pretty pathetic, and reasonably called a block (did the offensive player have time to stop or change direction? Not really, because who the hell expects someone to try and take a charge when you don't have the ball, are in the back-court, and doing nothing other than making your way from one end to the other?). Also thought the Wortho shoulder should have been called unsportsmanlike - it was a play against a player without the ball, behind a fast break where Australia had a numbers disadvantage.

But I couldn't understand how the scuffle resulted in a tech against Australia, I thought for sure that was a double, play on, and that would have been generous to China. And the attempted tripping followed by the coach refusing to leave after a double tech was absolutely appalling. I hope FIBA takes action on that, and suspends the Chinese coach for at least a game, probably more like 3.

I thought there were some nasty plays on both sides, and as Kr said above, also some really good in-your-face D from both sides. But when it came down to it, Australia accepted the calls, while China whinged, cried, and ultimately flat-out refused to play by the rules. I don't consider myself particularly patriotic, but I was damn glad to be on the Aussie side at that point.

Why are the teams getting frustrated? The interpretation of the rules!

NBL went soft this year, CBA allow heavy contact. The refs are trying to call something in between but the players on both sides are struggling with this as they have just come off full seasons playing with different interpretations.

Officiating around the world needs to be on the same page. They are not even close from league to league right now. This has a major impact on international play.

Oh My God, how in any were the Boomers worse than the Chinese? Stop being ridiculous

Let's just see how the chinese fans post after games 3 and 4..... they complain about our refs....what for home cooking chinese style!!! Now that's just blatant cheating

XY, I think, and I'm not at all claiming to be sure, but I believe what happened was that while the shooter was taking the first free throw, one of the refs blew his whistle to T up the coach. The shooter made a bit of a fuss about the distraction, so that free throw was re-taken. So there were only four free throws given as penalties; one was just taken twice. That was the best I could figure at the time, anyway.

Australia: 43 free throws
China: 22 free throws
You call it fair game???
Shame on you!!!!

Half of those 43 were from Technicals from your stupid coach

I just go back to the comment at start of thread "Who told the refs they where the stars of the show" Completely ruined the game with poor officiating Allowing the game to get rough by the no calls.

Not a very professionally run couple of days. Since when does an officials wear their Sunday Arvo Multicolour woolie jumper and approach an overseas visiting coach to eject him from the stadium.... He probably thought she was the tea person…. Have some sort of officiating clothing at least….. As for the game… Officiating should have managed the game from the get go in Game 1 and set the tone and be consistent. Just looked Mickey Mouse in so many ways….

"Australia: 43 free throws
China: 22 free throws
You call it fair game???
Shame on you!!!!"

My guess is you looked at the stats hoping there'd be a huge disparity in the foul count, but when you saw China only had two more fouls than Australia you jumped on the free throw stats.

As others have said the technicals bumped up the number of free throws a fair bit.

Do you think the attitude of the coaching staff, which in turn filters through to the players' attitude, might be one of the reasons China has been such an under-performing nation on the international stage?

GWB if the chinese played like a UFC match why was the not a heap more fouls against them ? As i said poor officiating.

I do believe the Chinese was leading the most of game 1. so they are not that far behind

Yet got flogged in Game 2 when both teams had had a chance to scout each other.

Not much different to last years tournament. Aussie won here and China over there. Was rough and dodgy reffing then too.... Same comments about the jerseys and how if you want to encourage new fans to get on board and follow basketball they have to be able to identify with who they are watching….. Another missed opportunity with FTA to advertise to the wider market (not Facebook and web fans of basketball already) and make it professionally run please !!!! Commentary, reffing and officials….. if I wasn't a basketball fan and used to lack of …….. I would have turned it off especially after the ref had no control of he game and a coach was not ejected.. Absolutely laughable ……… Bowing to the money I guess…… Even the website has not links that I could find to results, stats, player info and so on… All about booking a seat, flight and accommodation to it….. So glad I didn't buy into that one...

I think you'll find that all the referees are FIBA badged officials and not just 3 guys who won a competition by posting on a forum.

International basketball is usually officiated a lot different than domestic leagues. Wait until the World Champs.... China will have to wait a few more years for that.

Australia should be asking for Security in ...….. Many players who would not play there again after incidents that made them feel unsafe... This seems like a less controlled team and Coaching group than last year and if certain Aussie players persist in buying in to it there may be another event that has potential to explode……. Not as easy in some countries to bring it under control…….

After fan attack on referee, Zhejiang women banned from playing in home city for one year
January 31, 2013Basketball With Chinese Characteristics, Women's Chinese Basketball Association (WCBA)
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At NiuBBall, we don't often comment on the problems with the officiating inside of Chinese basketball. Actually on second thought, yeah we do.

However, this may be the first time where we have commented on fans seeking to physically assault an officiating crew after a game.

This article should focus on the big showdown between star foreign imports Maya Moore and Elizabeth Cambage as their respective Shanxi Flame and Zhejiang Golden Bull teams took on one another in Game 1 of the Women’s Chinese Basketball Association Finals Tuesday night.

However, the real action came after the final buzzer.

In what turned out to be two great individual performances by the US and Australian stars (Moore scored 53 points and grabbed 13 rebounds, while Cambage scored 38) and an eventual 96-92 victory by Shanxi that put them one game up in the series, once again it was the officiating that was put in the spotlight in the newspapers and sports channels around the country.

Believing that the referees were showing favoritism towards Moore and her Flame teammates throughout the game (apparently Zhejiang was assessed with one too many foul calls), a group of fans thought it would be a good idea to storm the court after the game to let them know their feelings on the matter. But instead of simply voicing their displeasure, these fans let their fists do the talking as the three officials narrowly escaped to the dressing room. The situation was so intense that the angry mob had to be held back by security on hand at the arena.




The fiasco forced a spokesman for the Zhejiang team to make a public apology and Cambage took to Twitter after the game to share her unusual experience.

Though both fan suspicion of shady officiating and post-game on-court conformations are not new to Chinese basketball (most recently in 2011, a journalist went onto the court to accost a referee after a particularly controversial men’s playoff game between Beijing and Xinjiang), physical violence towards an official — at least on as big of a stage as the finals — is.

In response, the Chinese Basketball Association, which governs both the men’s and women’s league, handed down one of the harsher penalties in recent memory today: Zhejiang will be banned from playing home games in their home city of Yiwu for one year, including any additional games in their series against Shanxi.

The WCBA implements a 1-2-2 format for their best-of-five series. Games 2 and 3 will be played at Shanxi and if necessary, Games 4 and 5 will be played back in Zhejiang in their new city. Both the city and stadium must be approved by the league by February 4.

This recent incident only draws more scrutiny onto the competency of officiating at all levels in Chinese basketball, which as been under the microscope this season, particularly in the men’s league. Many have put forward suggestions, including this writer, who proposed several on another site. Yet basketball fans in China are still waiting for a meaningful and effective response from the league.

This is not to say that those "fans" were right, however. Attacking officials under any circumstances, no matter how deplorable the calls, is totally wrong and ruins the integrity of the game. More troubling though, was how they were able to get such easy access to the court with security supposedly tasked with guaranteeing the safety of players, coaches and referees. Hopefully in the following games in the best-of-five series more attention will be focused on the performances of the players on the court and not the shenanigans afterwards.

Game 2 will be played on Thursday night at Shanxi.

Jon Pastuszek also contributed to this report.

Georgetown Brawl Not First For China
By Sarah Kogod | Thursday, Aug 18, 2011 | Updated 6:20 PM EDTView Comments () | Email | Print




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BEIJING - AUGUST 18: Yao Ming #13 of China moves against the defense of Sofoklis Schortsanitis #14 of Greece during the preliminaries at the Wukesong Indoor Stadium on Day 10 of the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games on August 18, 2008 in Beijing, China. Australia won 106-75. (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)


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On Thursday, an exhibition game in China was the scene of an intense brawl between Georgetown and their Chinese opponents. While the Hoyas do not have a history of bad behavior, in-game violence is a problem that the Chinese Basketball Association has faced for years.

In 2005, a brawl broke out in the final minutes of a game against Puerto Rico in Beijing after two Chinese players launched themselves off of the bench to go after the Puerto Rican players. The clash was spurred by a foul against current Wizards player Yi Jianlian, who was playing for Beijing at the time.

An account of that fight in the New York Times showed that while the players, including Yi, were at the center of the brawl, fans "hurled abuse along with drinks, plastic bottles, yogurt and popcorn at the Puerto Rican team as it left the court."

In 2007, the fans became the aggressors during a CBA game, hurling cups and bottles at the court after a questionable call. Coincidentally, Yi was on the roster for one of the teams involved, although not present at that particular game.

The trend continued later that year, when rowdy fans in Zhejiang attacked a visiting team bus and teams from Xinjiang and Shanxi were fined after their fans threw bottles and other objects onto the court. Min Lulei, then coach of the Beijing Ducks, told the AFP that this had become common fan behavior.

"This kind of thing is very normal. The CBA has been going on for some time, even the NBA which is older, still has this kind of problem," Min said at the time. "Even if we want to change this, we still won't be able to avoid this kind of problem."

Outside of the growing fan violence, the national team prepped for the 2008 Beijing Olympics with a goal of wanting to see its players become more physical.

Many people, including former NBA star Yao Ming, felt that Chinese “non-contact style prevalent in the China Basketball Association was producing players who were not tough enough for the international game." The solution for the CBA: allow players to be more physical going into the 2008-09 season.

"After the Olympics, we realized that unless we strengthened our physical presence, Chinese basketball would not be able to compete with the world's best," CBA chief Liu Xiaonong said at the time.

Unfortunately, CBA fans missed that memo. According to ESPN, a record $140,500 (960,000 yuan) in fines were assessed during that first season under the new playing style, some of that imposed on teams for crowd trouble.

"Some [teams] have been punished for their misbehaving fans, who were outraged partly because they did not understand the new standards the referees must enforce," Liu explained of the fines. "The league has not done a good enough job in getting the message about physicality out."

But ultimately, hot-headed fans are not to blame for the CBA's persistent problem with violence. The league seems to lack control over its own teams, uncharacteristic of a culture known for its strong discipline.

During a CBA finals game in April 2010, two players got into a tussle under the basket, ending with a head butt and punches thrown. The teams were fined, but the players were not suspended.

In October 2010, a fight broke out during an exhibition game between the Chinese national team and Brazil, which included Chinese players kicking and punching their opponents. According to a Wall Street Journal account, the game was called when the Chinese players attacked the Brazilians as they headed back to the visiting locker room. A number of players and coaches received fines and the team was temporarily suspended from training as a result of the fray, but no game suspensions were given by the CBA.



In December 2010, FIBA -- basketball’s world governing body -- decided to take matters into its own hands by suspending China’s national team coach and three players, as well as banning three of China’s referees for one year. There were no suspensions or fines placed on Brazil, making a clear statement as to which side was to blame for the rampage.

Although they have yet to issue one for Thursday's incident, the CBA has issued an apology for the behavior of its players after each of the past altercations.

But with violence entrenched in Chinese basketball and brutal assaults finding their way into friendly exhibitions, apologies don’t go very far.

Wortho is a quality experienced player but he just makes some bone headed decisions. He had a very poor nbl season by his standards also. I expect him to be in the squad of 16 and probably squeeze into the final 12

Sounds like the Chinese are...dare I say it...butt hurt.

But I am a believer when you commit to being an active participant in a game, you comply with the rules of that game.

Especially if you are coaching.

So when you cop a second technical foul - as the Chinese coach did – the rules say you leave.

You don't hang around and play the hard-done-by card, the I-don’t-understand card or the throw-my-hands-in-the-air-and-despair card.

That’s BS, whether you are pulling the stunt here, in China or in Bulgaria.

All it achieves is to make a mockery of the contest and, worse, by example tell your players it is, in fact, OK to carry on as if you are being victimised and to disregard the local authority.

Like I said, BS.

Some cultural observations: The Chinese team has little concept of sportsmanship or fair play. This is derived from mainland Chinese cultural attitudes. They don't respect rules or procedures. It is culturally accepted to find ways around the rules. Cheat, lie, bribe. With their growth in power, they feel entitled.

This attitude is even reflected on the world political stage. They bully every nation around them and expect to get what they want. The recent territorial disputes in the South China Sea are evidence of this.

The behaviour of the Chinese coach was disgraceful, as was the player who tried to trip Martin. Notice these unsportsmanlike acts happen when things don't go their way. It's the Chinese dummy-spit.

Does he have a European passport, because small Aussie guards don't usually end up as imports over there, not in high paying competitions anyway.