Draws not out yet is it?

Anyone thought that the kids they have one year are just less talented. The kids are not porns in the coaches and observers egotistical game......

NSW will send a strong Norths 18 men team

I believe that both Penrith and Bankstown in the 16 boys will go. both should be relativley competative

14Men I'm assuming Norths will send their group who are decent. and may get a win or two. as well as a young comets team who may struggle

12's i would imagine comets and hills who are head and shoulders above rest of the league, both should compete

For the Boys:

U12s. Sturt, South, Woodville, Southern
U14s. Sturt, Centrals, Woodville, Forestville
U16s. Sturt, Centrals, Southern, Norwood
U18s. Sturt, Norwood, Forestville, West

Girls:

U12s. Sturt, Forestville, Eastern, Southern
U14s. Forestville, Eastern, Southern, West
U16s. Sturt, Southern, Eastern, Forestville
U18s. Sturt, Forestville, Eastern, North

PS: Assuming all those teams nominated.

SA only got 3 bids in some grades last year - I wouldn't be booking anything yet if I came 4th (esp. if 14 Boys and Girls)...

Anyone know who actually qualified out of NSW

Clubs know if they made Classics.They have been billed for their teams this week.

Heard Forestville Div 2 girls going ? Is that possible ?

U12 that is

no.

Classics aren't available for Div 2 teams.

Norths 14m, 14w, 16w, 18m, 18w are all going

There's usually a camp on the long weekend, so I reckon White probably won't be available for either.

Are you sure they are going to classics or just the nunawading tournament that is held at the same time?

going in some shape or form to something in melbourne.

Re NSW

Hornsby is sending 12W, 14M and 16 W. Most entries ever for the club who went for first time two years ago.

Anon, Classics is an invitation-only tourney for elite Div 1 teams.

Nunawading is more your regular tournament where anyone can nominate in a range of ability grades.

In NSW 14m u will have no: 1 Norths and 2nd comets, 16m no: 1 Penrith and 2nd Bankstown and 18m Nrths 1 and not sure of second team. Illawarra from NSW country would probably win classic in both 16m and 18m if they went. They both will win NSW extremely easy. No metro teams will come close in 16's

Illawarra would win Classic in 16s and 18s? Bahahaha!!

Are Forestvilles 14 boys going?

Illawarra would win Classic in 16s and 18s? Bahahaha!!
I concur, Bahahaha!!

16w VJBL
Dandenong
Melbourne
Knox
Sandringham
Bulleen
Hawthorn
Diamond Valley
Altona

Forestville boys finished fourth so would think so ?

Southern 14 girls finished 4th and didn't get offered.

Anyone know who did? Usually the SA invites are posted on the Classic website a few days after State Champs.

I agree Illawarra would win classic in 18's but not 16's.

hahahahaha Illawarra would not come close to winning U18 classics. they aren't even the best in NSW. Norths, Newcastle and Gosford are all better teams IMO.

anon, you keep asking and still you are not getting the bites you want. Sorry Know didn't work out for you.

if it was clarified, why would people be listing 8 VJBL teams then?

How did the VJBL teams finish up? Who made Top 7 in each?

Is it true that there are challenge matches happening this Friday night in Melbourne for places in the Classic?

Has always been the rule

Could argue lots of things like why reserve a spot for a Vic country team? But on balance it all seems ok, the qualification rules are set down and if you don't win enough games to get there you most likely don't deserve to be there.

You list 8 in 18VC girls because Sth Pen (who won the Country cup) have to qualify via VJBL ladder as they play in that comp.

The 18VC girls challenge game is between the two teams that finished 5th in their respective conferences.

In terms of qualifying, everyone knows the rules and the fact that there will be playoffs if there are only 7 teams or 9 teams required.

If they'd beaten a team and on same points they'd go in on head 2 head.

Suggest you let go, if they can't make top 8 they're lucky they're not in reserve.

I think you've all missed the point. In 18VC Girls, it seems they are taking 9 Vic teams as Sandy and Nuna both finished 5th in the respective conferences.

Both were a game behind the 4th teams and, if I remember properly they lost to the 4th teams.

Now I've missed the point.

Possibly another Country team that doesn't play VJBL due to distant?

Does anyone know where to find the list of challenge matches or who is playing in each?

B12VC - KNOX v WARRANDYTE - 7:00 SBC2
G16VC – SANDRINGHAM v DIAMOND VALLEY - 8:20 SBC2
B18VC – WERRIBEE v MCKINNON – 9:40 SBC2
G12VC – BROADMEADOWS v ELTHAM – 7:20 SBC6
G18VC – NUNAWADING v SANDRINGHAM – 8:40 SBC6

But where in the selection criteria does it talk of challenge matches?

http://www.vjbl.com.au/index.php?id=42

Thanks a lot for that, I think somewhere in this list on the classic webpage it says something http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-5008-0-0-0&sID=65252 only if the event of odd number so maybe one of the interstate teams declined so they need 9 vic teams

B18VC - WERRIBEE v MCKINNON – 9:40 SBC2

Interesting challenge game this one. Geelong couldn't get their best team on the court all season yet can beat either of them convincingly in this age group.

^anon I was at that Geel v DV game and they scored on buzzer. One ref called it good the other after buzzer. They spoke about it and waived the goal so DV won by a point. Geel also missed a heap of FT's too so could easily have beat DV in that game.

Maybe it is a bit of a surprise Traralgon made it to Classic ahead of a VC team like Geelong then?

So what everyone is saying is.....Geelong weren't good enough to qualify. Traralgon was. Pretty simple really.

Will any SA teams be good enough to compete with Vic and NSW teams?

The problem with that observation is that Sturt are not even the best side this year in any of the boys age groups. State champs results (which Sturt always hold up as the be all and end all) indicate that u12 is Woodville, u14 and u16 is Centrals, and u18 is Norwood.

One man team then are they CHOOK?

On the boys side, I think the only SA team with any serious cred to challenge this year is the Centrals U/16 Boys. Just as long as B1 and B2 (continuing tradition) get tossed in seperate games they should be fine...

Will the fixture be out after this friday and the challenge matches? Also do we know which vic teams have been given places in the tournament already?

B1 and B2? Who are they?

Think he was already working at BV.

Rules regarding selection for he Classic http://www.foxsportspulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-5008-0-0-0&sID=65252

2013 Selection criteria talks of Challenge matches.

The 2014 page

http://www.vjbl.com.au/index.php?id=42

clearly deos not

Keilor should be pissed.

Probably happened in other age groups as well.

Coach of Eltham U16 is not the Vic Metro U16 coach. Right club, wrong coach. Don't let not checking facts get in the way of a good story!

Grant Wallace coaches Eltham 16:1 boys, Rob Coulter (Vic coach) coaches U12 for Eltham.

Grant Wallace appointed to Ops Mgr at BV April 2013

Knox 18 boys declined offer because team has 5 injured players

Poor form by Knox U/18 boys. Why not give some of your other 2nd team juniors a chance to play up and experience high-quality tournament basketball?
Or will someone look bad because of the result?

I wouldn't have thought that bring a KNOX player from the 2nd side to fill in for a KNOX player from the 1st side that is injured is against the rules. More likely some Knox ego-maniac just didn't want to play if he couldn't win. Has happened with Knox before!!

Is this in reference to Knox 18 boys pulling out because they only have 5 exisitng team members of the team that actually qualified?

If so, who will fill thier spot and does anyone know why 5 are out, are they all injured?

It can't be against the rules. As mentioned above, Melbourne did it last year. It's a shame that 10 Knox kids won't get to play and improve because of the ego's of some adults there.

Yes, VERY clear. IF a player is injured, he may be replaced as long as it it cleared with the selection committee. Seems pretty simple to me - I guess Knox are trying to divert away from the fact they are denying Knox youngsters the chance to compete!

u18 Nunawading girls won their challenge game, as did u16 Sandringham so they are in, missed the other challenge game results.

Why shouldn't they be disgruntled Latrentis? Rather than giving the oppurtunity to 10 players who would represent Knox with pride at the tournament, some would rather pull out and give no-one that oppurtunity as it might be a hit to their ego! No wonder the club is held in such "regard"...

Yes Ashke, I do. If they only take (say for example) four from Knox 2, and play them with the rest of Knox 1 - these 1st team players would also get greater exposure and bigger roles (if only for the weekend) than setting up Jack White. Every game is a chance to develop players! So what if they don't win - and probably still would be competitve with some of the interstate teams.

No Latrentis - you don't get it. It is not the kids decision to play or not, it is some adult who thinks it's better not to play as their ego would take a hit by not doing as well. The kids would love the oppututnity. No wonder Knox is struggling so badly for such a big club with people like you around...