I hope they retain U'U but Im not sure if he was just replacing Muo while he sat out injured. If its possible, could they have U'U and Muo, while probably letting Burdon go? Would like to keep Burdon too, but he was so under utilised last season he may be better off at another club.

Beal is an absolute priority as is Martin and Wagstaff, but I suspect retaining Beal will be the hardest to do.

See, this is what happens when people make stuff up under anonymous usernames.

except that is a fact, go ask your illustrious GM. He knows it was said.

You don't know what was said either and you don't know anything about discussions between Marvin and Ennis. Just stick to fat-shaming some cheerleaders, at least that post showed your true colours.

Ok then........except i do know what was said , who heard it and that Marvin knows exactly what was said and to whom. You dont know much it seems.

Random posters with the inside line to Nick Marvin, okiedokie. What is Ennis going to tell people exactly, "The NBL doesn't give the MVP to importers, oh wait".

Wow, amazing that this new guy called YOLO, who has made five anti-Wildcats posts in the last day or so, miraculously happened to be standing next to Ennis when he dialed his phone to call his agent, and was then invited in to the room for the one-on-one chat between Ennis and Marvin! What are the chances?!

You may find my attitude uninspiring but I find your willingness to bullshit at the drop of a hat to be deplorable. You don't know a thing.

You want Nick's mobile, landline or home number?

^ vapid efforts my friend all you do is attack people who have more knowledge of situations than your own. Make you feel important and loved does it? not enough hugs as a kid? not enough cuddles? is that it?

No, I treat you with disdain because you make stuff up. I don't need to elaborate which one of us is carrying issues from childhood.

Keep going lads, this is good reading

So someone states a fact, you chose not to believe, so you decide it is make believe and fairy dust That is completely reasonable and rationale. Must be fun living in an amusement park 24 hours a day.

Ennis isnt coming back to Perth because Nick wont have him back. He has embarrassed himself and Perth with his antics. Believe what you want but facts are facts.

You Only Lie Often.

did mummy help you with that one?

"Congratulations must go to Perth for being an equal opportunity employer and not discriminating against any of the girls despite size or looks. It is nice to see so many full figured ladies filling out the uniforms
"

This guy.

avoidance is a sign of ineptitude

Ennis is a fool with a terrible attitude he won't be going far anytime soon, he needs to pull his head in big time if he ever thinks he will play in the NBA!

"Congratulations must go to Perth for being an equal opportunity employer and not discriminating against any of the girls despite size or looks. It is nice to see so many full figured ladies filling out the uniforms
"

THIS was a disgusting post by a butt-hurt fan of a losing team. You should apologise.

Very interesting that two of you have decided this was a negative comment.

Are you referring to the Muzz Buzz Dancers?

You tell me , you seem to know what is going on here and the one with the problem

well the latest artical from shayne hope at the west australian says it a little different

au.new.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/226510419/cat-fight-on-to-keep-title-team-together

marvin has not ruled out but it would be extremely unlikely he has said on a emmis return but would only happen from what i can understand if the NBA thing does not happen next season

and this dicounted points for loyal players seem like a great idea to keep players who want to say at 1 club just like the 90's and players would be with 1 club and not more around so much

damo said he would only leave if he was ask to leave as he calls perth home now he also said that yes he misses his family and friend over east but perth is where he like to see his career out

only person who hasn't said much is Wagstaff but i would hope that he see's he is in the longterm plan for the cats an will take over in the starting five when redhage slows down plus the ppl of perth love him and he loves the ppl of perth back

my main concern is "dolla" beal..... he was very thankful to the club that gave him a chance and thankful to perth for welcoming him with open arms gleeson has been trying to get him in to the NBL for years (from back when he was the coach of the croc's ) and could never get him in as the club/clubs couldnt or wouldnt do it. so unless he get alot better offer from somewhere else in the world guess europe T say he will be back in the cats next year

Big tom another unkown on what he would do lets hope he stays with the cats but other teams will be lining up with some big $$$$ to throw at him lets hope that with the wildcats throwing him a lifeline to play basket ball he was about to throw the game away and to say "go in to the real world" the cats called him up and has been a great player for the us and has the ability to be even greater

Drake and burdon--- I hope for drake to stay on and i think burdon will move on he will be better suited in another teams sarting five than to play second to either beal / martin or drake

for now its just the waiting game and letting the players clear there heads and ride the championship wave a little longer

and-Fuck, thought I was a bit of a tool!! and hard to understand? At least I no now I am not alone :)

Fuck, I thought I was a bit of a tool!! and hard to understand? At least I no now I am not alone :)

@YOLO,

Your comment makes no sense YOLO, I only pointed out that "Go ask Nick Marvin" as a riposte was pretty silly. Your cover of Women in Uniform happened in-between checks of the forum.

So I was just looking for some clarification; were you referring to the Muzz Buzz Dancers, or did you have a different arm of the Wildcats organisation in mind with your comment?

YOLO, just some words of advice.

The @thesituation talks in riddles and continually contradicts himself.

Nate from Perth seems pretty switched on but believes Alyen is the best umpire in the world so has no creditability.

Jake is giving advice WTF is going on here did I miss something?

And Steven just agrees with the @thesituation as cannot have his own opinion.

Jake, find one example where I have contradicted myself please.

Where did I say I agree with the situation I simply found it ironic that you were giving advice to others. For what it's worth I do occasionally agree with him but I'm more than capable of thinking for myself.

You try to argue with him (and others) and always come off second best.

That's because I talk in riddles according to Jake, or as most people called it, plain English.

As requested. Both comments are some of @thesituations best work that relate to Game 3.

@thesituation " Some of the calls that went in Perth's favour today were atrocious. As much as I'm happy to win, I'd kinda like to see a fair fight. Not to take away from Perths outstanding execution but it's silly to reward them for some of the things that did or didn't happen"


@thesituation "Jake, free throw attempts yesterday were dead even. Perth won by 34. Your stats mean nothing"

In your original comment you say how atrocious the umpiring was in Perth's favour then you go onto to try and justify the umpiring by noting the FT count was equal? I have only ever commented on the lopsided FT count in G1 - 47 - 13 which was the most lopsided in NBL GF history. I also compared this to G2 to show the small difference.

You know, Jake, you'd probably have more cachet if you just tagged me with the opinions I've actually put forth, which was that Aylen's credentials (Olympics GM appointments, Mal Cooper's endorsements) show he is most likely the best referee in Australia, and that if there is a better one, no one was able to name him.

Otherwise, you're just being deceitful.

Jake your fighting a losing battle give up while you're behind.

oh dear....

Jake, you have made numerous comments about the poor reffing in game 1, and continuously used nothing but the free throw disparity as proof. I believe you may have also suggested that a more even FT count would have seen Adelaide win game 1. My comment (number 2 in your post above) was to say that you did get an even free throw count in game 3 yet Adelaide got smashed, so your continual complaints about the free throw count in game 1 was meaningless. I wasn't justifying the umpiring at all.

So in summary, a lopsided free throw count - Perth win by 7. A completely even free throw count, which was your wish - Perth win by 35.

Let it go Jake, they will only drag you down in the swamp

Yes.

The Swamp of Truth!

@thesituation - you are not making sense? What did you mean by this @thesituation " Some of the calls that went in Perth's favour today were atrocious. As much as I'm happy to win, I'd kinda like to see a fair fight. Not to take away from Perths outstanding execution but it's silly to reward them for some of the things that did or didn't happen"

lol @steven........if you think I have come off second best in calling Redhage out as the biggest flopper in the league you are kidding yourself.

"See, this is what happens when people make stuff up under anonymous usernames."

I'll have it under my username if that helps you, Situation.

Would be nice if the thread could switch from sniping to the discussion of the stated title. What was it again, I've got forgotten in the goofing about?

Oh right, "Perth Wildcats 2015 season".

Yep, we'll probably field a team for the 14-15 season, why not.

So back to the OP,
Staying:
Hire
Knight
Redhage
Muo

Going:
Ennis
U'u

Not sure:
Beal(hopefully stays)
Martin (see Beal)
Jervis
Burdon
Wagstaff

Would any other team take Redhage?

Given that he is 33 and under contract for two more seasons does it really matter.

Cairns might.

(2/20 or 29 days)

@Jack,

I'd say most teams would take Redhage; let's not beat around the bush here, he flops, but so do a lot of players on all teams, and GMs/Coaches don't get precious about it unless they're trying to influence refs pre-game. Let's not pretend they'd be looking at anything other than the fact he can play great on both sides of the ball and is a very determined sort of player. Except for his age, which is where the real problem would come in for teams, since with his history he may be close to bringing his career to a close.

Would have to balance the long-term opportunity cost with the short-term benefit of having someone who can sink those bizarre shots that he makes his stock in trade.

^^^ I would prefer U'u to stay over burdon but i dont think he would be content playing limited minutes. Martin and wagstaff wont be going anywhere. I hope jervis stays. Beal has been quoted as saying that he loves it in perth so if the money is right he could be the next long term import player for the cats

Jervis is contracted isn't he?

I think Jervis is out of contract.

One of the benefits for the NBL and the Wildcats is that the championship will hopefully bed down the new supporters that have come in since Perth Arena's opening. Hopefully a lot of attendees converted into further members as well.

Just checked - you are correct Tommy is uncontracted

What am I missing on U'u? Just not sure why you'd want him to stay. I saw mostly bumbling around from him.

U'u....lol

U'u was only an injury replacement for Muo.

I have not seen any updates on Muo either. The fact he has been injured for so long does not work in his favor either. Sometimes players like that are cut because they start to represent more of a long term risk than they are worth.

Slightly off topic (because hey most of the responders seem to have been)

Are NBL teams audited each year? With the close to the wall issue with some clubs, I think some effort by the NBL should go into probing these clubs financially. We need a solid league which means we need teams to be financially viable. Its just not good for the league to have teams sometimes HIDING their true financial state (akin to what Greece and some countries did to actually join the EU)

Burdon has at least looked capable as a 9th or 10th man from what I've seen. U'u has pretty very average.

Can't see Burdon starting anywhere, but worth keeping in mind that soon it's possible we'll have 20 more starting roles in the NBL. Bench players like Hire, Wagstaff and Jervis could pick up bigger minutes elsewhere pretty easily.

Muo is on contract and is on track with his rehab for the Achilles.
U'u was his direct replacement. He is keen to return but is realistic that it's unlikely due to Muo. This is from discussion with him today at Cats perth city reception.

Wagstaff also does want to return but is hoping for the loyalty points idea to be reinstated, so that it makes it possible.

The biggest issue will be the salary cap, but Ennis going will help that.

I don't see the salary cap being the issue I think it's the stupid points cap. Jervis will definitely increase in value.

I think the Cats will want to keep Jervis. Hes a good backup for Knight and a Basketball team ideally wants to rotate it's centres.

Given that Ennis's entire salary would presumably come off the books and not be replaced by another player (since his replacement will be a cap-exempt marquee), I can't see the salary cap being an issue. Plenty of room for other contracts to expand into.

Be interesting to see what happens with the points cap; that'd be the main issue.

I hope Wagstaff does stay but if he moves on then look at someone like Majok Majok to replace him.

The points will be a major issue for Perth with Jervis especially.
Salary shouldn't be too bad with Ennis leaving and especially if the marquee player comes in.
Think it will be either Wagstaff or Jervis that goes sadly.

Quality back up centres are hard to find I would keep Jervis for that reason. Don't want to end up with someone like Ben Allen.

Isaac, IMHO U'u has done much more than Burdon this season. He is a capable back up ball handler and has hit the open shot when necessary. Burdon on the other hand has apart from his GF cameo looked as streaky a shooter as Bartlett and Williamson before him. When his shot is off he doesn't add anything to the team.

Both have seen limited minutes over the season.

Burdon is also 5 years older than U'u which counts against him.

This team won't stay together, won't be under points cap. I would think

Beal 10
Redhage 9
Martin 10
Ennis not staying
Knight 9
Wagstaff 8
Hire 7
Jervis 7

That 60 points from 7 players already

Ennis might not be staying, but he'll be replaced by another 10-pointer anyway so it's pretty irrelevant.

Is 7 reasonable for Jervis? He wasn't all that convincing much of the second half of the season.

Regardless, there will be loyalty discounts next season, so Redhage, Wagstaff and Martin are likely to come down a bit.

2 imports = 20.
Muo 3
Redhage 10
Knight 10
Hire 6
total of 49. Based on this season only and not taking into account next years ratings or loyalty discounts.
My guess is Jervis will be a 5 at most.

Redhage & Knight 9 or 10? They are 8 at best.
Jervis is a 4 or 5.
Martin 10 (12 if they'd allow it :) )
Wagstaff 7
Hire 6

Knight 10
Hire 6
Martin 9
Redhage 10
Muo 3
Import 10
Import 10

Leaves 12 points for 3 players and Jervis will go up from 3 to at least 5 I reckon.
I think the Wildcats will have to choose Jervis or Wagstaff.
Would bring U'u back and bring in one other player. Would look to bring Beal back

Points system devalues the league. Redhage has been with the Cats for about 8 or 9 seasons and hes a 9, there should be discounts for loyalty eg 1 point for every 4 years of service, something like that.

There will be loyalty discounts next season.

Jervis I would have thought would be a priority signing (after Beal and Martin).

Jervis is the Knight Insurance policy that they KNOW they will make a claim on.

If its not the Calf again, it will be another Concussion.

And Knight cannot play 30 mins / game for a season, the Cats must know his limitations by now.

Without Knight and Jervis, Wildcats have had to rely on Wagstaff in the past.

I have always thought Wagstaff may want to go, he is capable of starting but there is Redhage that keeps on going. Tough call for Jesse to make, also now with 2 rings perhaps money becomes forefront.

Fun fact from today's celebration in the city.

DP Damian Scott is like a pretty-boy version of Wagstaff.

And if you've seen Wagstaff lately, that's a hell of an achievement.

Let it be known and understood that at the start of 2013/14 season Redhage signed a 3 year deal as a 10. Regardless of if we believe him to be a 8 or 9, he is still a 10.

As for this marquee signing rule that we know has to be implemented by Wildcats; if your a 10 then you should be both highly sought after and well paid.

I can't wait to see Muo and hopefully the team stays together as much as possible!

Well said proud, glad to see a Perth fan sticking to reality and not trying to fudge the numbers ;)

Currently the Wildcats have locked in:
Muo [3]
Hire [6]
Redhage [10]
Knight [10]

Jervis: 5? (6 max)
Wagstaff: 9 (think this is overpriced, surely just an 8?)
Martin: 10
U'u: 3?
Import: 10
Import: 10

So that's 76pts for 10 players... Actually, how did they fit that in the cap this season? Both Jervis and Burdon would have had to be 1pt players? Jervis might be passable, but not Burdon... Hmmm...

Anyways... next season... It all depends on the details on this proposed loyalty scheme, as Knight, Wagstaff & Damo have all just finished their 5th season with the Wildcats, Redhage his 9th, so all depending on the minimum, you'd say at least 5 or 6 seasons would score some discount surely, however Knight and Redhage have already locked in at 10pts, and I don't think those details should change, but if 5 is teh cut off, having both Damo and Wagstaff as eligible, that might save them a few points, which could work in definitely their favour...

Jervis and Burdon were both one point. Why wouldn't they be?

The Wildcats are going to struggle big time to keep that team together. The only way they can do it IMO is to not have a second import which is stupid.

I think they should lose Wagstaff and go with

Martin
Beal
Import
Redhage
Knight

U'U
Muo
Hire
Someone
Jervis

I think wagstaff would be awesome at cairns..just wot we need..

Wagstaff & Vukona on the same team , how about that?

Perth Will be strong again next season
even without Ennis
Dollar Beal has to stay

When do you think we will see some signings, as Nick Marvin has now gone to the US. Surely the wildcats must have an idea

Seems Jervis is looking to become a Tiger. Gone on a trip to MEL

So Martin has got a slight injury don't you think we need a back up especially with Mao only just back. U'u ?

All quiet on the Wildcats front we need some news to get us away from United, strange choice of name!

They seem to have got a lot of memberships without having a full squad. Wow

Not really. They're around 2,000 lower than they were at the end of last season. Given they're coming off a championship, that's actually pretty low I'd have thought.

Captains Club is sold out, this time last year we got 2 extra tickets no probs.

Wonder when they will announce so more players been a bit quiet and would have thought they would have done so to get to the magic 10000

Hopefully so new news soon, with them being in Orlando etc