Unfortunately the more I watch it the worse it looks. Could be a series changer.

Flopper!

Whether Ervin was provoked or not it was stupid on his part.

I'm glad someone did it.

Ervin just needs to use the Ennis defence of I was trying to knee someone else

Pretty silly by Ervin. Deserves to miss the next game as you need to rub that sort off stuff out. Hopefully we can win without him

Why? Is Goulding that objectionable? Doesn't sulk much, works hard to escape his man, entertains the league. Would be loads of players I find more annoying.

Yes Murray, it's all Perth's fault. Hope you can get a couple of people along to game 3

guess we will see if the nbl has balls or doesn't. if its ennis; lets part the sea and make sure he is looked after. if its anyone else, lets make it hard.

Haha it's funny watching fans of playoff teams get real on edge...my team didn't make it and I'm perfectly content right now.

Content with not making the playoffs? That's a bit sad.

WTF how did I say it's Perths fault

Perth fans trying to make something that has nothing to do with them about Perth

Idiotic

Youtube footage anyone?

Isaac - I think it is tall poppy syndrome
Can't believe people used to say they hated Gaze - you could call his defence rubbish but otherwise as a person & basketballer - how could you not like/respect/admire him?
Go Goulding - superstar !! Poor loser Gary Ervin - hell of a player but that was poor form - rub him out

" I'm glad someone did it"
Classy comment NOT.
Ervin has let his team down

Sorry Murray, I thought you were the one that brought Ennis into it...by the way, when was Ennis ever accused of kneeing anyone?

Or when did Ennis say that he was trying to his someone else?

*hit

bg, I've accepted it, but life goes on. Is three weeks not enough time to get over your team not making playoffs?

There's a difference between that and being content with not making playoffs.

Children do some research into how Ennis' punch charge got thrown out

Haha dance, puppets...dance!

Murray, why don't you elaborate? He was charged with attempted striking. Who he did or didn't attempt to strike is irrelevant.

Statsheet, you've just admitted to being a troll. Well done.

Goulding did fall like a sack of potatos mayble overselling it. Wasn't really a quick hard knee but Ervin probably should get a game for that but considering everyone has gotten off lightly this year... a suspended 1 game suspension? Sixers did play well when Ervin was out with injury so its not the end of the world.
Game 3 will be huge.... hopefully people come support the team.

Situation, the difference between me and a troll is that I'm not inciting any of this back and forth. Get a clue, big fella.

Goulding always falls and flails like an idiot, but there was enough malice from Ervin to be punished.

Anyone got any precedent for knees to the groin?

Nope, you're just jumping in to stir the pot. That's cool, you're not very good at it, just don't complain when you perceive others are doing it to you.

Gary could have at least bought him some flowers...... a gentleman never goes directly to second base........

The onus is on you to not take that personally, because it was simply a general comment.

You're jumping at the chance for an argument yet again...must be that playoff edginess kicking in.

Hahaha good call, Podge. I really do think Gary is in trouble though :(

Gary Ervin won't be in Adelaide next year

Ervin indicated to the ref very animatedly that he was reacting to something Goulding had done (on a previous play?) but while that might give backstory, it's no excuse. Gibson's unsportsmanlike on Wortho was a better example in the previous game of a hard hit unlikely to get a suspension.

I can see Ervin getting a one game suspension. At least Adelaide have decent coverage in their guard ranks. Would be less keen to lose either of Gibbo or DJ.

Anyone got any footage

his a dog!!! and keeps barking!!! Go the tigers and every one blamed ennis? Ervin is a bitch

Isaac, why would he get a game, I have seen punches and fights over the last two years without a single suspension? Why would the nbl start now, pathetic if they do.

As much as it doesn't surprise me if goulding did provoke something.. it doesn't take much contact in that region for a man to go down. So to say goulding was flopping is ridiculous.
The NBL have no balls excuse the pun so i dont expect any suspensions especially for a semi final game

If it was on any other player I would say Ervin is out for a game at least but Goulding is the biggest actor in the league. The amount of times he throws his head back asking for a foul while he is a foot away from anyone shows that. I think they will need to look for definite contact before deciding.

Pretty cheap shot by Erving. He did gesture to the refs that he copped an elbow to the face but I couldn't see anything. Either way unless it was an immediate provoked reaction which I doubt judging on the footage shown he should take a game. Hopefully the sixers can still get up on Tuesday without him! Be good to see a better crowd out.

Goulding offense was incredible from the 2nd quarter on but especially in the 4th quarter. very entertaining player and would be a useful SG for the boomers, given that despite their considerable talent, besides patty most of the team struggle or are reluctant to create their own shot, a skill which Goulding is beginning to master, although his defensive abilities are questionable.

Ah, the irony of Statsheet Stuffer telling another poster to get a clue.

"knee shove"
Yeah, and Joey's was a closed-fisted push.

Seriously, people?

A knee shove?

Oh my giddy aunt.

What Ervin did was extremely childish.. how hard he hit doesn't matter... he acted out like a wanker and left himself open to punishment. He probably deserves suspension but I really hope its just a fine. I am not sure the 36ers without ervin will get it over the tigers, I know they certainly wouldn't beat Perth that way. Hope he got scolded by the team and coach after.

Adelaide = dumbasses!

Totally 100% agree with GWB.

If Goulding does something to provoke him, I can't see much in the lead-up on NBL.TV. KB doesn't seem too impressed when Ervin goes to the bench. Just not sure how Gary thought he was going to get away with that at all?!

GWB,

Good analysis and I agree.

Except that I think the 36ers can be better without Ervin.

Obviously, more times than not the team will be better with him.

But sometimes he can shoot the 36ers out of the game/try to do too much.

Gibbo has composure and experience -- something which you need in an elimination game.

Thanks anon#565 Stuffer, I appreciate your kind words.

Whatever you do, don't respond to anything I've said that makes your eyes roll - just take a potshot anonymously so we know that you really mean it.

I don't HAVE to be right. I just happen to be often. A lot people say things that are wrong, they know they're wrong, yet they still say them. I don't. Not my problem.

Just over three minutes to go in the game I think.

It is on YouTube...posted by Auryn McMillan. That's a strange step.

The incident took place on the 4 minute mark after Walker's Trey.

I had a lot of respect for Ervin, not after that play.

Not only was it unsportsmanlike, but it really cost the team in the game and likely after the game.

With Gibbo less than 100% this could really be costly.

The footage is so clear, there is no denying the act.

The you tube video looks pretty average. Can't see Goulding doing anything wrong.

I thought it was a joke when the @thesituation said the video was posted by a Tigers player. This guy needs to be ruled out for Tuesdays game as well.

At this stage with a short turn around of having to make an informed decision before Tuesday all I can see is a great big fine being slapped on the player/club.

A big fine is what, a thousand bucks?

Also the way Ervin has been playing of late, the team is a lot better with him on the court. Shooting more efficiently and getting others involved more. Plus his outside shot is really spacing defences more than earlier in the season.

I'd like to add, if your gonna knee someone in the nuts during a televised sports game make it count. That knee looked like a scare tactic not an intention to strike.

I wasn't aware that MacMillan allegedly posted footage on YouTube if that's true is that against the rules?

I don't think the league has a clearly defined social media policy. If they do, they almost NEVER enforce it.

Goulding immediately got up smiling and Ervin copped a Tech Foul. Considering there was no real damage done, how much more does the NBL have to do to make a point. Crime committed, penalty paid, end of matter.

Razzie...

If you are going to scare someone / make them flinch, it is customary that they are actually looking.

Goulding was defending the inbound.

Please watch the footage before talking shit.

EC....so disciplinary action should only be taken when there is lasting damage?

Never mind....what else should I expect from a class of supporters that defended the Wright punch?

considering they are on NBL wages maybe Gaz can put on a sausage sizzle free of charge for the NBL.

Thanks situation. I doubt the league enforces many policies.

I've watched it, IMO really not much in it. Don't get too upset, life is challenging when you're upset.

I call dirty on Ervin, it was cheap shot. But come on if your gonna lay one in, make it really count. :P

I'm just waiting for the AndTheFoul.net reenactment that'll clear the air. Perhaps get Sports Science involved? If not, then give Adam Savage from Myth Busters a call before he leaves Australia.

Joey Wrights reaction to Ervin says it all really

Marcus, disciplinary action was taken on court today. A Tech foul plus Joey benched him.

EC, I see what you're saying. I don't know if the NBL can actually make a ruling based on him being benched (or what Joey would have done if it happened in the first quarter) but I think Joey dragging him was a very wise move.

^ I guess some people were just raised differently.

Sorry Situation...I meant EC.

I can't work out why he wasn't ejected. If the refs saw it, what reason could they possibly have not to?

Maybe the NBL was hoping Ervin would reject himself? You know just keep things laid back...

*eject

I've just had a good look at the footage of the incident and replayed it about 10 times. A player putting out a knee happens all the time and is only penalized with a foul. What is the big deal here, is it Goulding's man parts that was hit that makes it a big deal? If so, have a good look at the footage of the incident and tell me you can see where Ervin's knee landed. It only shows the incident from the back of Ervin, he could have just hit Goulding's knee for all you can see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zC1ms4e2oE

Have a good look and be the judge yourselves. It clearly shows Ervin's knee bending only towards Goulding with his foot barely lifting off the ground. If you know how short Ervin is, it would be impossible for his knee to reach Goulding's Groin from that position.

Don't look at the incident with emotion, look at it with objectivity.

Break out a fresh batch of popcorn this could go on all night! What a great read!

It's what he meant to do, not the force he did it. Ervin is a wanker hard!! Didn't mind adelaide until u guyz got ervin! He is a bitch and a dog! And u cant dought who started it in perth?

Yeah, I'd love to know what gets you ejected if kneeing a man in the crotch doesn't qualify. Think the ref's bottled that.

If you believe EC.
Ervin did no wrong.
I don't believe EC.

Here is EC as legal counsel.

EC : Your honour, my client is innocent because he is short.

Judge : GTFO.

Given the history and judgement's of the NBL tribunal this season, he'll be fine.

I think that suggests that the refs made a blunder.

The intent is what you judge here, not the lack of damage from Ervin's intent.

His intent was to knee Goulding in the groin. He obviously didn't connect or connect that hard. Goulding got up and kept playing. So does that mean if you punch someone in the street and they don't bruise or get injured from that punch that the perpetrator doesn't get charged with assault? No, they do.

Ervin's intent was to harm Goulding. Should be punished.

The league should talk to Goulding about his head butts off the ball. Give him a official warning.

Ervin wasn't ejected (which I find amazing!) so it's a little hard to suspend someone when they haven't been ejected. So what his punishment is I'm not sure. Personally I'd suspend him for game 3.

Imagine if Redhage or Wagstaff did this? The comments would be totally different. People would call for an expulsion from the league.

I think in previous NBL cases, the lack of punishment on the court has led the tribunal to decide that further punishment is required.

...what looks large from a distance, sometimes ain't never that big...

#725 you're essentially just repeating to Nat what prompted him to say what he did. It wasn't the most severe blow but it was unarguably intentional. You guys are both saying the same thing.

@'725,

We're not talking an on-court blue here, we're not talking players going the handbags or ye olde fisticuffs.

He's gone up to a player and thrown the knee into the jatz crackers. Speaking as a bloke, straight away he's gone beyond the pale.

Sadly, I can see this baggage staying with Ervin for whatever NBL future he has. Absolute brain fade. And came after his performance in Game 1 which was one of his best.

I was at the game, courtside behind and to the left of the backboard where it happened. Goulding was defending the inboard pass, nothing else. Goulding had been warned by the refs to stop holding in D a couple of times and was defending without doing so, Ervin gave him a cheap shot. Ervin didn't put out a knee, simply put, he kneed Goulding in the balls. Goulding went down immediately and didn't get up smiling as someone posted. All I saw was a guy working extremely hard at both ends of the court to get his team back into the game.

Anon #465725 - You have to judge on intent as he kneed someone, plain as day. The direction was to his "man parts", whether due to him being a short arse he couldn't make as hard contact as he might have wanted to or not, is beside the point, there has to be a base punishment for that action. Using your example of throwing a punch that connects with the shoulder (shit at throwing punches) or decks the person (much better at throwing punches) is still the same act and should have a base level of punishment applied to it. The degree of the violent act should apply further punishment to it.

Also, it looks like common sense came to MacMillan either voluntarily or otherwise and the video has been removed by the user...

Was he drunk at the time?

That makes a big difference in NSW.

Please people, don't make any more comments on what I have said. Instead, do what I asked and look at the footage. Then make a comment based on what you see, not what I say. I never said Ervin did no wrong. I said from what I saw from the footage, I could not see how his knee reached Goulding's groin. To me it looks like his foot barely lifted off the ground. He is far too short from that position to reach the groin area. It looked to me that the bending of the knee only resulted in him wrapping his ankle around Goulding's ankle. If anyone sees it differently, please comment on that.
The unsportsmanlike foul was penalty enough because if it wasn't the refs would have ejected him from the game. Not sure what point the NBL is trying to make by the 1 game suspension and $7,500 fine. In case anyone hasn't noticed, the 36ers have busted their guts this season to get to the position they are in. With good coaching and good development of players, they have convincingly reached 2nd on the ladder. They have been the team with the most home wins (only lost 1 to Sydney). Its disgraceful for the NBL to penalise the whole team like this after all they have done to come this far.