how about just coach?

Focus on your own task and stop worrying about the referees.

Mike Gibson will provide no help whatsoever. He is a referee and will only side with a referee and has no concept about the actual game of basketball

Agree, just coach your team. I'm assuming this isn't the nba or Olympic Games we are talking about?

293, how exactly is that relevant?

Why is it relevant for a coach to decide if a game is being reffed properly and how is it the coaches job to change that?

Just coach and deal/adjust to whatever umpiring you get.

Until BSA understand that they are a service provider that is failing and that the clubs can do the job better themselves nothing will change.

Clubs are as bad as BSA! Too many people with no idea running basketball

Bite your tongue!

Well because reffing does matter, it not just about being fair, and wining. When it turns into a free for all thats when people get hurt and can be badly, how do you adjust to that.. IMO 2 green shirts should be over seen for their sakes, and the safety of players, unless thats just irrelevant to!!!! ???

Of course reffing matters but you're there to coach not to referee. Just do what you're meant to do.

Remove your team from the competition and put them in a competition which doesn't do this.

Shut up and enjoy the game. Its not NBL you know.

The problem arises when the head ref doesn't do their job either because no one is holding them accountable.

If you read the OP you would see that all too often the head ref sits in a room and jokes around with the other refs who aren't working.

And if you bring this up with BSA they don't even bother responding.

336,,331,300, etc.. No its not NBA, you are right,, and obviously you have never ended up in the emergency room getting neck and spinal X-rays for your kids either, I have from a game I believe was left to get rough!!! or you to would have a different outlook on how games should NOT become out of control, and that reffing can control this happening, if done competently and properly...to late when something happens. (yes I know injuries can happen regardless, but when kids are left to get away with stuff, they will do it for a win)
Green Shirts probably need more guidance, its not their faults that they are not getting it, in this case it would seem. When that is happening, maybe coaches can sit back and just coach.

what responsibility do coaches accept for such dangerous tactics?

All good to blame the referees but a coach must be allowing their players to play that style.

I don't see anyone asking who's watching the coaches to make sure they're doing their jobs properly.

Yes because all coaches in ANY sport will say pull yourselves back on that behaviour, even if the refs arent picking you up, but please ref yourselves SAID NO COACH EVER.. As a kid playing in a different sport to this, we were taught if they are letting you get away with it, do it.. if not, change the way you play... And what if you are the coach doing the right thing, but the other one isnt, whats the answer then ? We all play teams that play at all costs unless pulled back.. or am I the only one that has seen this ?

Some real muppets replying for those of you who say deal with it, don't cry etc your either probably coaching 1 or 2's where there's no drama with this, or b, a ref or Mike Gibson.

SICK OF SEEING KIDS GETTING FRUSTRATED BY POOR REFFING??

Reality is there should never be 2 green shirts on a game - NOT for the coaches or the sideline vocal parents sake but DARE I SAY it the sake of the poor kids that DESERVE much more respect than they get.

Yes rarely does an umpire get help and feedback directly off the court.
Yes it's poor scheduling.
Yes there is a lack of umpires.
Yes there probably isn't a head ref at the stadium or b, they to busy hitin dat or on some social media site on there phone.
Yes the court super is either a, not a ref or b, a head ref who couldn't give a shiet.

YES BSA doesn't want to pay qualified Refs to go out to games and Ref coach the juniors and
YES gone are the days of Refs shadowing - you might see it occasionally at miniball.

@580 your a muppet, who moderates the coaches? the umpires, ref's, court supers, parents, kids and finally the club - coaches who are abusively usually end up towelled up by all and sundry.

I am all for and have no problem with officials slapping T's on a coach with poor behaviour straight up - Beats them saying stuff you and screwing the poor kids over with dodgy calls.


/Rant