Shouldn't be called the Goat Doctor maybe the Spin Doctor!!!

Now now Happy Days my cherished comrade,

Just because a team is not in the peninsula clique does not mean they are not granted the same entitlement to announce rousing news ;)

Maybe a wager should be declared between the rising powers of the outer South East suburbia and the previous Big V stronghold of the peninsula?

Who will win more D2M games this year Pakenham & Casey or Mornington & Westernport.

I challenge the...

Pakenham/Casey will.You certainly have a way with words: utmost noteworthy, astonishing coup....You must have a few other chestnuts to go with those few!!!

Wow, hold the presses at the Herald Sun or should that be the Pakenham Gazette....
On a positive note good signing for the club.

"Victoria's most up and coming association." hahahahahahahahaha yeah right, think you need to get out more mate.

Now that's rather a pompous comment you aver Happy Days. All one wanted to do were to share with this forum a little excitement. I don’t for a fleeting moment feel the phrasing of my previous posts has been articulated in an overtly striking fashion.

Perhaps the residents of the celebrated peninsula basketball circle are not as refined as they proclaim.

So can we decide on a little wager between the peninsula and the outer south eastern associations?

Ashke, who would you declare the most up and coming association?

Well i would be looking towards the likes of Traralgon who is producing a large amount of talented kids at the moment in both state and aus squads, Mildura is also producing a large amount of state players. Southern Pen is producing a large amount of state players, all three of those associations i would have well and truly in front of Pakenham... And they are only the Country Associations i have quickly looked at!

And when you declare yourself as the most up and coming association in the STATE, what else are you taking in to account? Administration, Facilities, DOC, Senior Coaches, Development Programs, Pathways, State Reps, Aus Players???

Or are you basing this off a few senior signings?

Packy have poached enough talent to win D2 easily. As it stands witht the players they already have without this new signing they start clear favs for the title.

For the amount they have spent, If they dont win it this year questions need to be asked.

The clubs to watch in future are Pakenham and Casey as they are sitting in the biggest growth corridor.They also have very strong support from their local councils and will continue to expand as a result.

No mention of Melton Ashke?

Sorry HO, was only going through the Country Associations that i know of. And i actually have no idea about Melton full stop hahaha, but please feel free to add them if you feel they are "on the rise".

Happy Days, does expansion mean success? Or simply just volume etc.

Volume which should ultimately bring success through weight of numbers.

Coupled with your favourite topic of "governance and administration", then i would agree.

I think any where that is growing as rapidly as the south east can only increase the potential for those clubs to become big clubs. however governance and administration go along way to putting it all together. and that is across all levels. not only Representative but also Domestic Clubs as well.

If they are all working as one to do the same job then of course it is possible.

And lets not forget coaches. It's one thing to have a great administration. but admin doesn't teach the kids.. They need to have good coaches in the programs as well as leading the program... I Watched a few Pakenham sides a couple of weeks ago and they are still playing solid Zone Defense for 40 minutes.. really not teaching young athletes how to play man to man.. and definitely not teaching coaches how to read tempo's and make adjustments.

Lots of different Area's to consider when a club expands not just a growth area. but put the Admin and the Coaching area's together properly and I would agree that both these clubs would be up the top somewhere in the next 3 to 5 years.

Of course, it is possible e-will has bought into a program that is indeed up and coming and they are using him as a centrepiece of a plan to rise through the ranks over 2-3 years.... not dissimilar to a Championship or League 1 football team taking a quality overseas player or three as they seek promotion.

Any club can have a good rep team if your prepared to spend money. The question is could that money be better spent somewhere else.Unfortunately some clubs get sucked into the arms race which ultimately wins you a $200 trophy and a pennant. What it can do is increase sponsorship and give you more brand awareness in the local community as everybody loves a winner.

Eric Williams will sign at Knox, not Pakenham

I can confirm it is not Eric Williams.

It is however a name that will become forever concomitant with the success Pakenham will deliver.

I would also like to bring to question the need for random people bagging the Pakenham Association for trying to be the best it can be.

The Goat Doctor: Please refrain from using words that average Joe has absolutely no idea what it means:
Concomitant early 17th century: from late Latin concomitant- 'accompanying', from concomitari, from con- 'together with' + comitari, from Latin comes 'companion'

If you think its glorified domestic, then I'd suggest you don't see much domestic basketball.

I am no great defender of the standard, but with few exceptions, any D2 side would whip a domestic side.

so true... it is glorifed domestic!

but hey they have a training session....so must be better

Its the best of the local domestic comp with 3-5 outsiders which generally lifts the standard.

d2 is shit

#459694

Very easy to say, very hard to sustain.

I am not arguing that D2 is a great standard, but the cheap throwaway line that it is glorified domestic is just that, a cheap throwaway line.

Mornington D2 women have signed import Jasmine Stovall: http://www.ekusports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3789

Still won't win a game.....

Ashke have faith... Interesting to know whos funding it???

Solid point Happy Days, will this import be another "junior development officer"?

They didnt have the money last year to keep Demarcus so how they can get a 2nd import is beyond me unless a sponsor is financially backing her.If there not diligent they will end up like Knox.Dont even think they have a president yet???

I would have thought M'ton had a few other things that needed attention/money before getting another import.

Totally agree, money could be better spent in other areas of the club unless it is coming out of an individuals pocket.

Is DeMarcus still here?

He is as coaching director.They were going to release him end of last year as they didn't have the funds.Members called Special Meeting and President and Secretary resigned.Some how they came to an agreement for him to stay on.Maybe they upped there fees for rep ball as domestic is the same.

hhahahahahahaha oh wow, coaching director? hahahahaha

I have to admit he is there at 7am each morning for individuals so i'll give him that.

Well it should only be a matter of time before we start to see the state/aus players roll out of M'ton.

Got one good kid who should go to college:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7BVg4_89eA

Mornington obviously Victoria's most up and coming association....

HO hit the nail on the head!

Boooooooya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DominNATION from cavsNATION

Problem for Josh is there are lots of players like him trying to get into the college system. If was 6-8 wouldnt be a problem getting him a gig.

@Happy Days, they don't grow on trees though do they?

Plenty of coaches want the bigger bodies, especially at the collegiate level where your 6' 8" plus athletes can tear up the court...

Finding them here is not so easy, not with the talent required for elite level basketball, I guess that's why so many go back to football!

....kickert to look for another euro gig....or he'll train with an SEABL team over winter beofre heading back to Europe.

The guys is earn about 12k a month in the ukraine he doesn't even wan to drive thru pakenham, let alone play or train down there!

Isn't Mills meant be having a couple of games with Pakenham in the lead up to the World Champs?

How will they fit all of those guys in with Alonzo mOurning playing as well.

So Breaking News, Pakenham's Captain James Topp has walked from the club.

And the Import cancelled due to family commitments.

hmmmm someone jumped the gun announcing news.

Thought the Cavs were going to "smash everyone" ??

I guess that's why you don't start to make noise about an announcement until the signing is 100% finalized and done. Haha

Unless you have a signature on the dotted line it counts for nothing.

Lets see what spin the Goat Doctor puts on this one....More spin than Murali doosra!!!

Saw Casey men play a few games, both the games they lost actually.. Now I'm a person from what you people would call a "big club" and have no affiliation with anything lower than SCM but I could tell straight away that the Casey men's team was just strolling through preseason just trying to work things out.. Could have easily beaten both Maccabi & Keilor if they wanted to. They'll be a team to watch this season, don't worry about that!
And for Good old 'Pakky' for the amount of news articles they put out on pretty much everyone on their roster and they way they talked their team up so heavily during the off season I was expecting a SEABL/NBL caliber team but saw the complete opposite... The Warriors have a lot of work to do to live up to the off season hype they built up around themselves and your captain walking out on the club is not a move that is going to help anytime soon.

After the result on the weekend i think the goat doctor has gone MIA.
Pakky almost good enough, unlucky they had to play casey to make it though