Undisciplined and disorganised. What do you expect when players aren't required to turn up to trainings and go undisciplined when they don't attend compulsories.

The refs thing was a cheap deflection, there was really nothing out of the ordinary in the officiating. I like having Anstey and Heal coaching in the league but I am having a hard time figuring out how either of them will collect a title.

I doubt it, lacking talent and he has Marty Clarke, Mark Radford style savvy as a coach. Im more surprised that DMac hasnt been able to switch to coaching with more success, was a very smart player. Same goes for Kidd in the NBA with that transition I guess.

can't really see what Greer is bringing to the table for the tigers.

Is it the enigma of having being a recent player?

The older coaches seem to get much more respect.

Where, in respect of Heal and Anstey, it almost seems like the players have this "I know more than the coach attitude".

Part of it, I am sure, comes from the fact that Anstey doesn't seem tough enough on his group.

I don't think its a coincidence that when the Tigers and Kings lose, its almost always because they appear to have deviated completely from the game plan (which shows undiscipline)

Just little things seem to happen to the group that wouldn't happen under a veteran coach. (Which probably explains why Wortho went there)

Maybe if Anstey were as tough on his players as he is on the refs...?

Be interesting to go a training and see what goes on. Cant see what Tommy Greer brings to the table apart from his regular segment on SEN.Just a SEABL player.

From day one i haven't rated him as a coach or the tigers has contenders. They seem to be a little more disciplined (especially goulding) this season compared to last but still lack mental toughness down the stretch and lose their structure and become too individual.
The comments above sound about right if ansteys not drilling them at training

Manut, spot on. They don't have any finals match winners either.

I strongly believe that you need two things to be successful. 1. Natural talent and 2. Persistence.

Looking at successful teams/coaches across a wide range of sports you see a lot a talented teams, but the thing that sets them apart is persistence and resilience to come back when the cards are down. Teams that win championships are talented, but more importantly when things go wrong for them, they persist and adapt to changes and evolve their strategy to suit. They never give up even when things look lost.

The Tigers have got talent in their team but IMO they look a little low in persistence. If they were down by 10 points with a minute to play, then you could almost expect them to lose. If the Hawks were in the same position, you know that they could sniff victory and Gordie would be riding them like a jockey at Morphetville - they would make that minute count. Gordie would rub dencorub into his whip to make sure his charges don't slacken off.

no they can not win with Anstey

Is this the replacement for the Sack Heal thread which is a bit quiet at the moment!

Anstey was the same in Big V known for tryin to stand over officals & would always argue.

Can't say i've seen the Tigers Sessions but have heard that there Video sessions are sub standard & as an overall weekly training program in general it is less than would be expected from a team with 4-5 days to train every week.

Not sure weather this is player culture or coaches but that is reaports from various people in Melbourne about the program.

Pretty much they are getting by on superior talent to the teams below them at the moment.

I'm waiting for one of the referees to be fined for after match comments to the media about a coach's decisions during a game. That I'd like to see.

I think it be interesting to see what the owners will do. Tigers will always be competitive under Anstey but ultimately its about titles and if he cant deliver one by the end of next season he might be looking for another gig.That will be his 4th season as Head Coach. What are your thoughts Paul?

The owners won't sack Anstey any time soon as he is very tight with the owners....like best buddie tight!

They'll give him every chance possible hence they hired him with little to no senior coaching experience because they are bud's

I dont think these owners are all about championships, their main focus is on building the club to be a powerhouse off the court. That's not a bad plan, because once that is achieved you are in a position to compete on the floor every year.

When I chatted to one of the owners he was very pleased with the work both Anstey and D-Mac were doing in local associations etc and the profile they took with them so that would be a big tick.

On the court, the Tigers have had the biggest injury interruptions of any team and yet still sit in third spot. Assuming they make the playoffs I think that would be a tick for Anstey in his second season, especially with the club on a four-year drought.

Despite the inappropriateness of behaviour by Anstey and the issues some have with his coaching, take a trip to NBL TV replays of the Sixers V Kings last week and then the Tigers V Kings, then come back on thread and comment, honestly, and I mean honestly on firstly the Kings on court push, grabs and slashes, then think seriously about the calls under the current definitions of the rules. throw in a little sportsmanship and then you may reconsider the officiating calls and Ansteys comments. Something is going on. Despite how good Sydney may look, I'm betting there will be more opposition coaches and teams who are not happy with the on court behaviour of the Kings and the officiating of those games, but Anstey may be the only one willing to challenge it. What happened to the early season reviews, comments and apologies on officiating calls that were plain old wrong, both ways, and how about some reviews post games and penalties implemented for the slashes on players on the fast break every time from Sydney which are outright dangerous, intentional and across the board........ Just Sayin...... I hope Taipans can make it, at least it will be a fair fight to the finish...... integrity is key....

If your going to make comment about referees he should of used one of Kevin Sheedys lines about the aliens.

While you're watching replays, have a look at the body language and constant griping and remonstrating towards the officials by Wortho, Goulding, and barely an NBL player Tomlinson, led by serial complainer (well, if you count "its a joke" as a valid complaint) Anstey, and then wonder why the Tigers don't get the love they feel they deserve from the officials.

They haven't displayed any professionalism in the court since Anstey took over. They should probably look in their own backyard before worrying about what anyone else is doing.

Classic sort of collection of talented people but not a team sort of issue.

Anstey's record is 22-24 in a period where it's bloody tough to get wins with so few clubs, let alone with a rookie coach. The two years before he got there the Tigers' record was 21-35.

Heal's record at the Kings is 23-27 (plus a playoff series loss) compared to 16-34 before he got there. I think both have room for improvement but overall have done pretty well.

Paul will be seeing you pulling on the basketball or football boots this year or both?

I pull that from talking to people who have been involved in the league a long time telling me it is as hard as ever now.

They dont seem to feel beating Wollongong or Cairns is easy. Some of the Hunter, Canberra, Singapore, West Sydney, Brisbane, Cairns, Geelong, Gold Coast, Hobart, Townsville etc teams of the past were a much different story.

Happy Days, looks like it's the round ball this year.

Since Anstey and Heal have taken over their respective clubs they have them playing .500 ball, not enough to win a championship imo

Paul will it be Sth Pen, Chelsea, Mornington or Westernport? I suppose it depends who has the biggest wallet....

Just getting around to finish reading this thread...

@Annon - you're seriously painting the Tigers as the model of integrity on court? HA! How about you watch again and play a drinking game on the amount of Anstey's (elbows) were thrown? I think AJ might have a few words to say about the "integrity" of the Tigers players...