Definitely, I don't understand why teams play average imports over rising stars, especially teams like the Crocs and Hawks. Frye is a good defender but so is Creek, Frye is a good slasher but so is Creek. Creek is a younger version of Frye IMO.

Agreed he definitely deserves it, and if Frye came off the bench he might avoid getting the cheap early fouls he often gets.

It's not just about starting your best players. Chemistry, team balance and match ups are also taken into consideration. Being labelled a 'starter' is overrated - how else did '6th man' become such a popular concept and saying?

Creek's minutes, however, is another matter altogether...

Creek should be playing 30+ mins every game, especially to fast track development.
Think of it from opposition point of view. He is a hard match up. Cadee, Creek, Gibson, Johnson plus imports would be a very formidable combination and this is the core group to build around for long term success. Spend your money on these guys plus imports run a cheap bench and forget stupid rotation policies.

Whether he is starting or a 6 man he clearly deserves more minutes imo. By the time the expansion teams join you would think he would be a prime target

Moneyballer. Would you care to enlighten us all on which average import plays over which rising star at the Hawks.

Minutes are the key. JF is a predominately defensive player and I imagine he starts to keep a lid on the opposition and wear them down a bit, them BAM! out comes Creek to "Mitch Slap" the opposition.

The Adelaide 36ers total and average minutes so far in 2013-14 is (main 10 man roster).....in order:

Adam Gibson: 540:09 (17 games) @ 31.7 mpg
Gary Ervin: 446:53 (15 games) @ 29.8 mpg
Daniel Johnson: 480:34 (17 games) @ 28.3 mpg
Anthony Petrie: 466:05 (17 games) @ 27.4 mpg
Jarrid Frye: 344:34 (16 games) @ 21.5 mpg
Jason Cadee: 328:17 (17 games) @ 19.3 mpg
Mitch Creek: 264:45 (17 games) @ 15.6 mpg
Luke Schenscher: 241:53 (17 games) @ 14.2 mpg
BJ Anthony: 203:05 (17 games) @ 11.9 mpg
Brendan Teys: 71:23 (13 games) @ 5.5 mpg

"Mitch Slap" hahaha I like that!

Creek deserves more minutes than Cadee or Frye I would play him at least 25 mins

fstos, what I was meaning was teams like the Hawks and Crocs have smaller budgets so why not develop your young guys by giving them stacks of court time and shots rather than paying for an import that will only be around for a year.

Moneyballer, what do you call Mitch Norton, Todd Blanchfield and Mirko Djeric? Not to mention Peter Crawford and the Cedar brothers previously.

Townsville does as well as anyone outside NZ at developing young players, and even the Breakers make their young guys earn their minutes.

I've been wanting to say this for some time... Ubaka has been the worst import this season followed by Jarrid Frye (yep even worse than Lazarre) and for a bloke to spruik before the season that he would dominate Ennis and now what? He has an awful jump shot, doesn't trust himself to drive enough and YES he takes time off Creek... Send him home. If Creek gets tired bring in BJ and give the opponent a more physical cover.

I watched as Kevin Tiggs missed a couple of dunks live as the hawks got destroyed by Perth, but something about him excited me and he has produced later in the season and been tremendous fun to watch... When will Frye impress?

I'm sorry to rant but he plays in a team choc full of confidence and had the 36ers been losing more this season then he'd be on a plane quicker than CJ Massingale

End rant

Agree Proud especially as CJ Massingale least had a outside shot which would be handy with our current team.

This is the second Adelaide coach to underplay Creek. If he was a sure thing, both would be playing him more. There could be something putting them off, maybe strategic smarts and ability to work the plays perfectly. Can't see any other reason given that Creek often seems to excel in his occasional minutes, is a crowd favourite and generally entertaining to watch.

Either Frye is a clearly superior defensive stopper and cog in a defensive rotation, or Joey has a bit of a blind spot.

Isaac, just watch Joey's rotations at the end of the games, he rotates Frye on to get defensive stops then rotates on other players when the Sixers are in offence.

Well said, Isaac.

Play the anti-hero 16mins and your guy 21mins,then, in a short game over in the blinking of an eye with acrowd deprived of minutes

BJ looks a little like Frye.
Of the two at training, I'd have Frye.
Creek likes to do the flashy specky showey things and we gotta wait for him to finish.
Fans are too despotic. Once in love with weigh's big minutes, they expect Frye, playing half a game in the second team, to be replaced.

I think Mitch should be getting alot more minutes than Frye because he is offensivly and defensively alot better. Has Jarrid Frye been making the top 3 scorers on Adelaide recently... No. I think Mitch is getting not enough court time. He should have some of Frye's minutes!

There's a creeping consumption in the place and it begins with these Frye haters. They ask nothing and receive nothing. Forgiveness is not in them. They scorn the widow and abuse the child. I'm glad they are not in charge of the young man's destiny.