Knee surgery?? I thought his was a back problem?

No always been a knee thing. Very minor, utilised the extra xmas break to take care of it.

Gibson and Cadee will pick up the slack while Ervin is out. Adelaide will possibly lose to Townsville tomorrow nght but they will be there at business end of season if he fully recovers.

Better to have the surgery over the Christmas break and only miss one game than do more damage as the season goes on and be out for the finals.

I still think we can win tomorrow night. I'd expect Cadee will start at PG (and unlike last season he will play PG), with Mitch Creek in particular, and Brendan Teys to get some more minutes.

Ervin having surgery might have also been part of Joey Wright's motivation to give a couple of the DP's some game time against Cairns last time out (other than the blow out score). The 36ers would have known Ervin was going to miss a game or two so gives a good reason to give the fringe DP's some court time.

Cadee a point guard?

I don't rate Cadee at all but people seem to be forgetting Gibson I think he will do fine in ervins absence but crocs to get this one.

Anon - I would point out that Marty spent a LOT of time individually with Cadee.

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Cadee will never be a Boomer, we have way too much talent coming through now.

Gee if only there was someone like Brett Maher around him everyday that could help

Uni games performance already lost on people it seems

Cadee started here last season 28games, 30minutes a game,good chance to see him. (Wouldn't mind J.Frye for 30minutes tonite) G.Ervin injury on 3 TVnewses last nite. (Most likely J.Pace out with hand injury)

I've actually been impressed with Cadee this season, he seems to have found his shot more than last year (at least at home games, heh). He also seems to be attacking the basket more aggressively, which he has always been good at, but seems to do more often now.

Even his defense which was previously dire has improved a lot from 12 months ago.

As for Ervin, hopefully it does end up being just a minor setback and he is back at full strength soon.

Agreed GD, once he settled back into a bench role, Cadee has actually played better this season. Other than maybe Perth he'd be a starter on just any other NBL team.

I said all of last season that Adelaide will reap the benefits from giving so much game time to Caddee last season and he has been a much better player this season and I think he will be a star if he went to Bullets or somewhere where he doesn't have Gibbo looking over his shoulder all the time.

Crocs for me and I'm fascinated by the biggest team coming up against one of the smallest

Cadee was awesome last night versus Townsville. Hit 3 huge shots down the stretch which won us the game.

I agree that he has showed significant improvement this year compared to last year, even though he has gone from a starting to bench role. He is more aggressive offensively and the fact his shot is far more consistent now seems to open up the rest of his game. It was not only last night he was impressive, he has had numerous quality performances this season including the win against the Wildcats. Hopefully we can find a way to keep him a 36er after this season.

What Cadee did in the off-season was pretty impressive, so it's not surprising to see him step up but Im glad it's happening as you never know, sometimes players dont reach their potential for a myriad of reasons.

I think our starters all double figures. NBL don't show visiting teams box scores all that much here.
For the first time in Joey's career he and the 36ers bench were warned by the ref for barracking too loud.

Their crowds are up over 20 per cent (almost 1000 per game) on this time last season.

Yep, and 22% on the same time last season. Sydney are the only other team that's increased by more than 10%.

Winning sure helps full credit to the sixers. Wonder how long before Sydney crowds drop

I'd say the person above is comparing this season so far with the end of season figure from last year, where my figure is a like for like (ie same number of games each year).

As of Christmas the average crowd for Adelaide this season is 5060, while after six games in 2012/13 it was 4039 so just over 1000 in fact.

Sydney's average is 5105 compared to 4309 after five home games last season. Neither team is where they would want to be yet but at least they are heading in that direction.

Adelaide's crowds this season according to the official reports:

v Cairns 4981
v Hawks 4080
v Perth 6585
v Tigers 4364
v Kings 4540
v Hawks 5815

Total = 30,365
Average = 5060

Sydney have actually played six home games now, so their figure is 5130 up from 4553.

All last season’s crowds are in wiki here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_NBL_season. For this year’s you have to go through the game reports.

Division 1 and 2 district basketball in Adelaide is on a Friday night so that may explain the shortage of people on a Friday night.

I'd work on it being 5000

Before this round:

After the same number of home games last season (This years number in brackets):

Perth: 11,534 (11,001)
Adelaide: 4,039 (5,061)
Sydney: 4,309 (5,024)
New Zealand: 5,170 (4,915)
Cairns: 4,365 (3,896)
Melbourne: 3,249 (3,345)
Townsville: 3,426 (3,044)
Wollongong: 3,875 (2,750)

New Zealand has played the same proportion of games between NSEC and Vector as their first 7 home games last season. For Melbourne's average I took their first 7 games at SNAHC last season.

Opponents have a lot of impact on the attendance numbers. You cant simply say "this time last year"

Assess the numbers of say 36ers v Perth against last year as a more consistent measurement

From what I remember looking at numbers over the years the calendar has a bigger impact than opponents (as do other localised factors like scheduling and competing events), with numbers generally rising as the season wears on.

It would depend on what you mean by break even. On stadium hire for the night, or to balance out costs for the entire year?

Someone who could possibly have known told me for the 2012/13 team if they averaged 6000 they would have been in the black. Obviously no way of testing that.

Two or three playoff games this year could well make the difference between red and black, and breaking even in today's environment would be a good effort.