Another dumb move by Sactown.

Smart move by Ujiri.

Vasquez is a very good player.

I would have insisted on picks if I was taking Gay, he's that much of a net negative. Great work by Ujiri.

What an idiotic move by Sacramento.

Isiah Thomas has been playing lights out lately, so they obviously want to give him more of a role and develop him into a star.

Either way, it's a shit move.

Exactly. If you want to move Vasquez to make way for Thomas, that's fine, but you don't move him for Rudy Fucking Gay. You move him for picks or expiring contracts.

The more details I learn about this trade, the more confused I get. I just don't understand Sacramento's motive.

He'll be taking shots off Maclemore, whom is just starting to hit his straps as well.

Also they want him to play as a stretch 4, and just traded for Derrick Williams who they want to play as a...stretch 4.

Also just noticed Patterson and Salmons' contracts are both expiring. Toronto creamed them.

Can you imagine a locker room featuring Boogie Cousins and Rudy Gay as the team's leaders and elder statesmen? This is gonna be all kinds of ugly.

None of the players involved are suiting for Toronto today, who play the Lakers in LA. Lakers paying $1.41 and their line is -6 in case you fancy that.

I think the Raptors are instantly better without Gay via addition-by-subtraction but you could count on the associated turmoil to upend them.

Mick, I've been watching Sacramento recently and they're playing Williams on the wing as a three.

Those having a punt, you absolutely HAVE to get on DeRozan over 22.5 points.

And Toronto obviously want DeRozan to develop into a superstar, which is where he is heading, and in quick time too

Raptors surely building around DeMar, Jonas Valanciunas and even Amir Johnson to an extent.

Increases chance of fellow Canadian Andrew Wiggins in draft I think.

Raps now have FIVE point guards. Ridiculous. Lowry, Vasquez, Stone, Buycks and Augustin. Something's giving way there.

They could also sell high on DeRozan and clear even more cap space for next Summer.

Lots of options.

I wouldn't, Mick. He is the only bright spot for the whole franchise.

In a couple years, you'll be listing the league's best, among Paul George, Anthony Davis etc.

Within the range of the league's best*

why the hell are the lakers starting Bob Sacre? Is jordan hill injured?

They're easing him back from an ankle sprain he suffered a couple weeks ago. He's been playing 15 or so minutes per game since.

Mike D'Antoni would be so frustrating to play for...

Haha, you hate him don't you

So I've been watching some of these lakers games this year and now that Kobe is back the ball movement just stops. Kobe is even trying to move the ball through hands but it's just like the other role players that usually step up just stand there and watch... so frustrating

Yeah I know what you're getting at, anons.

I just have really high expectations of him. He has good defensive potential and is getting a little better on that end. He's going to be one of the league's best scorers in the coming years, providing he puts away the mid range jumper and gets to the rim.

He's three years younger than Gay, so we can't really compare them for another few years yet.

I know there's no real evidence that he will be a star, but I just feel it. He has great work ethic.

On top of his lack of anything resembling a defensive strategy, I just hate how hr constantly fucks with his rotations and benches guys when they are hot. It's tough going to work not knowing what your role is going to be, especially if your efficiency and production have no correlation with court time.

I think Kobe and the Lakers both know they arent winning anything during his current deal. After those two seasons you'll see them ditch dantoni, reload, kobe take a paycut on a final 2 year deal and go for one last hurrah. There are no free agents available to come to the lakers before than anyway, which is why all this talk of kobe taking too much coin is overblown, and they dont have many trade assets to get anyone that way...

and after all that, DeRozan and Amir Johnson go crazy and Toronto nab the win.

The Raps waived DJ Augustin, so that's one less PG on the roster.

They're talking about trading Lowry and/or DeRozan today as well. Obviously want to start Vasquez, so getting rid of Lowry is understandable, not sure where they're going with the possible trade of DeRozan though? At least now.

So it looks like Derozan is coming along quite nicely. Upping his dimes and scoring a bit more efficiently.

If only he'd knock off the midrange jumpers and get to the rim more.