Could SEABL slowly crumble as the state leagues become stronger?

Where will Brisbane play? QBL appears to be growing and if they make a move???

If I was a Victorian club I would be jumping on this and helping shove Brisbane out. Its the Vic clubs money that props up the participation of clubs like Brisbane. If Brisbane left everyone's fees become cheaper due to lower airfares equalisation and having one less overnight road trip (ground transport, accommodation etc.).

There is lots of precedent for non-victorian teams playing in Victorian competitions.

I think Mt Gambier played in the CBL last year and some other NSW border towns compete in some vic events.

Albury get around that if they want to by calling themselves Albury-Wodonga....

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Good call. Surely though under BA admin costs will come down? Don't the SEABl now have three FT staff or four? What is Chuck doing these days at BA? They could combine WNBL and SEABL management and save a role in the revamp.

I take it from Posts to date that there is no concern about SEABL becoming a BA Commission and SEABL Members losing control and its Members having reduced Service from the current Staff because of doing other BA work

Well Murray it was not really the point of your thread was it? You made it about Brisbane.

Imagine there was no SEABL and each State League was filled with the SEABL teams, then end of year the National Titles could come back with $$$ help for clubs to come from BA, winner from each state fly to Melbourne or Sydney to compete for National Champion!

Would be great to see a two-month 16 team comp at end of state league season between the best of each comp, all able to add two players from non-qualified teams in their comp. Dreaming I know, but I'd love to see it.

Without SEABL Tasmanian basketball would be dead. As with many other regional areas who do not have NBL teams to support or aspire to.

The Tasmanian teams would be allowed to enter the Victorian Division, as Canberra would enter NSW.

Yes good idea why not call it South East Australian Basketball League!!

So i guess if SEABL was no more the players would all just quit basketball wouldn't they? of course the other leagues would get stronger, and the Sponsors may not be as large but would still filter down to the lower leagues.

I don't think sponsors would filter down. Budgets would be reduced and while the standard elsewhere might improve a little bit, overall, the opportunities for players and coaches would diminish.

HO - Murray was pretty clearly asking about exactly that point - "Are there any other like minded concerns around SEABL clubs?" with respect to "unwillingness to participate in SEABL under a proposed BA Commission."

Melbourne Boy (#435942) and you (#435943) made it about Brisbane leaving and not about their reasons for doing so. That's fine, but don't misrepresent it when the OP tries to bring it back to the original question.

Those teams would still want to win, and do what it takes to win, so while there might be a short term drop it wouldnt last long. You have to constantly get better in sport to remain competitive.

Not able to find anything factual on this, does anyone have a link to something with details that we can actually read at this point?

Otherwise we are being far too speculative...

Many seabl clubs are very concerned about the BA merge.
Question now is what is the alternative? Side with the new NBL that may not be around in a few seasons?

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Not able to find anything factual on this, does anyone have a link to something with details that we can actually read at this point?

Otherwise we are being far too speculative.

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I suggest that writers contact local SEABL Clubs for details

The SEABL Board and BA have proposed that the SEABL Members vote on the 30th Nov to formerly wind up SEABL as a legal entity and then on 1st December the Competition will be run by a unit within the BA Competitions department headed up by Chuck Harminson. 5 Members of the current SEABL Board together with two BA members will comprise a Commission operating under a Terms of Reference Determined by the BA Board. The competition will be managed by existing SEABL staff who will move to be employed by BA.

Each SEABL club will have to sign up under a licence agreement to the Commission. The name for the Competition has been suggested as the AABL and will be re-branded.

This organisation restructure means that BA staff will be running the AABL competition and the AABL Commission will be the Strategic and overall Governance arm of the AABL but responsible to the BA Board.

As I suggest if the writers contact local SEABL Clubs or direct your enquiries to SEABL or BA

So if the votes are 10 to 5 for the new BA model, leaving the other 5 clubs to move to their state leagues, November will be interesting.

BA i'm sure will make good of all this btw, everything they touch has turned to gold of late hasn't it?

PeterJohn. I saw the question, but Murray made the post about Brisbane. His topic title made it about Brisbane.

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'Without SEABL basketball will suffer".

Let me put something to you. Everyone said this about NBL teams in victoria falling away as well, and that the overall profile of the NBL diving since the mid 90's would also have this effect. Your statement is silly.

Guess what. It has not. In that time we have continued to grow as a sport (data strongly supports this), our international influence has continued to build and we are generally as a sport doing ok - despite the doomsdayers who ONLY link the health of the sport to the NBL.

Here's another option for you and the guys bleating about Tasmania. perhaps if the SEABL was not there you might see the emergence of a really good weekend Tassie League - perhaps the only thing holding that back right now is SEABL?

I am not a proponent btw. I think SEABL needs to survive in some form, what that form is I have no idea. But building cohesive pathways between the state leagues and SEABL is important as well.

Having said this, Queensland and WA have proved they don't need SEABL for some time. I think basketball is probably doing quite well in those states all things considered.

And another BTW, if Brisbane did fall out of SEABL where would they play? Answer = QBL. Administered by? Basketball Queensland - not a dissimilar structure to what BA are allegedly proposing.