flipping burgers somewhere.

Looking for a team where they are allowed to shoot it every time they catch it

Seriously, anyone know?

Might get a gig in uganda

Should play seabl next season and get some exposure down here.

Off to the attitude school.

Mike is the only crocs player i havent got an autograph from :( may have to chase him down at a qbl game...

Mick Cedar improved a lot last year and was looking to get inside more, play better in all the little ways, and rebound the ball with more aggression. Unfortunately he's just way too slow on a basketball court (apparently he was a gun 100m sprinter, so he must be really fast once he gets going but just takes a while to accelerate), so he's a bit of a defensive liability. His terrible shooting over the past two or three seasons is the biggest factor in seeing him go though, because he was primarily employed as a spot up shooter. Still has a hard time going left and all of the explosiveness that was his trademark during his junior career is gone. I think he really needs a change of scenery because he was too normalised to the townsville situation and needs a fire under his ass. Can contribute at this level off the bench, but needs a hard ass type coach to push him.

Chris Cedar: quick as hell, tenacious defender and solid ball handler. Looks to get other guys involved. Can't shoot the ball to save himself (unlike Mick this isn't a slump: he's never been a shooter). Can blow by defenders and get inside but has trouble finishing at the rim. I think that's just a confidence thing though, a few more reps in NBL games and he'll get some rhthym in that department. Solid size for the PG position at at least 6'1" and with muscle. Had no chance in Townsville playing third PG behind Mitch Norton who is six years younger and plays for Australia at junior level / world uni games etc.

I think both guys should have looked to go outside their comfort zones and tried to play in SEABL this offseason and played against the best guys in the country, instead they stayed in the lower-standard QBL to play with Townsville. Easier said than done with Chris because he's a young father. But basketball wise it would have been better for them both.

No bullshit humor, hey just both suck big time. Horrible

I wanted to get my brother a Ben Allen jersey for his birthday but when I looked into it, it was too expensive for a joke present...

Maybe I'll get him a Kings one if they aren't too dear.

Mick Cedar was greatly improved on the defensive end last year, yes, but he went from being "very poor" to "average". And being one of the Crocs best defenders -- on the worst defensive team in the league, no less, isn't much of a distinction. Too slow laterally to keep up with guards, too small to defend wings.

As for Chris, 31% is not a good number from deep. And the Crocs were godwaful at shooting the ball last year, so fourth on the team is nothing to crow about. But the problem with those numbers that none of them are true. Chris actually shot 27.6% (Mick was a touch worse at 27.3%) from deep last year, which is about as bad as you can get, especially remarkable because most people who are that bad from range normally don't attempt shots at all. His form is flawed and there is too much power coming from the wrists/hands/arms once they are above the head in the shooting motion, like a rugby union line out throw-in or a netball shot.

Mick +1

Anon #428217 - Crocs were the worst shooting team in the NBL last season. Even worse than Perth. Watching the Cocs play the Wildcats was cringeworthy.

According to the NBL web site for 2012-13 season:

There were 86 players who took at least 30 field goal attempts. M Cedar was 30th in that list for number of field goals taken (217). His field goal percentage was 71st (34.1%).

There were 55 players who took at least 30 3-point shots. M Cedar was 25th on that list for shots taken (121). He was 47th for 3-point percentage (27.3%).

Personally, I thought Mick's comments were quite specific and, as these figures show, have plenty of substance behind them.

Michael Cedar's ill-advised stepback (stepjack?) is a bit of a trademark.

The thing with Mick is that once the book on him was that he hates putting the ball on the floor, closing out hard on the three point shot and overplaying him on the perimeter has seen his percentages drop the last three seasons at least.

He started putting the ball on the floor a bit more this season just gone but his first step is just so slow and he can't handle with his left hand very well that it just looks awkward.

He's a cool customer and calm under pressure, but at the same time the trade off for that is you don't see him diving on loose balls or making energy/hustle plays. He's too cool all the time.

Anyway, like I said, I hope he gets a gig somewhere with a coach that puts him outside of his comfort zone and he continues to grow as a player.

Fake Mick makes some points. But M Cedar is actually quite a good athlete & very quick. He looks slow & D is poor if he has to make defensive decisions. We the rules are simple he's locked in & effective.
The real reason he 'never went on with it'.....his slide coincided with Brad Williams. Grog. Junk food. Party. Bitch & moan.