See also: spin move. Good footwork in this country is mostly discouraged by the way the game is called unfortunately.

Agree 100%.

Euro step employs a wide cross over dribble and a fake inside hand off with a (misdircting) two step lay up to send the defender the wrong way...

Officials here see the two step when the ball is picked up to make the lay up and don't give the attacking player the benefit of the skill (not the doubt).

Footwork has to be right though, how many kids out there at under 18 Nationals got the footwork correct?

Spin move is also a hard one, but unless officials are 100% confident that the player has travelled they should not call it, I agree it ruins the game and slows down or discourages out kids from being more flambouyant... IMO!

...our kids...

Things like this should be explicitly spelled out "in the manual", rather than making the refs use their own problem solving skills to apply the "two steps only" rule to more dynamic situations such as spin moves and euro steps.

Why not have a finite explanation for what a euro step is in the rules and have its legal parameters defined explicitly?

It's still somewhat of a problem at the NBL level...

Nay Mick, disagree mate, keep rules as simple as possible, we don't benefit from trying to keep up with signature moves or individual moves by making extra rules up as we go...

It is the interpretation, always has been...

I have noticed that the spin move has basically been out lawed in BIG V to the stage where we are telling players (especially our import) to take it out of there games. I'm not sure if it was a direction from the ref authorities to try and take it from the game but I think 90% of the spin moves I have seen this season have been called travel.

Very sad when one of the most exciting moves in our game is being taken away.

Agree with above, they are very quick to call a travel on a legitimate Euro step. Have seen many coaches go crazy on the sideline when the travel call is made. All it does is discourage the kids from using that move....

I think it's fair to say that for the most part the problem is with the referees, not the rules, when looking at these calls.

As the anon above posted, the rules regarding traveling are pretty cut and dried.

At the start of the NBL season last year, there was an emphasis on eliminating the spin move.

It was decided by the League officials body, and FIBA Australia technical officials, that the spin move was looked to be penalised by calling a travel, under the guidance that in the NBL, 9 out of 10 spin moves were actually travel.

What then occurs with this ruling, it is then passed on to the lower senior leagues under the NBL, and also then enforced at National Junior Championships.

Hence we are at where we are now.

Please note this isn't what I believe is right for the calling of the game, it is simply the explanation for what has occurred over the past 2 years.

Sorry I forgot to add to this:

It was decided by the League officials body, and FIBA Australia technical officials, that the spin move was looked to be penalised by calling a travel, under the guidance that in the NBL, 9 out of 10 spin moves were actually travel.

So all spin moves were deemed to be illegal and called as travels.

Well, Freddy if that is actually true it is a big mistake mate. One that needs immediate change... Maybe a change in those whom are responsible for such a blunder too!

Yeah I understand that the rules are cut and dry but if so many people are botching the interpretation isn't it time we spell it out for them?

Freddy that's not right.
Last Nbl season & this season in the SEABL the spin move has generally not been called as travel.

I think you are talking about several seasons ago when the Ref boss was Tilden who was a dinasoar who made up his own rules

He got the sack and they brought in Peter Carey, the ex AFL umpire to coach the refs as he was also a high level basketball referee in his own right