Isaac with weigh on the way out, could adelaide afford Ervin and a cheapish swingman? Budget would be the only thing holding Ervin to us back as I've heard he wants to come here.

Ervin to Melb
Wortho to Melb
Weigh to Cns
Hudson to Tsv
Broekhoff to Europe
Motum to Europe
Ellis to Per

Weigh - Cairns
Worthington - Melbourne
Markovic - Melbourne?
Ervin - Adelaide?

Would love to see Ervin in 36ers colours, saw Tweets from Joey to both Ervin and Ere about next year,

possibly just banter between joey and Ere, but Joey was asking him to come back and Ere said email me, so who knows maybe there is some interest there.

Would love either of these guys, i doubt we could afford both, if i had to chose id take Ere as i think with Gibson and Cadee in the line up id use Ere as a sg/sf and play Gibson at Pg a fair bit, with a cheaper import combo guard to round out the guard rotation.

Looks very promising and exciting if we could get either Ervin or Ere,

Usually agree with Isaac but I don't think Hurdle is an NBL quality import. Maybe if he comes very cheap. I think there are better options out there.

I actually dont mind the Hurdle suggestion as the cheap 2nd import.

I would also play gibson at pg, hurdle sg, and get a stud import sg/sf Ebi Ere would be perfect, or someone of similar style/skill.

With Creek and Cadee rounding out the pg/sg/sf rotation, to me that would be very good and affordable.

Lets face it we are likely to have to get a cheap import, with a stud, may as get a guy who is decent at most things, a good showman at times and is known to be a good person around the league. His stats while not super star quality were solid, especially if he is on the cheap side. He is also young so could stick around for a few years and carve out a nice career in the NBL imo as i dont think he will get the big o/s offers, which is also a bonus. Hawks didnt struggle with him in the team, infact if he and the other starters didnt get hurt they would have made playoffs imo.

Sure if you have plenty of $$ to throw at a 2nd import then do it, but if need someone on the cheap then Hurdle would be ok to me.

Would be very keen on the 36ers getting Ervin but Hurdle isn't an NBL standard import and would rather take a chance on someone else.

I would think that there would be multiple teams interested in CJ now that he is not an import

I'm not that big on Ervin. Personally I think he's a tad overrated (really struggled when I saw him last year) and he brings no outside shot. An area we really struggled with. Which worries me even more with the talk of replacing Weigh with Creek in the starting 5

Schenscher, DJ, Creek, Gibson, Ervin...They would be fighting each other in the paint.
Although its probably dreaming, Ere>>>>>Ervin in terms of talent and need right now. Both would be amazing but unrealistic.

I also don't understand why we need a PG? I think Gibson is a very good Pg and Cadee is a very good backup.

Yea Hawks should definatly get a SEABL type import on low wage, better than most of the available aussies going around.

Hawks didnt make playoffs with Ervin, that was the year before he got there.

Just read Botys blog re imports he is suggesting get KB to scout someone out not necessarily from a big college.

I must admit i like Botis thinking, Ebi Ere, Chris Williams, Dusty Rychart are proof of guys not from big programs who have played NBL and been very successful, Dusty playing his whole career here, and was very very good and great value for money especially early in his career.

2 guys i have seen who could fit the bill are BJ Young and Marshawn Powell from Arkansas, both dont appear likely to be on NBA rosters or high draft picks and not sure either would get big offers elsewhere so could be a way of getting 2 good players at a good price. Arkansas is where Ervin went to college and saw a couple of games last season.

Young is a 6,3 scoring combo guard, averaged 15ppg in college, Ervin averaged 10ppg. Would be a decent scoring guard in the NBL imo. On the mock draft i saw is picked to be a late 2nd rounder, so unlikely to be on a NBA roster, so could be worth a look. Uses his speed and quickness to put points on the board, not a great outside shot, but ok. I think he would be a good fit along side gibbo in the back court.

Powell is a 6'7 forward, from what i saw he could play minutes at sf/pf and even pinch hit at C if required. A good long athletic guy, i reckon at worse he would be similar to Shane Edwards at best he could be more Chris Williams, to me he is the type of fwd who generally does well at NBL level. His college stats are similar to Williams, Powell 14ppg, 5 rbpg, 1 apg, Williams 14ppg, 6rbpg, 2 apg. in the games i saw he seemed to have a decent mid range game aswell as being able to get inside with his quickness and size. He isnt projected to be drafted so could possibly be very available and affordable for a NBL team. Most athletic guys of his size, athleticism and skill set typically do well in the NBL, Williams and Brooks to name a couple.

If we got these 2 guys, the other benefit would be they have played together before, and if they have a good relationship on and off the court it could be perfect. They also could be the types to stick around, not being from big schools or chased by NBA.

We need a guy who wants the ball in his hands down the stretch and a guy who can deliver such as Gary Ervin. Face facts joey is bringing in an import pg as he did at the blaze why not bring in a proven guy.

Isaac,

Hurdle only shot 38.6% from the field last season.

Hurdle averaged 11ppg, 1 apg, 3 rbg, 39% fg, 36% 3pt in 27 min pg.

Gibson 11ppg, 5apg, 4rpg, 40%fg, 33% 3pt in 32 min pg.

Given Gibson is seen to be a star Aussie in the NBL, Hurdle must be considered atleast a half decent import, his numbers are not really that different. The Hawks were in the top 4 before he, Saville and Martin went down, so not exactly a bad player on a bad team or anything.

Sure you wouldnt break the bank to get Hurdle, but he is good option and likely to be good value for money if looking for a cheaper import.

The fact he is young, seen to be a good person and knows the league is also a bonus.

Being able to jump is just about the only thing Hurdle can do.

Why all the Hurdle hate?

Sure he aint Cedric Jackson, but he is a solid enough import and a good pick up on the cheap imo.

Stats up well against Gibbo and any other Aussie guard, and would likely cost alot less than the good Aussie guards. I bet he earnt less than half of Gibbos wage last season and basically did aswell. How is that a bad player.

He wasnt the number 1 scoring option, could possibly score a bit more if he was, remember Deleon was there in the backcourt with him.

Also said to be a good guy who wont upset team chemistry, Hawks people seem to think very highly of him and with his athleticism and dunks could be a bit of an excitement machine at times and even put some bums on seats.

Pair him with Gibbo and a long athletic import stud forward (either a sg/sf or sf/pf, i could see benefits in going either way) and we have a good, potentially exciting winning team.

Not saying we have to get Hurdle but if we are looking for a cheap import guard he would be a good pick up imo.

Comparing Gibson and Hurdles stats shows a very limited understanding of what those guys bring to a team. Gibson contributes a lot that doesnt show for boxscore warriors.

But Hurdle is a good option if you want a value for money import at the 2. He is a solid player and citizen.

Exactly Isaac,

Interesting re Lisch, would be a great signing,

If Lisch and Ervin are more or less the same price id probably take Lisch, but you cant lose by grabbing Ervin, Lisch is just a bit bigger and has a better outside shot.

If Lisch is significantly more costly id take Ervin, as i want them to sign a good, athletic sf aswell so wouldnt want signing Lisch to prevent this.

Either way cant lose, would be a great signing for the 36ers if they got either guy!

Best of luck to Joey and KB in singing 2 quality imports!

Can't say I would like us to sign Lisch doesn't offer much else if his shot isn't on which seems to be most games these days.

Ervin is twice the player he is and has a lot more strings to his bow.

Lisch for mine, contributes all over the court and a brilliant team man.

Other than that example I've never seen outstanding defence from Lisch, it's more Bevo's system that makes him and others look like great defenders.