The Spurs will take them in 5 games

Ha ha ha ha oh Ingles...how are those predictions going mate? lol

For a shit team with an over rated player, they seemed to finish ABOVE the Rockets, and Kobe played BETTER than Harden. Harden, your CLUTCH boy CHOKED!
Do you actually follow basketball at all, or just read articles on websites?

somebody please link me to where I stated the Lakers wouldn't make the playoffs and they would finish below the rockets. Please.

Lol @ bringing up individual stats instead of advanced stats. Rookie confirmed.

If you're going to troll this thread and turn it into a Kobe vs Harden debate, you will lose every time

Using FG% is nice, but why not TS% ? Is it because Harden has a higher TS% than Kobe? .602 > .570. Lol at saying Kobe is more efficient but not bringing up their TS%. Harden also has a much higher PER, despite having a lot less talent around him.

And don't compare the LACK of help Harden has on the rockets compared to Kobe. Gasol, Dwight, Nash are all better than ANYBODY on the rockets roster.

Without Harden, the rockets would be a 20-25 win team and that is not debatable.

The Lakers were 4-1 without Kobe this season. There is no need to be upset that Kobe Bryant has been exposed this year as very very neutral when it comes to winning games. The Lakers are a MUCH better team when the offense runs through Pau and Howard, creating open 3 point shooters everywhere. And yes, I've watched every single dribble of the last 3 lakers games.

4-1 without kobe, and that doesn't even include the game against GS where the lakers were down when he got injured, BUT won in the CLUTCH despite not having God Kobe to win them the game.

4-1 without kobe
1-0 in spite of kobe
40-36 WITH kobe

1. Numbers ARE better. You're just looking at pointless stats like PPG and the like. Check their clutch stats, their TS%, win shares and advanced stats. There's a reason advanced metrics are taking over in the NBA.

2. No rings in 3 years, really his fault. How many did Kobe have after 3 years? oh that's right. 0.

3. Harden might have a more spread floor, but he has NOWHERE near the interior presence of Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol (both top 20 players in the league). I'd take Dwight and Pau over any single rockets player if I was trying to WIN

4. Don't bring up the coaching changes, injuries etc. A few teams sacked their coaches or they had to leave for family reasons. And injuries are a part of every team. The Pacers lost their (previously) best player for basically the entire season and finished #3. The knicks had a multitude of injuries to nearly all of their players and they stayed #2.

ha ha owned by an anon.. I like!

So my point is you love a SG who's numbers arent better and hasn't won a ring.

The rockets were 43-35 when Harden played this season. In the 4 games he missed, they went 2-2.

Lakers: 4-1 without Kobe
Rockets: 2-2 without Harden

and find me an advanced stat that Kobe leads Harden in
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2013_leaders.html



This didn't have to turn into a Harden v Kobe debate, but once again, I've had to educate the Kobetards on here that Kobe is flat out overrated.

No more rings for kobe
Dwights a money hungry punk
The kids on the come up are getting better every year
Expect to see more chinese players in the next 10-20 years

I think sometimes teams like the lakers play above their potential when kobe is not playing, (inspirational basketball) however if Kobe was to miss 20-30 games in a row i would think that they would be lucky to be a .500 team. Just my opinion but I reckon that this will stand out against the spurs and if the spurs sweep they will be 4-5 without Kobe.

just listen to any opposition coach upon game preparation with and without Kobe. I guarantee they'd rather #24 is not playing

Wait, I'm not arguing Kobe all time vs Harden. I'm stating that the lakers are better this season Kobe misses games. 4-1. Numbers don't lie. It's the sensitive trolls in here that turned it into a Kobe v harden debate

What were the lakers odd vs the spurs/OKC in the playoffs before the kobe injury?
I would have given them a 4-2 loss to SA (they're banged up ATM)and a 4-1 loss to OKC with that single win being a refball game (just like game 3 vs okc last year).

I now give them a LEGIT shot vs the spurs to advance. Infact, If their odds for the series are $2.40+ I'm probably gonna chuck my entire betting account on them to win

You're all Kobetards anyway

Sick of educating you.

I'm pretty sure that a sample size of 5 games out of an 82 game NBA season is not enough to measure anyone's impact.

plus these last few games are all or nothing for LA. ofcourse they are going to compete.

Ingles is just a massive troll with no idea how the game of basketball works and cant play if his life depended on it!

Lakers will beat the Spurs in 6

Its funny that Ingles13 claims some superior knowledge of advanced stats but then tries to display a trend after just 6% of the games.

according to your TS% Julyan Stone is best player in NBA (by far)....WOW

@ingle13

Maybe Kobe is overated these days.. His season stats lower than Harden. Oh dear. You do mean season stats right? Not playoff stats. Or the stats you can't measure in a championship playoff game when it comes to THAT MOMENT, when a player has to pickup and carry a game when it most matters. When commodities such as desire, persistence, hunger, determination, will, shall I go on, etc. can be measured then stats might mean something. Maybe we can ask MJ or Kobe how we could measure those.

The answer will probably lie on their fingers (yes plural)

4-1 without Kobe. Numbers do not lie

The numbers don't lie, but how you choose to interpret them is a different matter altogether.

Why are anons bringing up what Kobe did 6 it 7 YEARS ago? This is about the lakers being a much better TEAM this season WITHOUT Kobe. Trolls gonna troll like usual

Trolls gonna troll like usual

4-1

Ring count: 5-0 end of story

Once again, kobetards turning this into a Harden v Kobe debate, when this topic is about Kobe's NEGATIVE impact on his team this season. Troll's gonna troll. Has Harden ever played with HOF big men like shaq, Gasol, Bynum or Dwight? Simple answer. No.

I feel guilty falling into the troll bait you kobetards are throwing because you can't accept that Kobe is OVER RATED.

Hey Ingles, how did your Butt Boy Harden go today??

Thats right 6/19 with 2 assists, 20 points.

OVER RATED

I hope we see this series go to seven this thread could really seesaw!