Aristotle, posting them all would be a pretty monumental task. If you tell me what age group/s and division/s, I will post them for you.

16 Girls teams (divisions)

Centrals 1-3
Mavs 1-2
Forestville 1-2-2-3-3
North 1-3
Norwood 1-2-2-3
South 1-2-3
Southern 1-2-3
Sturt 1-2
West 1-2-3
Western 2-3-3
Woodville 2

14 Girls teams (divisions)

Centrals 1
Mavs 1-2
Forestville 1-2-2-3-4-4
North 1-2-3
Norwood 1-2-3-4
South 2-4
Southern 1-3
Sturt 1-2-3-3-4
West 1-2-3-4
Western 2
Woodville 2

Quite simply, Western DID NOT nominate this team for Div 2 and Norwood did. Blame Western, not the comp committee.

No, still in div 2 and did not nominate for div 1.

No.
Where their junior teams are nominated and placed has no bearing whatsoever on ABL nominations.

Can someone list the 18's please?

Can people from the magic be blocked from this site

701, I can list 18s for you. Boys or girls?

If south get an under 18 girls div 1 team then the competition committee is a waste of time, seeing as the new coach is on the committee

Anon 796 And what is wrong with that?

South are obviously looking to establish themselves and the only way you can do that is to have teams in Div 1.

The post above this one proves evrything that is wrong with the competition.

Simply, the reason South should not have a Div 1 team is that they are really really bad and it is not fair on the good teams to have to play them.

How does getting smashed every week help to establish yourself?

And yes, South have a Div 1 team for winter.

Absolute disgrace that they are putting div 2 girls that finished 7th in summer into div 1, they will be out of their depth

Good on em.

You could always take the glass half empty approach and just sit in Div never attracting better players and or seeing which of those girls can make the grade.

They won't attract better players, the coach was at country champs watching div 3 teams, mass exodus from Souths girls is my prediction

Anon 798

Why don't you ask Centrals and Tigers that how they have handled getting smashed every week. Oh in Division 1

Attracting better players? How naive could you possibly be? Just putting them in Div 1 and having them get smashed every week does not attract better players.

Fixing up your junior program by getting some better people in place might be a start. The coach in question is already pretty much a joke amongst basketball people. Why would anybody want to go to a failing program with a coach way out of their depth?

It's a vicious cycle. Good people won't go there because the program is so bad, and the program is bad because good people won't go there.

Anon 811

Southerns under 12 div 1 team is in the grand final!! 10's finished 4th, 16's finished 6th and are going to get better very quickly so I wouldn't say southerns div 1 teams get flogged all the time!

Umm, 813...you need to read the whole thread before you start shooting your mouth off. The post was about the 18s, but good on your 12s for making the final anyway!

Ok well centrals and southerns 18's will enjoy flogging a div 2 south team for half a season until they have to be pulled out

The above shows why promotion/relegation is a must for our competition. These poor girls are going to be slaughtered just so a club can spruik how they have a div 1 team...

Same as with Woodville in 14 girls.

Certain referee's from South and Woodville look to have obviously been on he phone togetherputting teams out of their depth trying to stop the likes of Sturt and Forestville from getting 2 teams in div 2 and they think that haveing div 1 teams with mean kids will move to them.

All this sort of behaviour has shon is that they lose more kids over time. And basketball is worse off.

Next step will probably be South 18s and Woodville 14s complaining that other clubs aren't showing "good sportsmanship" by belting them by big numbers...

@771 Boys please..

and here's 2c, What is wrong with players wanting to take the plunge into Div 1 and getting slaughtered week in/out? they may die by the sword or those players may become really great diamonds forged from the pressure.. Some will crumble and some with survive build a stronger team for the next year is the goal sheesh its a not uncommon, not all clubs can keep top stocks at all ages groups. 18's is the worse cause the mentality of parents and some players is I'll just go to a better team where it's easier.

Parents need to be left at the front door IMO they can do more damage than it's worth with their grand notions, that and coaches who are so determined to get of inflating their EGO while their heads up their clacker allowing teams to go out and slaughter a team 100 - 2 instead of using these games to deploy challenging defenses or offenses that teach their players how to win in tough games.

Your "sportsmanship" comment is exactly what I mean, I'd really like to see the stats on how many times percentage has really made the difference in winning a championship. there's a huge difference between a 200+% win 75-80 to 30 compared to some pathetic psychotic efforts I've seen a particular club force children and parents to witness on the receiving end all the while the chardonnay sipping douche parents froth at the mouth screaming at their kids to just get those extra point to score 100..

Rant/

So good teams should teach their players NOT to play hard EVERY possession because the opposition is not up to the standard? No matter what rules you put in place, there is still going to be margins of 70-odd unless you pretty much say "don't try".
If a team loses 100-2 they should NOT be in that division! It is not the fault of the team scoring 100, it is the fault of the club of the team scoring 2 exposing players to a standard which they are not ready for. And they will quit or move because of it. Either way, that club (if they move) or the sport (if they quit) is a loser.

"supercoach" has clearly never coached at a decent level. In the case of u18 girls, why should a good team getting ready for State Champs or Classics get into stupid habits like that in a game against South, who should do the right thing and play in div 2.

Anyone who expects the good teams to do anything except play hard all the time should be in social basketball, not district.

1 team per division is what is needed

this would force kids playing for sturt div 2 team 3 to move clubs for more opportunity, playing div 1 at south would be better than playing div 3 at sturt or forestville.

but we know this wont happen

And the reason that won't happen is because it's been found to be incorrect. Those kids won't go to play div 1 elsewhere, they'll play another sport which can put them in an appropriately graded competition.

Those kids are wise enough to realise they're div 2 standard kids, or else they'd crack div 1 at their own club.

It's nice in theory to say "let's demote these kids from clubs who do a good job of developing them & other clubs will benefit from their hard work" but the simple fact is, the vast majority you'll lose to the sport altogether.

Their aim shouldn't be to attract players from other clubs, their aim should be to sufficiently develop their own kids so that they are competitive in division 1.

Adding a player or two from another club to achieve this is fine, but relying on full teams worth of kids from stronger clubs to move over is ridiculous.

Should be pro/rel, top 8 teams only make div 1. Then we'd have a competitive competition.

The last sentence in the post above is the most sensible thing in this thread.

**Sorry, it was two sentences!

Bart - you also have no hope of attracting players to your team that is losing by 70-80 most weeks!

Correct, 8 teams in D1 only.