Wayne, Don't forget to hit the refresh button. Maybe BASA could have a look at why VBA are better organised than they are!

VBA better organised? Same number of teams every year, probably same time slots, plenty of courts. Comparing the Classics with State Champs is like comparing Apples with Apes...

SA teams put in Div 1 2 3 and the stadiums don't change. VBA still get their stuff out at least 2 weeks before the carnival. BASA can't even get it out 2 hours before the event. I am still waiting on out printed program for State champs. Pegs you must be a BASA groupy to stick up those clowns.

Pegs does have a point. In theory BV can just copy last years draw and re issue it for 2005. In fact nothing is to say they won't. The actually nomination/qualification process for Classics would be the more time consuming for BV then the actal program.

Also if I'm not mistaken the POOLS for Classics are up not the actual Draw.

As far as a Draw for State Champs up until the due date BASA would have no idea how many teams each club will nominate. Classics run on invite, State Champs based on club's nominations. While the court space is there no one could possibly due a draw for State champs until after every club has completed their nominations.

In the know if you have a problem with the way the State Champs were run (and you clearly are not alone) then may I suggest speaking to your Club's Junior Committee rep. and get changes made before 2006.

They do.

Well obviously but that wasn't the point being iscussed at the time. As everyone in Basketball in SA knows there are major issues of neglect when it comes to local baskeball; state champs being one example.

Comedy...

I am not going to stick up for BASA for their organisation, I think they need a swift kick up the pants. I was pointing out the obvious, that organising the draw and pools for the Classics is much easier than State Champs.

Classics 16(teams) x 4(ages) x 2(genders) = 128 teams (static)

State champs 8(teams conservative) x 3(grades) x 2(genders) x 5(ages) = 240 teams (dynamic)

I even do the Math for you :-)

Now to compare apples with apples, follow VV's link. The Vics already have a schedule for:

10(teams) x 5(ages) x 2(genders) x 2(pools) + 12(teams) x 5(ages) x 2(genders) x 3(grades) = 560 teams.

Compared with 412 teams for BASA (give or take a few). Shame, shame, shame BASA! (Is that better In The Know? :-)

Intheknow
thanks for the tip but it worked fine first time, obviously the techie gods were smiling in the right direction this time!!!

One thing I find interesting is that a lot of their info is in the form of pdf files which is possibly a lot easier to upload and change than sporting pulse????

They are certainly better organised.

On a basketball note my pool and Boti's look OK as do some of the other grades. I hope we can all do well - it is a great weekend.
(I just wish the youngies were at Albert Park)

Yes Pegs a lot better.

Anyone mind posting the draw up here for those with crap internet/problems with IE?

Pools would be great!

Pools only at this stage. Go to VBA website and click on VJBL and follow info bar.

Classic pools address:
http://www.vjbl.com.au/assets/Classic/Team%20Pools.pdf