Teams named last weekend, not released on BSA website yet. A few changes from Kilsyth 2011 for the girls... Defintely necessary but whether or not their placing improves shall be interesting to see...

Actually TB the teams were announced this afternoon, just a few hours ago. Hardly time for BSA to get them on the website yet!

Funny, I heard the girls team on Monday, from the parent of a selected child...

The girls team was SELECTED last week. It will be ANNOUNCED when it is announced. Selected and announced do not mean the same thing.
You think the Australian cricket team only find out they are in when it gets announced in the paper or on the Circket Australia website? Of course the girls and their families knew

Saw the Vic Metro boys team play last week, they will be very hard to beat...

A few bottom age players, but that won't hold them back! I would expect NSW to be strong and Vic Country should push for a top 4 spot, so you guys from S.A. may again be watching other states play in the finals?

Tassie boys to medal after consecutive 4th placings in 2011 and 2012 in Under 16's.

Sorry, forgot about Tassie, yes they are a chance in this age group for sure, some good young talent there!

Still puts S.A. down another peg though IMO...

Teams up;

http://www.basketballsa.com.au/index.php?id=62&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=778&tx_ttnews[backPid]=1&cHash=2234b9153d

Tasmanian Boys = Gold

Apparently the girls played an Under 16 Boys Div 2 team over the weekend and won by 6.
Would that be an acceptable result??

My comment of "definitely necessary" related to the fact that changes had to be made from the 2011 side. It was more of a general statement about the team. Not once did I say that I personally agree or disagree with the team that was selected.

Every time an SA team has under performed at Nationals in recent years, the posts on this forum call for change. Whether it be coaching or players, that is always the theme. It's finally happened and yet there is still criticism...?

I also think that the West player mentioned above was unlucky to miss out, and there are some selections that seem to have come from left field. But 9th in Kilsyth is, in my eyes, an unacceptable result. As a state we should be better than that. Surely taking the same 10 players across would be a silly idea?

Like I said originally, it remains to be seen whether or not these player changes will actually improve the result, but at least there is the change that everyone was demanding.

actually TB change for change sake is NOT the answer

look what that did for the country in the last election

just pick the BEST team available

without any backroom deals, golden handshakes, Club loyalties or favourites

THEN we might have a chance of competing on the National stage ...instead of the upcoming humiliation

How about change for better performance? Because that's actually what I said. This group should be better than 9th, and if the players from 2 years ago couldn't get the result why should they be rewarded with another selection?

As anon says above, we won't know until competition week if the selection improves the result. So we will just have to wait and see.

The bias of the Norwood coach selecting Norwood players is not a new issue. And as long as he continues to coach this age group it always will be.

The West player is beyond unlucky. I agree she should have been picked. I am not, and have not, said otherwise. But there are three other players who attended Kilsyth in the metro team that wont be playing this year. I think that is a fair decision based on their previous result.

form should be the selection key - doesnt matter what you did last year

Interesting to hear what SA goes through. Similar in Vic. If you really want to have a chance at playing in State play at Melbourne!

Sorry didn't express myself. Melbourne Girls.

Only a month or so to go.

Any more Under 18 news or talk .....

Vic Country and Vic Metro entered the Big V tournament in Frankston last week. By all accounts they aquitted themselves well. Results show Metro won one game and both under 18 teams scored okay, but I wasn't there so I have no first hand knowledge...

BA post today on the website:

" ..... Local talents who will look to follow in the Opals' and Boomers’ footsteps include up and coming 16 year old Bridie Kennedy-Hopoate from Brisbane, who was Queensland South’s top scorer and rebounder when they claimed silver at last year’s U16 National Championships.

She will be joined by 2012 team mate Bridget O’Brien and 17 year old local Kristy Wallace, who won silver at last year’s U18’s Nationals.

In the men’s division, Jack McVeigh is a player to watch. The Gold Coast Sea Hawks junior was the youngest player for Queensland South in the U18’s last year finishing sixth top point scorer overall with 17.2 points and third top rebounder (12.4).

McVeigh was identified as an outstanding talent and selected to the Basketball Australia Centre of Excellence program at the AIS for 2013. He will be joined by Darrell McDowell-White, son of Brisbane Lions AFL star Darryl White in an impressive Queensland South line-up."

How do BA justify this biased wrap on players to watch? Queensland is host, sure. But balanced reporting it aint. This is Aus champs not state. C'mon BA media writers, lift your game. Some professionalism please.

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Thanks Anonymous. Not !

Oh dear. You aint getting my drift.

For someone claiming to be so freakin' intelligent, to use your words:

"You didn't read real carefully did you?"

I acknowledged the event was in Queensland you turkey, the fact of the matter is this was posted on the Basketball Australia website not Basketball Queensland. If that point is lost on you I give up.

Again to use your phrase:

"It's not that difficult to follow is it?"

Might have been written to be dual-purpose, run mostly to attract local interest. Hardly a big deal?

Correct Isaac. Might be dual purpose. Big deal? No. My opinion? Yes.

Anonymous,

I bet your the sort of smartarse who was the schoolground bully. Used to thump people, now resorts to running people down on-line. Even when his argument is weak and in black-and-white, just plain wrong. Seen it all before.

Don't mind a discussion and disagreement but can't stand smartarses. And you my friend, in my assessment, whether your Basketball IQ is 85 or 185 fit that category perfectly.

C'mon.

Turkey is pretty tame. And I aint claiming to be the intellectual in this case. Your taking the high ground and effecting the comedic put-downs.

You just expect to have the last word which has bully written all over it. Go and kick the footy, not your dog.

On the U18 page, the news article was very generic for however many paragraphs, and then had a "Further Information" section at the end that was specifically about the local talent appearing in Brisbane. It was as bold as to mention that right away:

"Local talents who will look to follow in the Opals' and Boomers’ footsteps..."

Can you explain why it would be a big deal to write a generic article about a competition in a specific locale, and then extend that to cover items of interest to those in that general location? It seems very reasonable and probably even ideal to me. Each state can obviously write up their local talents for their own sites and media releases.

Well Anonymous,

Forgive me. Maybe if you took a more original name I could get it right.

Isaac and you multiple anonymous's have a view and I have mine. I hear what you guys are saying but I still don't agree. No matter.

As for the name calling, please! As I said before turkey is pretty tame and "smartarse" is fairly moderate language. And I don't regret using it.

Might be best to leave my family out of it by the way. Got kids of my own and my mum passed away almost 20 years ago. Thanks very much.

Leave off giving me advice about my family you ignoramus. You don't know me. I posted an opinion. End of story. As I said before, you just want the last word.

What is this, some sort of old boys club? If you disagree with the establishment you're not welcome?

Can you explain why you disagree? In the news item in question, there are ten generic paragraphs before they have the location-specific content.

Page in question.

Feel like I must speak a foreign language.

As I said in the beginning. This is on the BA website about a national tournament. Not on a Basketball Queensland web page about State Champs or similar event. Thought naming only QLD players wasn't right.

Yes Isaac, it may be a promotion to drive the interest of Queensland locals to attend but you must admit the interstate contingent of basketball folks that will attend is considerable. Yes you are right the remaining information is more generic.

That is all.

Never thought this would require so much clarification.

If they only named QLD players in the main part of the article itself, I think you might have some argument (and even then there'd be a reasonable counter-argument) but given how it's actually written out, I think you're way off and, so far, alone in your perspective.

DM,

I think the issue here isn't that we have a boys club but the fact that you had a crack at someone's efforts without providing a reasonable arguement (what most people would consider reasonable) for your outrage.