Don't get me wrong, Crosswhite had a good line for that game, but you've got to give a POTW award to someone who actually won a game.

I think it should have been Flynn getting that award. Great all around game from him and his team won.

Adris' game vs NZ was way better than Crossy's if we are going to give it to someone who was on a losing team!

Jonny Flynn, Ervin & Redhage all were at least equal to him and their teams won!

oh brother!

I like giving it to a player whose team won but Crosswhite's game was exceptional, probably the second best in the league this year. Not only look at his stats (PER 41!) but look at his opponents' stats.

I would have hated to see Flynn, who shot 35% and had six turnovers, get the award.

To be fair to Deleon, he was:

- starting for the first time this season
- down his two usual starting backcourt partners
- basically had Demos as his sidekick
- on the road, in another country
- up against the top team at full strength
- taking on the toughest defender in the league
- shot at 54% for a guard which in any other comparison would be very favourable

Not saying he was POTW favourite given the second game, I think it's harsh to talk down that effort too much.

Deleon needed 35 points not 34 so he's out and I agree with Paul Re:Flynn having to many turnovers.
Crosswhite was to efficient not to get it despite the loss.



Jackson must be getting pretty close to being a lock for Regular Season MVP imo.

"Deleon needed 35 points not 34 so he's out"

So because he didn't single-handedly win the game for the Hawks, that counts him out? What if it was Sav who iced the game for the Hawks from the line - would that make Deleon "out" too?

He hogged the ball for most of the game and took contested shots when he had team mates open and when he had the oppotunity to send the game to OT he choked. So yes he needed 35 points not 34.

"What if it was Sav who iced the game for the Hawks from the line - would that make Deleon "out" too?"

what if Cedric Jackson could fly around the rafters with pink smoke coming out of his arse?

Not sure if that would bring in more or less fans there Mystro ;)

Why don't you provide the other reasons to exclude him first, instead of some crap about missing a free throw, which is plain dumb.

If you can't understand why I threw in a hypothetical that's your problem.

I did, he ball hogged and then choked.

"If you can't understand why I threw in a hypothetical that's your problem."

ah no, it's you who has the problem with the choker not me, I was stoked when he missed that freethrow to send it to OT.
I think Crosswhite who shot the ball incredibly well along with doing all the other things, rebounding, boxing out, playing defence etc was a well deserving winner of POTW.

No you didn't. The reason you gave was that he didn't score the winning bucket. You added the bit about hogging the ball later.

So all things considered, if a guy plays a great game, but ends up not being able to hit the winning shot, that automatically counts him out?

And thats why I asked what if he wasn't involved in the last second shot? What if Sav hit it? Where does that leave him?

yes generally I would say losing doesn't help your cause for POTW.
If Deleon had hit the game winner or Sav had in your hypothetical dream world that mirrors reality, Crosswhites numbers are still better so it still leaves him as a Ball Hog with no award.

normally I wouldn't have agreed with Crosswhite winning it either, as he was on a losing team (I don't really rate losing) but he played exceptionally well which his numbers back up.

SMH

Mystro, I'm not trying to make a case for Deleon to win the award. I was trying to work out why you think that him not hitting the game winner automatically excludes him.

You still don't understand what the analogy was for either, but you haven't said much which makes sense here so I didn't think you'd grasp it.

The Situation, :facepalm:

Correct call, NBL.

Let it go Mystro, the Situation obviously wants to bum Deleon.

Let it go Mystro, the Situation obviously wants to bum Deleon.