Agree 100% anon.

Sixers haven't beaten NZ in how long? Not likely to happen now either.

It'll happen some time. Who would you prefer the Breakers to play in finals? Hawks or Sixers?

Taipans

LOL

I don't mind either way Jack, wanna be the best you gotta beat the best. Also both Championships have come via tough first round playoff series against Perth and then Townsville so prob of benefit imo.

I agree that it's def gonna happen sooner or later (Adelaide getting a win against the Breakers especially with all the talent they have signed) but this Breakers side is currently the best team in the league at closing out tight games and coming back when down and have just done it twice against their bogey team in recent years.

NZ's chemistry and coaching>Adelaide.

Has anyone else ever wonder if NZ's recent practice of just beating Adelaide on BMC has been a deliberate ploy to avoid boredom?

I'm hoping it goes terribly wrong for them on Sunday if that's been the case. I agree with JT- Go Sixers (& not Sixes which is an entirely different organisation!!!!!)

I think and have tipped the 36ers on this one. Hopefully Marty watched the game yesterday and studies how the Hawks contained the Breakers so well.

I think if Adelaide play like they did last week they should be able to take advantage of the tired Breakers.

Gibson, DJ + one other needs to be on aim offensively and the team as a whole must contain the breakers like the hawks did to get the win.

36ers by 14 (or Breakers by 3...)

Wow Jack, you used as many analogies as Lance Armstrong used PED's during his cycling career!

If the team comes out confident and thinks it can win it will. Must take on New Zealand in all aspects (boards, ball pressure etc) and not relent.

The aftermath of this one should be very interesting.

I think this week will say a lot about where the Sixers are at overall. We're playing the benchmark side, we have the 20 point capitulation hanging over our heads and we're in do-or-die mode as far as the finals go.

Was last week a turning point or a brief respite from the slide?

Hoping the Sixers turn it on.

Jack,

"Hackham High"??? No such place exists.

Most of us Hackham boys are old enough to start apprenticeships by the time we graduate from primary school. Why should we bother doing another 10 years of schooling at a high school?

Yeah, I know there's no such place. For most of the Hackham lads I knew year 8 was the best years of high school.

Sixers are a sure thing.

I think it will be close and their is a chance of a Sixers upset but I think winning becomes a habit and habits can be hard to break. 3peat.

spread the load and sixers win. Sixers to win this one.

Breakers are just going at the minute, not blitzing but doing enough to get by.. Sixers by 8.

The Sixers will lose...Breakers by 20

BTW Jacky boy, the locals pronounce it "Ackham" - the H is silent.

It's always a great place for a party.

I just want the boys to play 4 hard quarters and DJ to follow his shot in and crash the boards. Win or lose I got my mullet sorted so I am stoked!!!

Sixers by 5

I've got this crazy vibe. I'm chucking $200 on 6ers 1-10

"Another person to give Gibbo and Steve......a chance to rest"

You know your import isn't awesome if that's listed as one of his main attributes. Plus where Clarke said he "probably not" going to be a superstar. Will be funny if that's what ends up on his NBLWiki page.

"Was not a superstar but was very helpful for resting tired players."

lmao, not the most flattering of comments to the media from your Coach.

I hear through the grapevine that NZ Breakers officials are confident of snapping Marty Clarke's one game winning streak.

However, if we can play the full game like we did the first half against the Breakers two weeks ago, and also how we played against Sydney last week.....this could be our first win against them since Moses was in nappies.

Hopefully we'll get another standing ovation for the 36ers at the end of this afternoon's game.

Go the Sixers.

"If you can catch bargains you can catch balls"

I actually thought Clarkes comments were honest and refreshing. I was good to read his aspect of the current state and not polish it up to be something it's not. They say the best time to judge a leader is when the stocks are at their lowest. Could be a appropriate time to judge..

Are you serious bucket man Marty said scott can "knock shots" how many shots has he got in since he's been here that sounds like a bit of polishing to me also i thought they were looking for an import who can drive to the basket and create his own shot. How many times has scott driven to the basket and kicked the ball back out to the three point line. Everything Marty says is polished to try and make him look like the good guy. Now iv'e got that out the way i really hope last weeks game was the turnning point but iv'e been disappointed to many times to get my hopes up i think NZ probably got a scare against wollongong on friday night and will come out blazing from the start.I will be at the game cheering the 6ers on and willing them to win with all my heart unfortunatly my head is saying we will lose

No Schensh

Some fantastic D being played so far. Oh my Gibson.

Daly to Pero 3 times in a row = huge.

Fuck these refs are terrible.

Like... Really fucking terrible.

don't make excuses guys we're missing our 7 footer as well

@JOaRiDrAN

Do yourself a favour....ignore future 'Crazy Vibes'.

You have to wonder what happens at half time for the Sixers.

Really, the game was lost in the first 6 minutes after half time when the Sixers didn't look like scoring and no adjustments were made. Corletto was left open and rattled off about 10 points of his own. The game was relatively even apart from that stretch. Obviously NZ pulled away in junk time in the 4th quarter.

Last time these 2 teams played when the Sixers coughed up a 20 point lead their third quarter was also terrible.

JOaRiDrAN, how was that $200 bet?


Abercrombie coming right by the looks and good contribution from the bench.

Great decision from Marty not to put Pero back on after halftime after he had provided such a spark in the first. No feel for the game whatsoever.

Christopherson isn't half the player Massingale is. Tom Daly should start the next game in Cadee's place too.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO MORE TO SAY BRING ON THE END OF THE YEAR. Daly Cadee Christpherson DJ between them shot 11 points,11points DJ had 7 points from fts what a disgrace so much for CHRISTOPHSON can shoot , maybe if he had a GUN. one thing missed Luke bad.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO MORE TO SAY BRING ON THE END OF THE YEAR. Daly Cadee Christpherson DJ between them shot 11 points,11points DJ had 7 points from fts what a disgrace so much for CHRISTOPHSON can shoot , maybe if he had a GUN. one thing missed Luke bad.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO MORE TO SAY BRING ON THE END OF THE YEAR. Daly Cadee Christpherson DJ between them shot 11 points,11points DJ had 7 points from fts what a disgrace so much for CHRISTOPHSON can shoot , maybe if he had a GUN. one thing missed Luke bad.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH NO MORE TO SAY BRING ON THE END OF THE YEAR. Daly Cadee Christpherson DJ between them shot 11 points,11points DJ had 7 points from fts what a disgrace so much for CHRISTOPHSON can shoot , maybe if he had a GUN. one thing missed Luke bad.

I agree Daly and Pero combined well and I was bemused as to why Pero didn't get another spell. He'll get cut next week for not missing lol.

No they had 19 between them

Still laughing at the decision made to sack Massingale. They then replace him with a guy who would struggle at SEABL level. Sadly this decision not only cost Adelaide a few wins, but might also finish off the club overall.

Dumbest decision of the season so far. Marty is responsible.

The reason Christopherson does so well in training is that he is up against Adelaide all week!

pen if you count free throws, its still a disgrace what ever way you look at it. Still trying to make sense of his ( martys ) moves in second half the guy has a split personality no way you can coach well 1st half and lose the plot in the second, may he should piss if his assistant if he is giving him advise

@anon..

Gibbo, Cadee, Weigh and DJ combined for 7 / 31...and you are layig abuse on a minimum import who shot @ 50%?

Luke's abscence was matched by Pledger's.

"Really, the game was lost in the first 6 minutes after half time when the Sixers didn't look like scoring and no adjustments were made."

That is spot on. Six minutes without scoring and not a sub? After the bench had played so well in the first half? It even took five minutes for a time-out.

When your team has a history of second half fadeouts you just have to be more proactive than that as a coach.

New Zealand... LOL... Why is there a Country playing in a city vs city league ? Insert Benny Hill music..

Plain and simple; too much depth.

@Guns...

The Massingale decision was RATIFIED BY THE BOARD.

But don't let it get in the way of Marty bashing...its been 2 weeks so I guess its all built up over time.

I suppose now is as good a time as ever, losing to the competition leaders whilst the 4 of the starters shoot 7 / 31...

Yup...all Marty's fault that one.

I have to laugh at all the 'where was Pero' posts.

All year you have all posted 'Why is Pero on ffs', now this.

I feel sorry for the coach of these 'most knowledgable' fans.

"The reason Christopherson does so well in training is that he is up against Adelaide all week!"

That's gold! I imagine he doesnt face anything nearly as daunting as Abercrombie.

was waiting for you MC to come out from under your rock yes blame him after all IT was Marty WHO said this guy can shoot, well how many games does he need to show how well he shoots, please do tell after all you were the one saying how fans should get behind Martys decisions as coach once again his decisions have be shown up as bull shit so back of the fans.

Really dissapointing performance. Just looked so disorganised and uninspired. Really thought we were a chance at this one, home court, nz backing up etc. Clarkes rotations really are questionable. Why did daly play the entire last qtr when season is on the line? Cannot work out the persistance with playing 3 point guards at once. Still looked disorganised.

Yeah, obviously you gotta acknowledge nz as a very decent team, but they were hardly pushed out of 1st gear and just coasted along all game on an opposotion court. Just wasn't a good enough performance given the importance of the result I.M.O.

At least the first quarter had an element of fun to it with the Daly-Pero combo scoring machine and the heritage Sixers Girls dusting off the dance moves. In this case it truly was a bit of heritage as it reminded me of what it used to be like to go to the Powerhouse...

@Big Ads..

The sixers normally have Anthony Petrie as sixth man, then Creek, then an IMPORT.

@BK, I broadly commented on Clarkes comments, didn't say I agreed with them all. It's clear christopherson isn't firing, but his history suggests he can definitely shoot. He is just not doing it for us!!!

NZ deserves credit for their second half and we need our heads analysed. Maybe it's a less energy = poor decision making from some of our players, not sure but something clearly is a miss. While Clarke deserves criticism, I'm not sure he or any coach could influence our players in a manner that could reverse their mind set. NZ lift the intercity, we pack our dacks and make immature errors. It would do your head in if you we're in charge.

Clearly Schenscher is a integral cog in our system. Hope he is back from now on.

Marcus, I seem to remember the board making it absolutely clear that it was Clarke's decision to give CJ the boot. How could they not? Then they'd have to fire Clarke. I think it is a simple case of giving the man enough rope... Wish CJ could play for the Hawks. That would at least add some spice to the rest of this sorry season.

^^ Should have read - How could they not ratify Clarke's decision...

Ratified by the board means "we will back your decision" The board have been doing this now for 3 years. Must be killing them financially and emotionally.

Haven't felt so sour about a loss all year. That's probably because it's usually the team's incompetence that costs them, but I really think we would have been a great chance today with some half-decent officiating.

The amount of times those guys can fall for blatant flops and yet miss so many legitimate hacks is baffling and just about unwatchable.

I

I'm surprised that time out with 1min 29 secs to play didn't spark a 15 point turn around for us.

But that's certainly no excuse for what happened after half time and the crazy coaching all game.

I'm getting sick of waiting for DJ to become the player we know he can be. He's soft and I'm pretty sure he always will be. His defensive laziness cost us multiple buckets in that second half. We're not winning a championship with him as a starting big.

Petrie, on the other hand, was absolutely brilliant at both ends. He's a star.

Why didn't Pledger play?

Christopherson barely gets the ball. Both him and weigh would benifit from better offensive systems.

The pattern of the season is all to familiar-positive start, string of losses, glimourbof hope (sydney game) but followed by a poor performance. Obviously never expected the breakers to be pushovers, but sensed a more inspired performance after last week. Really was ugly in that 2nd half.

Not sure cadee is really benifiting at all from playing under clarke, nor was mitch and weigh is not. Developement player is taking his minutes, confidence looks shot.

Good first half ,getting everyone involved,Pero not playing 2nd half i dont understand,Daly Pero combination was good .sixers 10 points in 3rd,2nd half fade again .Sixers need start winning again but i doubt they will win 50%of their remainder games.

The "old style" cheerleaders were the highlight. I've re-fallen in love with one of them. Not too sure of her name

Pledger rolled his ankle against the Hawks on Thursday. Was a maybe to play but is still hobbling around on it.

Only Hudson didn't score in double figures out of NZ's starters. All of NZ's players bar the injured Pledger scored and Adelaide matched NZ on the rebound count.

Yep, they made my afternoon too Jack.

I was hoping for a dance off Big Ads.

Scott would have more chance getting shots from Daly then Crosswell. Interesting week of training this week because we know the scout report has us pegged. We need to change the way we play. However every side knows ramp up the D at the start of the third and we stagnate

Jack yes some of the cheerleaders caught my eye...mainly Tina and Emma forgotten rest of others,they must be in their late 30s maybe your eyein the blond

We looked very disorganised for long stretches and then battled even at the other times. This system can make competent players look anything but.

Our spacing is pretty dismal. Players draw defenders in to situations that favour the opposition. Off the ball, others don't always move to smart positions. Given space, we look out of room. In tight spaces, the Breakers looked mostly in control and with options. In some patches, we were lucky to be level with them.

Christopherson has been pretty disappointing, even on a budget. Doesn't have the benefit of years in or around the league, but still seems less reliable than an 11th man at times. Rough coming in to this squad.

Something was up with Cadee in this game. Came off at one point (last sub?) and seemed pretty dejected. DJ spoke with him, consoling him it seemed. His minutes went to Daly after that?

Besides Petrie's game and some of Daly's, there weren't too many positives to take out of the game for the 36ers.

Double the dancers was great though, and the MC's outfit. And getting Dennard there.

That 3rd quarter after Lemanis adjusted to the D was humorous... How far behind did Marty want to let his team fall behind before changing it up, on both ends.

Cadee hasn't looked confident all season. I think these young players are convinced that playing under him is in the best interest of their careers, when really, they actually seem to be suffering? I really rate weigh as a player but he just looks lost out there sometimes, under that system.

@Anon'805...

Re : Letting Marty go.

I believe this article sums if up very well.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/change-of-coach-too-risky-for-adelaide-36ers/story-fndekpx4-1226556111810

Even at the very top, it is believed that getting rid of Marty could jeopardise the rest of the season.

As I have said all along Marty has the support of the 6er organisation, TOP TO BOTTOM.

It seemed the plan was to exploit Christopherson's size on defence. Abercrombie backed him down and shot over the top of him while Henry "All I do at BMC is chuck bricks" Henry and "i prefer Drumsticks" Corletto got easy looks against him at the perimeter. Breakers put on a master class of recognising how to best exploit the Sixers on defence.

Wonder how useful Warbout would have been if given the job of bumping around Mika and keeping him off the boards.

Hah Marcus Camby...once again taking the piss out of everyone!

"Wonder how useful Warbout would have been if given the job of bumping around Mika and keeping him off the boards."

Would have racked up 5 fouls in 3 minutes with that bullshit officiating.

Vukona would've run riot.

Christopherson -1 Cadee 1 Weigh 2 . pretty bad.
All the rest pretty effecient/effective ,
like Petrie 19 , not used to big minutes here though
Pero - Daly , pretty to watch .

Didn't he do that anyway Isaac.

Would clarke consider walking?

With or without cj would make no differnce! Just get over it every 1!

I've said it before, Clark won't walk as it would look bad to the new Boomers coach. If Clark doesn't get re-signed, at least he can fall back on excuses as to why he wasn't successful.
Get over it people, he's here for this season!

Does anyone else think that Cadee is just not up to NBL standard? Don't get me wrong, he will become a great player but lately hes just been disappointing. This is only his 2nd or 3rd season so I give him credit for what he's been able to achieve so far in his short career.

I'd bring him off the bench next game and see how he goes, but on current form he should not be starting, nor getting 20+ minutes a game. Based on what we've seen today and the last couple of games I reckon Daly is due for some more minutes and I'd even go as far as saying that he should be starting ahead of Cadee. He just seems to be able to read the game a little better and looks to be a better shooter.

My preference for starting 5 for next game is:

Schensher
Johnson
Petrie
Weigh
Gibson

or

Schensher
Johnson
Weigh
Daly
Gibson

I actually liked the idea of bringing schensch of the bench and starting petrie alongside Johnson. Similar to the way the bullets used bradtke in their championship season. Also, doesn't mean schensh has to play less minutes then either of them, just a better starting balance IMO.

Maybe bench cadee and start SC? I like gibbo at the 1 more than the 2, but obviously can handle both.

The Cadee criticism is laughable.

If Petrie was healthy, I would play him 40 mins every week. Typifies competitive spirit and along with Gibson shows pride in everything they do. We need Johnson to realise a couple of things:

One. You are 7 foot. Young. Can jump (kinda) DUNK the (expletive)ing ball!!!!!!

Two. Rebounds can be acquired at both ends of the court. Work a bit harder to get in for them.

And Three. Even if you think you can't...... Try to DUNK IT!!!!

Even a missed dunk inspires hope into team mates and the crowd of what might occur. Creates energy and excitement. That's how I remember basketball being played.

Cadee had a great game last week against Sydney. He's not as bad as some on this forum say.

With the constant condemnation of Clarke by fans, and the fact that the team have lost hope of making playoffs, the club should just let Clarke go. Is there a rule in the NBL that every team must have a coach. They can't do any worse without him so give the fans a break from having to see him there every game making decisions that sees him outcoached by the opposition and consistently losing games. Losing games is the only consistent pattern of performance we have had from Clark. Let Gibson be the player/coach for the rest of the season. They can't do any worse.

Harsh but I do not disagree.

"How far behind did Marty want to let his team fall behind before changing it up, on both ends."

Sadly, is Marty saving up all his timeouts to cash them in at season's end. When things are working out, change it up or call a time out.

Ouch, not even Townsville fans went to that level with Ben Allen while losing 10 games straight.

nice one bucketman! Couldn't agree more!

And this goes for just about everyone in the league. So many of the NBL players opt for layups, but if I had hops like half of these guys I would be trying to throw it down every chance i had.

Anon, I disagree that J is the Tomic of the NBL. Maybe the Philippoussis?

Forget the game I am more worried about Bizzy and those shorts, have you got them out yet??

Gold Ash.

Cadee hit a three last game. But yes, his long range shooting at home has been poor.

I don't know why Daly and Christopherson don't shoot right away, rather than start a succession of fake, drive, pass which eventuates in a non-ideal shot by someone like Crosswell. Crosswell was at least hitting his shots yesterday.

^^ I was amazed by that too.

He would've been at least promised a stronger role than being stuck behind Gibson and Deleon at Gold Coast. That left him as third option at point guard.

Thing is, unless you're a drawcard club (Perth or NZ, basically), you're forced to win bidding wars, develop and retain (hard; have to pay up eventually) or offer more on-court. Winning a bidding war can hamstring your efforts elsewhere on the roster.

I imagine Johnson, Weigh and Cadee all came to Adelaide enthusiastic about better opportunities. Two were on the bench at their previous clubs, another was facing serious competition at his position on a tough roster. Johnson for one, results aside just for the sake of recruiting arguments, became one of the better scorers in the league and is currently second in the league in rebounding, starting alongside a seven-footer. Could be far worse. Hard to get other strong centres out of contracts with their existing clubs.

Consider us lucky to have been out-bid for Ben Allen in the past. Thankfully Townsville got him!

Ash - it took me a while, but I managed. =]

You're right Isaac. Cadee is 2-24 on threes at home. Yep, 8%

Amazingly he's 11-27 on the road. 41%

Anon'843...

Isn't that a bit disrespectful to DJ calling him soft or 'c**t' or a disgrace?

The man is :

- 8th highest scorer.
- 1st Total Rebounder
- 1st Defensive Rebounder.
- 1st FT's made.

Honestly....thats pretty good upside there despite his known deficiencies.

Surely not deserving of being called a 'C'?

"Even at the very top, it is believed that getting rid of Marty could jeopardise the rest of the season."

Wait.

What?

Also - old school cheerleaders was by far the best part of Sunday.

@Anon'038...

I take it then that the FG% column is the only one you look at?

MC.....

So when Marty's contact is not renewed at the
end of the season. Has the bored suddenly lost
confidence in him??

Fact is the couldnt afford to pay him out
and hire another coach.

I can give you the press release at the
end of the season for Marty's sacking already.
" we would like to thank Marty for his commitment
to the club. We wish him well for the future "

Just like 95% of all other press releases regarding
not resigning a player or coach.

Here endeth the lesson

Johnson was MVP last season. Club did well to get him signed for 3 years given the other inclusions and what they must cost to overall cap. Yeah, is not a beast defensively, but could be another to benifit from different coaching formulas. Surely, given potential, age, what we have seen if him already etc, the good should outweigh the bad.

For the greatest part of his career (his years with sonics) Kemp was a very hard worker. Wasn't till the shortened season when he left for Cleveland that he got fat, lazy and hit the drugs. Vin Baker is a much better comparison to DJ

I love the way you arm chair experts take a set against a player and show so little respect for the players and the game. DJ certainly has a long way to go to fulfill his potential. Played very poorly yesterday. Player of the week last week in win v Kings and Crosswhite who by the way would be big chance of player of week this week if his team had won. Pretty sure he was player of the week earlier this season. I understand that you would like DJ to "look as though he's working harder" Second in the league in rebounding indicates some level of effort, I would have thought. Shot selection horrible.
Coach needs to sit his arse down when he drifts to perimeter. Should have been huge interior focus yesterday against undersized NZ.
Show some respect DJ is an outstanding talent who is still years away from his best.
Hopefully its in Adelaide with a coach who will hold him accountable and develop his defensive skills.

'042, watch your language or post elsewhere.

37.4 FG% Playing at C/PF. Inexcusable.

2.4 turnovers per.

22 3P% and yet he inisists on camping out there.

Worst interior defender in the NBL.

Rebounding the only positive and, lets be honest, 2 of those per game are probably coming from his own misses.

I don't think anyone's questioning his potential, but right now he is hurting the team in 8/10 games he plays and I can certainly understand how patience is running thin.

I wonder with DJ whether he comes across as being lazy as he is one of those guys who doesn't show much emotion? I don't remember seeing him get massively pumped after a big play like a dunk or hitting a big shot either.

He could be a better defender. He should finish more strongly around the basket. Anything more than that is over the top hate.

Re DJ, there is no doubt he has talent offensively and you don't want to curtail that to some extent. But his shot selection at times is absolutely woeful and you would really like to see an improvment in that area. If a coach came down too hard on that there is a risk that he wouldn't continue to be aggressive and try and display all of his offensive talents. I guess that's the skill in coaching a player like DJ...

Love Boti's point about the Sixers not running in the second half what was working in the first half, specifically the Daly, Pero combination. I'm astounded that no adjustments, no timeouts, nothing was done in that distastrious first 6 minutes of the second half.

I used to laugh at Brian Goorjian calling timeouts 30 seconds into the game but at least he was pro-active and put a stop to something as soon as didn't like what he saw...

Heritage round; nice, but a total flop on entertainment. next year, lets play away ay?

Overall, I didnt think it was so bad, although the margin was pretty bad which led me to leave early. Normally a hardened supporter but the beers during the game kill me, so left early via the loo.

As for the first half, was pretty good. The 3rd quarter, MAN!, to post your first points of the quarter via free throws at 04:03 left, says it all doesnt it. Even with a TV Timeout, we still struggled. Im glad we only have to watch this coach hand out his insulting crap another 3 times at home. And subbing on and off in the third was pitiful. If it doesnt look like its working, then change it.

If they hire clark is any form next year, i intend to boycott going. The only bonus for him this week was he didnt get booed or jeered.

Johnson is a bit like Khazzouh though not as advanced, very talented offensively but their lack of effort and fundamentals hurt their team, especially when their shot isnt dropping.

I should add, it's such a shame Khazzouh and Johnson havent been in good systems they could learn to be a cog in.

I hope the next 36ers coach is a good one in that regard, I always thought for eg, that had Trahair played under Goorjian he could have gotten close to his potential, it was no coincidence his best ball was under Molloy.

Khazzouh actually got blocks and tough rebounds though.

Mutley- Have also wondered that.

I think it's more d.j's casual, on court manorisms and motions that may come across as lazy, maybe? It's not like the guy is never, completely not trying. Has sufferes under clarke this season I.M.O.