Didn't look that bad however the NBL needs to step in with a penalty to show it does not condone this behaviour. Maybe 1 game suspension and a fine

Madgen is a sook. Wasn't close to being a foul and to overreact like that is a joke.

Maybe they could add it to the stats column.... Madgen - chairs thrown = 1.

I dont think he threw it at the ref, but it certainly hit him! Maybe a $500 fine?

I don't think he meant to throw the chair at the Ref.

Although it was reckless, if not the ref could have hit another player.

Probably warrants a reprimand from the league.

That chair was quite close to the action though.

Madgen best stage actor in the nbl, acts like a little bitch when things don't go his way, should get fined, shame great player

"Madgen best stage actor in the nbl, acts like a little bitch when things don't go his way, should get fined, shame great player"

ARE YOU RETARDED? madgen puts has much effort if not more, than ever other player in the nbl, and in no way does he act like a "little bitch", although i admit, throwing the chair was a terrible idea ( as it could have hit another player or anything), and he should have just thought a bit more before doing it, he wasn't acting for attention, he was just frustrated because he slipped as he was shooting.

as l said the guy can play but does not need to act like a spoilt child thats all, and no l am not retarded your mumma was for having you

Obviously wasn't directed at umpire intentionally. Act of frustration. Actually liked the way the umps handled it. No fuss, rational but reminded him it was over the top.

but when madgen through the chair i really thought he was going to get ejected, and i can admit, if it was the other way around, ( tigers player threw a chair that hit ref) and got no call, i would be rageing. so yes, it was a bit weird that there was no call

Actually this could be great news for the Sixers if Madgen is suspended for a game as the Sixers play them next Sunday.

lol this "sydney kings fan" must be a troll. not sure if srs

some of the court decals have been dangerous as the last couple of rounds. pretty much every player in the Hawks Breakers game was slipping around at one point or another and I'm surprised there hasn't been any serious injuries.

im not a troll? what makes you think im a troll? ahaha

im not a troll, although i think i might have gotten a bit carried away with the madgen talk ahaha :)

if someone accually punched a ref, how much trouble do you think they would be in?
oviously would be alot, but im just wondering

It's clearly the chair's fault for being in the way in the first place.

For the sake of player safety it should have moved out of the way itself.

One week suspension and $500 fine for the chair.

Kicked out the league, a big fine, and if it caused injury/bleeding or something then it would probably go to the courts as it would be assault.
There's a vid on youtube of an angry guy from another league in the world (not sure which one) dropping a ref.

^ good point, madgen just about head butted the chair, imagine if a player had fallen with all their weight on it, head, or kneck first.

* ^^

picking anything up and throwing it regardless of the direction or if it hit someone or not warrants a tech foul, something hitting a ref/player/spectator should warrant automatic ejection and be put on report. i remember im pretty sure it was grant kruger in the suns days playing against canberra? the crowd was throwing things on the court and kruger kicked something off the court and was teched fouled for that alone. madgen IS a sook and although hes a great player hes not the be all and end all of the league and its about time he woke up to the fact that he isnt. i hope the nbl fines the arse out of him.

I was surprised that no tech was called at the time as even though he crashed into it and was getting it off him (in no way did he go out of his way to pick it up and direct it at anyone as some jokers are suggesting!) he shouldn't have reacted out of frustration like that. I would have thought that any indirect contact with the ref would be an automatic tech, so even if the ref knew that it wasn't intentional, Madgen will no doubt cop a fine from the NBL in the coming days because the ref was soft...

If he gets suspended, it will be a joke, but I wouldn't be surprised...

My 12 year old and I sat and watched the game together. He should have been ejected immediately! What sort of example does that set for junior players watching. If it was the NBA he would have even ejected....no questions asked. I can also understand Maden's frustration. The amount of "no calls" was rediculious. No wonder the players get frustrated. They don't know what is a foul and what isn't.

Steve, what sort of example does it set for your kid when you write "rediculious"?

Just uploaded the video



FYI i believe he was frustrated at the fact that there was a chair in his way, not at the ref or Ballinger.

natwhereyouat, you might need to upload it again as it doesn't seem to stream correctly, or is it just my internet?

link doesnt work for me either. freezes and then my adobe crashes

Not condoning the action at all, but Madgen has clearly pushed (not thrown- wwe style!) the chair in disgust at it being in the way, the ref happened to be there! I am
a Breakers fan, not a Kings fan, but some of the suggested punishments are a bit exaggerates!

what i think is stupid though, is that they called a foul earlier on tom garlepp walking into someone ( barely) but not Ben madgen throwing a chair....
kinda stupid

Try this
http://youtu.be/pHmR5qouv2M

i like Ben madgen, and he is a great player, so hopefully this incident wont escalate any more, and the punishment is fair.
( by escalate, i mean he wont get in too much trouble)

although, it wasnt a well thought out thing to do.

Storm in a tea cup... I don't see much in it. Suspended fine at best. He didn't peg the chair at the ump and I think he's more pissed off that a chair was that close to the basket without one of those triangle courtside barrier thingies to offer protection.

Out of interest sake, given Madgen's recent shoulder injuries, and by looking at the footage, his shoulder/upper arm seems to take the majority of the impact with the chair, what would of happened if the collision had re-injured him??

was he actually fouled? i cant honestly tell if there was any contact.

but i think alot of people on this forum are overreacting.

it may look like he's a prima donna acting up but as the Kings best player he gets a lot of treatment from opposition defense and is constantly at the foul line, a lot of the frustration is most probably warranted although furniture flying around is prob going a little overboard and may warrant a fine

it may look like he's a prima donna acting up but as the Kings best player he gets a lot of treatment from opposition defense and is constantly at the foul line, a lot of the frustration is most probably warranted although furniture flying around is prob going a little overboard and may warrant a fine

More a shove of the chair than a throw. Lucky to get off free for it though.

Why was the chair there in the first place?

Pretty stupid place to have a chair

Madgen, Dann and Garlepp are the most antagonising players in the league. i hate watching Kings games now and they were once my fav team

^ please explain why?
kings are the best team :)

obvious troll is obvious ^

Ingles13
im not a troll, i just chose to respond as stupid to that guys post as i could ahahah

Ingles13
what team do you support?

Seems it was a Channel Ten Cameraman's chair .

Aha, Joe the Cameraman strikes again !!

He probably gave Madgen a quick sledge so Ben was just reacting to that ...

Give it a couple of days and Joe will confess in the press and all will be forgotten.

Cant defend, cant pass...

Exactly - I saw him ... Joe didn't even try and get a hand in Madgen's face ... just stood there and watched as the chair took one for the team ....

If the video isn't suitable to watch, just go into your NBL TV accounts and watch it.

What is the chair doing there in the first place? There is a reason there is suppose to be a 2 metre barrier around the court. And to have a chair sitting next to the basket support just aint practical.

No fine, no suspension. Notice sent to all venues about ensuring the court area is clear of all hazards with common sense applied to advertising.

^ there is a big difference between kicking a innocent cameraman in the balls, and throwing a chair you just hit, and accidently hitting someone walking past.

It's noticeable that the most retarded things posted are usually by "Anonymous". Things that people would be too embarrassed to put their username to. Things like comparing kicking a person to shoving a chair out of the way.

^thankyou.

Is the chair contracted to Melbourne or do you think the Sixers may have a shot? Seems to play better D than others on the team

The chair threw itself.

Should have been a Tech but that is all.

Regardless of if it was thrown at anyone intentionally (and I don't believe it was). Surely we can't condone someone throwing a chair because they were pissed off.

Imagine what would happen at a local stadium if someone did that? They would be Tech'd up for sure, probably more.

Sending the wrong message by not calling the Tech on the spot.

FYI, next time I play and don't get a call I will be sure to pick up a chair next to me and throw it.

Clint Eastwood threw the chair, with Obama in it.

Definitely should have been ejected.
Definitely should be a suspension.
Definitely should be fined.

If you saw a player get frustrated and throw a chair whether it is towards a referee or not they should be thrown out.
I think he was lucky the ref was so close and that a player was kind of in his way.
If that chair wasn't stopped and went the full distance everyone would agree it's an ejection.
Stop acting like a twit and continue to play hard which is what you are good.
I thought he was unlucky on the previous play to get called for a charge but there was absolutley no foul on Ballinger to warrant his dummy spit.

Just frustrated that he hit the chair I think. Probably deserved a suspended fine and maybe a public statement/apology as it sets a pretty average example for youngsters to see.

Definately not as bad as Warnie in the BBL last night!

Nothing in it!!!
No intent - no harm - no action required!!!
Move on!

This definitely should have been a tech foul on the day and normally I would say left at that. However, as previously mentioned, when you look at the other suspensions, ejections and techs from this season it surely has to be right up there. If it goes by precedence, which it really should (not sure if it does), then this would have to warrant at the very least a fine. Throwing a chair that connects with a referee, regardless of intent, surely shouldn't be treated so lightly. Yes, you could argue that the chair shouldn't have been there and you would probably be right, but had the chair not been there he would have run into the signage, so would we have then said that there shouldn't be the corporate boxes that are on the floor? Although, I bet it would have been a bit harder for him to have thrown that a referee. Not a good example to kids (or even adult basketballers for that matter) who are watching. Whilst I don't think there was any malice in it and it was an act of frustration it should still be punished. Sorry for the essay!

So if the chair wasn't there and he fell with the ball, does that give him right to throw that at the ref? Give him a week to have a look at himself, attitude like this that we do not need. Respect the refs

Come on Ox, you're smarter than that, mate... He fell on the chair, the chair got on top of him and he reacted badly and pushed it out of the way... There was clearly no intent to direct it at the ref or anyone else... It's not like a ref to NOT blow a whistle in that situation (the poster who suggested that they're scared to make big calls to upset people is rubbish, how shit have the been all season?!?) so surely the fact that the ref didn't feel the need to blow the whistle when it was directed at him should be taken into account? Either way, I still think that he should have got the tech on the day and that would normally be it... Maybe a fine after the review, but if he's suspended, especially after someone who took a swing at another player WASN'T, it will be ridonkulous...

Making up hypothetical stuff is just an overreaction...

Bollocks... Have you ever seen a ref get any sort of threat against him and be afraid to blow the whistle, or have any of the other two step in?

Anon #1: So my theory that since a ref didn't blow their whistle they didn't think it was whistle worthy (although I disagree) is unbelievable, but someone making things up what they were feeling that they were all scared little bunny rabbits that were too SCARED to blow a foul IS believable?! Keep smoking whatever you're smoking...

Anon #2: Dude, I've seen the tape, all the angles... If Madgen intended to throw it directly at the ref, I'm pretty sure it would have hit him pretty square. He crashed into the chair, it slid onto him, he pushed it away over aggressively, he was looking straight ahead, at no point once he threw the chair, did he ever direct his attention to the ref. You'd think that if he had a beef with the ref, he'd at least look at him?

Any big conspiracy is otherwise just ridiculous...

Finally an Anon that's making sense...

Idiot Anon: He had someone behind him, as you said, he was crashed up against the chair and the corporate box on his right so that leaves to his left which is the court, or where he chucked it, in front of him, where the support and to an angle, the ref were... Debate this and capitalise whatever you like, you're not going to make any more sense than what you're not making now...