Yea i agree Isaac re Madgen, thats why its soo frustrating to me that we didnt make him a good 3 year offer as soon as he returned from college, even before that, he was willing to take an 11th man spot for the kings, so it wouldnt have taken huge money, he came from the same college/level as Wortho and Barlow and put up amazing numbers so it would have been a fairly safe bet that he would do well in the NBL even if he didnt get to Boomers level.
I remember the year he was a 36ers development player i heard on interviews guys like Smyth, Farley raving about how good he was, Farley predicted he would be the next big thing in SA basketball from memory when asked who was the best young player he had seen training with the 36ers, which is why i took an interest in his college career which he put up amazing numbers, sure it was a Div2 school put his numbers were better than most aussies put up in any college d1 or d2. When he came back and played a few games for the Mavs i heard smyth maybe on kg and the general or something like that in the media talking about going and watching him and how good he thought he would have been, how do the 36ers just ignore this stuff and let yet another star SA player go elsewhere is beyond me, sure Smyth missed Ingles and Newley, but they only played a couple of years of NBL each then went to Europe to me missing Madgen is worse as he will likely play 10 years of NBL, and could have easily been in 36ers uniform if the coaches/club made a real effort to get him initially and i think it would have been a very good educated guess that he would turn out to be atleast a solid NBL player, even if you didnt predict this seasons form. His numbers at ABL level match up to guys like Hill, Bruce, Ng, so you could easily suggest he would be of similar level to them based on that aswell, Hill and Bruce are starters and Ng was a decent rotation player. Madgen also has good size for a sg, so i cant see what made the 36ers pass him up, even if we had offered him the 11th spot before the kings i reckon we would have had a fair shot of getting him and then he would have proven to be better than Ng, Hill, Herbert before to long and the rest would take care of itself.
Marty has done a good job bringing young talent to Adelaide in Creek, Johnson, Weigh, Cadee but possibly missed the best out of the lot in Madgen (Creek may surpass him but i dont think the others will, some would argue Johnson but imo Madgen is better and smarter player) and he is a SA boy who probably would have been cheaper to sign than the others in the first place.
I honestly beleive we could have had a back court rotation of Gibson or star import, Bruce, Madgen, Carter or Cadee had the coaches done a better job at looking after and recruiting/retaining some of these guys. How GOOD would that have been, we wouldnt be in the mess we are in now with those guys in our team even with the same coaches.
Our front court is fine for me, not perfect but we havnt had as many slip through the cracks or be let go, maybe we could have kept/got Hill, Holmes, Forman but the guys we have instead are just as good or better so not so worried, where Madgen and Bruce or Carter along with Gibson would be sooo much better than Gibson with Cadee and Crosswell and if we had a Gibson/Madgen starting guard rotation it wouldnt matter who was coaching, our team would be far better than what it is now, id almost guarantee we would be top 4 instead of the kings.
Its all in the past, but another poor selection/decision by the coaches, which is just made worse by there top young talent not being anything close, this was a large reason why Smyth got let go, so why does Marty not get the same and he has won far less games than Smyth did.