I wouldnt even put a hypothetical bet on the sixers. WE SUCK

No excuses for this one. And that's a revised no excuses after thinking the same for the home loss to the Crocs the other round.

So , I'd just be curious to see if channel 2 news is right
and we make the change , if we cain't win this.
Still , we gotta lose this one first.

I can't bring myself to back the Sixers in this one despite how much I think they should win.

Does anyone actually care any more?

Yes.

A potential to smash the Crocs. No Holmes means that DJ and Luke should get plenty of rebounds.

Rotations are the key. It's pointless giving Pero and Tommy D an air ticket if they spent more time in the Virgin lounge on the way up than on court.

Plus it's Luke's birthday today, he meeds a descent present !

Amazingly, with two games against Townsville and Sydney in the next two weeks they could actually be in the four in a fortnight!!

I dont think they will be, but with much-needed extra guard on board it isnt time to give up just yet.

Haven't you all learnt your lesson yet and think this game would be an automatic penciled in win for you. You had the Crocs losing both games to you so far and you lost both. Big Luke never plays consistantly so, who says he will this time. We may have Jacob out, but you also have no Creek. Crocs to win this one in another close one.

Gibbo just told me he's going to try and take charge on the offensive side tonight. 25 he reckons. Let's just see.

According to this thread, the 6ers will romp it in.

http://hoops.com.au/forum/30184-sixers-catching-the-kings-on-the-ladder/

I honestly don't think the 6ers will lose thrice to the Crox.

1) They have lost Holmes, he is the guy who breaks your heart by with his hustle. Eg. beating DJ for the O' board off the missed (Cedar?) free throw.

2) Marty will have made the necessary adjustments from the 2 'lessons learned' to date.

3) 6'ers have had game time to sharpen their edge, Crox still coming off AS break.

4) The guys are HUNGRY and want to win one for the fans and their head coach.

Surprises me that ADL is $2.20 against a TSV sans Holmes.

Do the bookies not know that there are players called Hinder and Allen in that position?

Will the Sixers win? Heart says yes, the head say geez I hope so.

Clarke confirmed Peach is struggling fitness wise so Sixers are really down to 6.5 players. Rubber Duck (or "Straight Arrow"...whichever Kristofferson nickname you prefer)is essential, if just to provide Gibbo a breather...any news on clearances, haven't seen or heard anything from the club yet?

@Anon'110..

I believe they are hungry.

They showed a half of that Vs NZB.

Now its on the team to string a whole game of that want.

Can you blame the team for porcupining themselves against the world when even the most fervent supporters are :

1) Hoping the 6ers will lose so it will be a catalyst for Marty's departure?

2) Creating and discussing threads where they propose who to axe, who to retain and who to bring in in 2013/14 when it is one week passed the All-Star Game?

3) Fans are booing the team. At HOME. On NATIONAL TV?

I am confident of a win. Still think we are a Top 3 side so tonights game is a must win and a great opportunity to get confidence and get on a winning streak with winnable games coming up. Time is Now !

normally id take an interest, but wont tonight.
you're only as good as your last game is a quote and after what i saw, a great half and a tooled half. nup. not interested

Can't remember when crocs last lost on New Years at home ? Crocs wil dance all over Adelaide tonight ....

Always a first time for everything

Without Holmes I will pencil the sixers in to win. Bitter sweet want the team to win, want them to lose to force the sacking of Clark, never willed this team to lose before.

No import as stated on 10 news,eeek Petrie injured will need to win to stay in touch with Sydney,Win tonight and Friday will give us some much needed confidence and knocking on the door come finals .

I think this is the turning point tonight.

Looking very good strong work Luke and dj .Marty here we come 2013. Play four quarters buoys and game is ours.a believer. Start of run to finals I am with Marcus Marty deserves opportunity

Focal point maybe?

Get ready to party pero stepping up big. Come on Steve. Bring home the chocies.Sixers are looking strong.All the weigh .efforts boys

Time we got off Marty back.i love the Sixers.

Lovin rusty go u good thing !

Please don't blame Marty.

2 point miss when we are 3 points down with 10 seconds to go. Yep I will drink to that

Come on Sixers. Do it for your supporteters. Gibbo step now your time

Yeeeeees! Go crocs go ......

So now Townsville, Cairns and Melbourne just one game behind us. We will be bottom again soon. Way to go Clarke, FFS get rid of that prick!

I wonder who Marty and Radford will blame now. Maybe the Today Tonight story caused them to lose focus? I am sure the effort was there and they trained really hard during the week.

Bring back Symth ala Adelaide United did with Coolen. Look how well the Reds are doing now

Oh no! We lost again.

Thanks to Marty and Radford. Happy New Year Gentleman

I am gutted.if only we had our import. That hurt.still on board though. Much improved. Was dj hurt needed his fire power. Don't give up. New year new fortune. Happy hew year to all

Sick Morty!!

Guys.....Give Crox their credit, they hit shots when they counted, even Hinder.

Marty cannot be blamed for Hinder catching fire since 2005.

https://www.change.org/petitions/to-the-management-of-the-adelaide-36ers-remove-marty-clarke-and-mark-radford-as-coaches-from-the-adelaide-36ers

Sign my petition ;)

Note to Nathan Crosswell, please do not attempt another spin move this Century.

Marcus correct how is it coach fault some guy gets hot once a year.illness injury bad luck. Team is hurting I am sick of our piss ant culture in this town stick with the crew.it will turn.

Thanks Marty I new you would coach them to a loss. Thank u sportsbet

Now that I have recouped some of my $$ for my season tickets


Now back to the obvious sack the useless f@&k and his garden knome assistant

Marcus Camby your seriously deluded...does Clarke own you??

Why was Weigh subbed out (I know..who ever complains about that) when he was ACTUALLY playing hard. He was asking for the ball, taking shots and getting them. 7 points in a row, subbed out!!!!
The only reason can be he was going against Clarke's game plan and was SCORING instead of sitting still in the corner, much like he told CJ to do.

Pero should never have had game time UNLESS DJ was injured, Daly should not have either.
Gibson played less minutes than Schenscher..HUH Cadee only 23 minutes when Daly plays 17. Why are development players playing in close games. Ridiculous.

There are NO excuses for Clarke this game Marcus, he made all the wrong decisions at crucial times of the game and absolutely ruined it for us. His last play for a three point shot was an absolute waste of time, as usual.

+1 skud

Right on the money , now lets wait for marty Camby excuses oops I mean Marcus clarke Hang on Marcus Camby.

Does Marcus only get let out from his institution at night?
There are only 2 common denominators symbolising failure at the Sixers and they are the coach and his assistant. Rosters have changed significantly but those guys have remained.
Can somebody name one player who has been "coached" by these peanuts and has actually improved?
No more crap excuses, these blokes have to go now, no maybes, right now. Or there will be no more Sixers team. It is that simple I am afraid.

Painting my sack Marty banner for next game now

The awkward moment when Tom Daly has the only block on the 6er's team

My only conclusion is they simply cant afford to do it. You have to have someone ready to fill in as wel which could also be an issue.

Marcus, you seem to forget rusty was hitting shots every time we made the playoffs for the last god knows 20 years.... We even give you 2 ex crocs, and you still can't see you got a coaching problem !

hit the nail on the head, Skud.

Absolutely correct in every sense of the word.

In a few weeks we will be sitting bottom soon.we are stacked team with worse current losses!next two games we will lose,seems like players are just out there only interested in their pay packets.SOS need sack Marty and give phil or al green a short term coaching contract might see new light into 2013.

Weigh more aggressive on offense and was played less minutes than usual .
Most likely SOS will make the change , now.

.....kinda looked like weigh was gunna win it for us...

It takes a while to convince some players however there are a lot of players out there that will score well in a 20 minute game time but score the same on a 35 minute game

Sacking needs to come early this week if there is any budget for it. That's a horrible result.

If we can't beat the Crocs at home or away, who do we plan to beat? Their frontcourt was Nevill and Hinder, and that's it.

Agreed that Marty should go based on the last two and a half seasons, but credit to the Crocs guys. We (crocs) got outrebounded 27 to 37, but shot the lights out from the 3 last night 59%. Rusty 4 of 5, Blanchfield 4 of 6, pc 3 of 5, Ervin 1 of 2 and allen 1 of 1. That is what got the Crocs over the line, every time 36ers hit a shot in the last quarter, we answered with a score.

Most games if you get outrebounded by 10 and give up 13 extra shots, you get your ass handed to you, so a very good shooting display covered up some big problems for the Crocs also.

Boo Hoo" "Clarke deserves an opportunity" - The singular funniest thing I have read on Hoops for years!! Exactly how much opportunity does he need to win? Should we get him a more stacked roster? Maybe we could sign Kobe for him?

Marcus Camby, your posts on this thread are either the rantings of a very unstable or drunk person, or as I said before, you are the greatest troll on Hoops ever, so.....either, good luck with the medication/treatment, or congratulations!!

@Skud..

Daly and Pero have seen FA court time this year.

Yesterday they saw a significant increase in court time.

Your #1 impulse is to blame Marty??

The team was playing with 6 and a half (injured Petrie) players on Saturday.

Then have to play again 48 hours later AWAY.

OF Course Marty has no choice but to give the players a rest.

Like it or not the players get tired, this has been proven again and again with double header weekends.

I can guarantee you if Marty had kept a gassed Gibbo or Weigh on the court you guys would tear stips off him for keeping an 'ineffective' player on for too long.

Can't have it both ways mate.

I know Weigh was heating up @ the 5 mins mark like you observed but Marty would have felt he needed Weigh 'fresher' in the final 2.5 mins for the last push.

If you look at the stats :

- Pero was on for 2 mins (The Horror), in that 2 mins he scored 2 points and got 2 rebounds. I think that is more than serviceable for a man who doesn't need to shower after the game on most nights.

- Weigh's sub. When he was subbed @ 5:29, the Crox lead was 4. When he came back @ 2:33, the Crox lead dropped to 3. So that was a well calculated gamble if you ask me, your best scorer got a breather AND you caught up. Weigh also did not cool off, he drained another 3 within another minute of coming back in as well as another o'board and deuce later. What else can you expect?

The Petrie 2 FGA was a head scratcher, I don't think you can blame Marty for that, or do you believe Marty asked for a 2 when down 3? The only thing I can think of is Petrie thought Gibo burned so much of the clock that there was no time left.

Guys we cannot keep bringing up CJ as an issue to use against Clarke again and again.

Its not like an unlimited pass, you use infinitely to gain entry.

Overall the jury is out whether that decision was correct, even I believe CJ was a bit stiffed.

Voice the CJ issue ONCE and let it be.

Its unfair to have weekly 'We would have won if we had CJ' jabs.

The club made a decision as a collective (with Marty's guidance), lets accept the positive and negative implications of that decision as a membership group and move on.

^ good post MC

I thought the pass to Petrie was a smart play by Gibson, he couldnt get an open three but found a wide-open Petrie who should have made the shot. That brings it back to one with 10-odd seconds to play and you foul and see how good their free-throw shooting is.

Marcus go back to school your spelling is pissing me off

However way you look at it, the facts are that as the coach of the Adelaide 36ers, Marty Clarke has failed. The team's record since he took over should well and truly speak for itself. Hopefully we can bring in the new year with a new (or 'old') coach who can get this team going.

If the 36ers let this go on much longer it shows, to me at least, that there is more wrong than just the coaching.....

Happy new year everyone.

@Anon'274..

CJ had a specific window where if he needed to be cut, it had to be there and then.

Finding an import fitting the team's culture and needs, and within the CJ budget I would imagine is not easy.

Also visas and clearances are not quick to get at the best of times, expecting and expedited process during the festive period is unrealistic. There must be some of you out there in public service or small organisations that close during this time.

One can hardly blame Marty for not pulling a replacement out of his Hat in 24 hours.

The 6.5 player issue is exacerbated by Creek going down, and Petrie's niggles.

Without those 2 events, most would agree Adelaide have an 8 man squad that rivals that of Perth's and NZ's.

At worst it was a calculated risk that didn't pay off. Marty isn't the first to take a risk, we do that too.

Why don't we use the CJ sacking again and again?

Because we are reasonable people.

Example, how would you like it if :

You woke up 30 mins late and had to come home from work 30 mins late and be blamed subsequently for :

- Dinner being 30 mins late.
- Bathing the children 30 mins late.
- Settling the children 30 mins late.
- Going to bed 30 mins late?

There is no shame in losing close games in a tough league like this, each of the losses can be justified individually and the 36ers talent is about on par with the competition meaning an expectation of top of the ladder is unrealistic.

But when you lose six close games in a row there is a major issue, especially when it is a trend from previous seasons.

This is a playoff team if they simply close games out, yet under Clarke that hasnt happened, it's time to make a move before this season is unsalvageable.

Marcus,

Blaming someone for all those outcomes would be perfectly reasonable.

At the end of the day, he/she should have got up out of bed at the right time.

They woke up 30mins late..so it's their fault.

You have to take responsibility for your actions.

Have to remember that coaching is a job. If I made a bad decision at work to the detriment of the company, I would be fired. If I was getting ineffective results (like poor client numbers etc), I would be fired.
Just have to remember that Marty is employed and has a job to fulfill just like all of us

Don't know how you can continue to make excuses for him.

In regards to the visa issues and time delays around the new import..Every coach should know that these delays are inevitable..Marty would have been aware of the delays, yet he carried through with axing CJ.

The result of this??

the 36ers haven't had a legitimate SG in weeks, and the results show

Marcus, to extend your analogy a bit further I would say my biggest problem with Marty is that he is 30 minutes late on everything, and stubbornly refuses to acknowledge what the correct time is. Whatever he is trying isn't working, but he still sticks with it akin to the Somme Mindset, and rather than change his gameplan (which is a proven failure) he is constantly changing players. How many have been through here in the last three years? Have the results changed? What has been the one constant?

Thankfully did not see the game, just box score. I was never a huge fan of CJ but surely it's obvious from the results that he was not the problem. Clearly a scapegoat and a knee jerk reaction from coaching staff. Would have we won more games with him? No one knows. But we certainly can say we havnt won a game without him!!!

And if as MC says we go into a game with 6.5 players, how is this player/team managment? Are injuries expected? Yes. Are players getting tired (poor boys) expected? Yes. Does the coaching staff have the foresight that all these things will happen at some stage throughout the season, clearly bloody not! Inexcusable to cut an import without an immediate replacment, costing us games and maybe the playoffs. This is not how you run a business and keep stakeholders happy. Our product reeks. Fall on your sword Marty, before they make you walk the plank.

The reason we keep having a go at Clarke is because his gone through about 25 different players in 3 seasons.

Every year totally different lineup, yet exactly the same results, we cant just blame the players year in year out when they are totally different players! Everyone with any NBL knowledge knows our list this year is one of the best in the league. How can these players all of the sudden not perform to their usual standards that they have at other clubs?

I'm well aware the Coach is always an easy target and of course he isn't the one putting the ball in the basket but this is one of the very few cases where the blame on the coach has to be heaped on Marty. We as fans and members have let this ride way too long, any financially stable club or one with board members that actually knew how to run a club would have made the cut a long time ago! Any smart businessman would no this cancer is only going to spread deeper the longer its left.

Yes we all know it seems like the boards hands are tied as they do not have the funds to pay out Marty and bring in another coach but that is also a cop out. What could an NBL coach be on? $200,000 a year max, so there's half a season left... you telling me these SOS saviours could dip into their wealthy bank accounts to save our club but are unwilling to come up with a measly $100,000 to save the club they love so much from further damage? and that estimate is on the conservative side as well! Im sure there wouldnt be a coach on more money then the best players in the league!

"I was never a huge fan of CJ but surely it's obvious from the results that he was not the problem."

This is a common misconception promoted by Boti. No one said CJ was the problem, but they needed someone better in that spot.

Few who impartially watched him clang open three-pointers off the backboard, miss box outs and lose defensive assignments could disagree with that.

Well if they needed someone better they should have sourced someone better to start with. Instead they thought their team would be strong enough anyway and wanted to get a budget import that would play a handful of minutes. turns out we need a bit more then that (or so Marty thinks now).

Come on why are some people here so blind to the straight up facts.

a) you dont cut the 9th guy in your rotation to shake things up

b) the manner in which is was handled was very unprofessional and a blight on the club to treat such a player like that

c) it also wreaks of amateur hour that we have now gone 4 games without a replacement? Surely any competent management would sort out a replacement first or hold onto him until one is found? instead weve gone 4 games with a man down. So that has really been a great decision to let him go hasnt it!

I'm the first to agree that CJ was hardly lighting the world on fire but the whole way it was played out has really cut deep with the knowledgeable fan. That is why many people will continue to bring it up! its not how we like to see our club run.

"Paul, can you please explain to me what changed?"

I think they expected Massingale to be a factor from the perimeter and he wasnt, Clarke couldnt have predicted an experienced veteran playing like a scared rookie and clanging wide open shots or making unforced turnovers. I also suspect Cadee and Crosswell werent performing as well as expected and they decided they needed someone better.

I have no issue with a reassessment like that. If youre import isnt providing what you want get rid of him because it's much harder to replace locals.

There's plenty of things Clarke has done wrong but cutting Massingale wasnt one of them in my opinion.

@ManuteBol...

To say "Well if they needed someone better they should have sourced someone better to start with." is rather unfair don't you think.

I mean the team needed to give the squad a try first then make a determination.

How were they to know that :

1) Cadee would shy away from the ball as a POINT GUARD.

2) That Gibbo would have to shoulder the burden/

3) CJ was not effective in his role.

You guys harp on about Marty not making adjustments, well here he is making an adjustment to the team, and....he is bagged out for it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't in South Australia apparently.

Sure, but that's a different discussion.

Marcus....
How were they to know that :

1) Cadee would shy away from the ball as a POINT GUARD.

2) That Gibbo would have to shoulder the burden/

3) CJ was not effective in his role.


THAT IS THE COACHES JOB!!!

The Coaches #1 job is to recruit the best possible players for what the team needs and to then use them to the best of their ability. So far Clarke has shown us he is remarkably good at ruining players and having them under perform. This is HIS JOB. He is HORRIBLY BAD at this job and should be SACKED for it. More so Clarke said with the sacking he wanted a player who could create his own shot, something CJ is well known for being able to do..but he was told to stand in the corner and stretch the defence. So Clarke hired a guy capable of doing what he wanted, then told him to do something different then sacked him for not doing what he told him not to do.......and blamed the bad season on him.

Then you spout this rubbish
"You woke up 30 mins late and had to come home from work 30 mins late and be blamed subsequently for :

- Dinner being 30 mins late.
- Bathing the children 30 mins late.
- Settling the children 30 mins late.
- Going to bed 30 mins late?"

Once again yes..it is your fault, you woke up 30minutes late, your job has the responsibility that you are there on time. No if buts or maybe, if you are continuously late, you would be sacked.

Then this!

"Then have to play again 48 hours later AWAY."

It was actually 72 hours, which is more than enough for a player to get over a 40minute game. NBA teams have a much more hectic schedule. AWAY means nothing in this country, 3-4hr flights will not affect players. Rugby clubs have flown into a country to play the following day, fly back and play the following day again. Daly did not need to see that much court time and Pero should never have been on the court with DJ sitting down for 7 minutes in the last quarter.

Its lucky you don't run a business, you would go bankrupt telling your creditors..ow come on give me a go, I mean I'm trying, its not my fault the product is amazing but I'm so rubbish at my job I cant sell it.

+36 to Skud..

To the anon that replied to me...

Not sure if you've followed much professional sporting leagues around the world but in almost all cases owners don't buy up clubs expecting to turn a profit! they do it for the passion of the club, therefore they should be prepared to accept financial loses! Many other clubs in different sports sack coaches for change and more often then not change brings a positive result, the fact that we still have not after such a deplorable run the past 2.5 years is quite frankly embarrassing on our club! Come on this state is a proud basketball state with a rich history that is being destroyed in recent times.

Yeah so a few of you "heard" a replacement was sourced for CJ before he got the sack. Another rumour that will never be proven fact.

I also dont think its unfair to try and source someone better if they wanted someone better. We all know the move on CJ was purely financial. Your not gonna find a gun Import to play for $40,000 lets face it! He was a very low risk signing as we all knew his history in Australia. Yet we lost a couple of games and Clarke wanted to make it look like something was being done about it, well Karma can be a real bitch!

Anyway im not gonna keep going on about the CJ axing to those unwilling to listen.

The key point is your banging on how Cadee wont handle the ball, and Gibbo is having to do everything etc... surely this is the COACHES responsibility to then set the standards. mate even going back to under 12's days if the coach didn't like something you were doing u got told it! The fact Cadee has been able to cruise through this season getting large minutes for virtually no production IS DOWN TO THE COACH! If Gibbo is trying to be the hero coz no one else will create their own shot will then give the others you think should be stepping up a bake! This is all basic stuff!

Someone also mentioned CJ would have been a better player if not coached under Clarke, I think we can say pretty much every player on our roster could be better under another coach as well!

at the end of the day the do gooders of the world always pull out the "its not the coaches fault, his not out there playing" line yet every single coach that signs a contract knows they will be judged on their teams performance!

If the results are not up to scratch, then the coach is fired. That's professional sports, where money is involved.

The few here actually trying to mount a case for Clarke makes me really sad that some of our so called "educated" fans actually believe he should stay!

@Skud...

So coaches should know how their players are going to fair before they even start the season or play a game?

Then we need to sack Bevo for Andre Brown, sack Gordie for Glover and Catron, sack Anstey for Braswell.

Marty tried CJ, the results weren't as expected, he was moved, like you said Marty doing his job as Head Coach (making the tough decisions).

Marty has never blamed CJ for the season's progress...6'ers were in positive territory when CJ was let go.

You totally missed the pont of my 30 mins late scenario.

It wasn't to be fired for being late, it was to show how un-reasonable it is to blame him for every subsequent event impacted by the initial 'issue'.

I am sorry I forgot they played on Friday.

48 or 72 hours....playing 6.5 players is tough even in one game.

Daly was actually quite aggressive during the time he was there.

Pero only played 2 mins mate...where he scored and got 2 boards.

@ManuteBol...

Having passion for the game != burning 100k @ a whim.

SOS are not populated with Russian Oil Billionaires.

Times are tough.

Yes you don't expect to get a healthy return, but doesn't mean you wanna throw away money.

Listen I don't profess to know the in's and outs of coaches contracts but surely some deal could be brokered to get Phil Smyth or even Brett Maher to be caretaker coach for the reminder of the season on pittance because they unlike Clarke actually bleed for this club and i'm sure would want to help out

A similar arrangement happened at Adelaide United last season with Kossie coming back and look how that has turned out. Yes two different sports but its amazing what some passion can do at the top!

And someone will prob reply back with "what coaching credentials has Brett Maher got?"

IF such a situation did arise and we didnt win another game for the year id actually still be happy that the club actually tried to change things up!

This season is shot, even the most optimistic fan should realize this now. Weve dropped 3 games to the bottom team, there's no way we are making finals. Lets try something for gods sake! Lets not just waste the rest of the year.

Just meh... The NBL sucks these days anyway. Thank fark I stopped getting tickets a few years ago.

B Grade league... 40 minute games. Adios..

"So coaches should know how their players are going to fair before they even start the season or play a game?"

Yes when all of the players came from other clubs they should..that's what scouting is for. Imports from overseas are different since most coaches don't actually see them play in person. No such excuse for CJ

"Pero only played 2 mins mate...where he scored and got 2 boards."

He also turned it over twice and was scored on easily but that's ok I think everyone here realises you only look at stat's and not the actual games

Seems SOS not interested in Cole wanting to put up $750,000 and working with them , otherwise would have heard . They must be happy .

Boti, hurry back from Hawaii, otherwise Jai might be the one covering the news of Marty's sacking.

@anon I was chatting with, no I think theyre two different things. The case Clarke is a poor coach is about whether ownership should sack him or not.

But until that happens Clarke's job is to put the best team on the floor as he sees fit. Massingale couldnt hit open shots so the coach decided he needed a better import. Sounds like a good decision to me.

main stream media expecting Clarke's not safe out there

The reduced roster is not an excuse.

Despite his potential and how much everyone but the coaching staff thinks of him, Creek was used as a bits and pieces player who was not a key part of the roster. Just look at how often he got PT in the second half of games.

The biggest issue with letting CJ go was that we didn't have a ready-to-go replacement ready. That's now 4 games we've had to play with a reduced roster, magnified when Creek went down. That's all on Marty's head. Massingale didn't set the world on fire...... but he sure would have been handy over the last 4 games.

Marcus Camby- you have got it completely wrong on the CJ release. There wasn't a specific window that he had to be cut by, it's just that the Sixers saved some money by doing it when they did. If Clarke didn't have a ready-to-go replacement it was always going to be a dangerous move. It's now bitten him in the bum. We might have had more understanding over the release if CJ wasn't the 8th import to be used under Clarke's tenure. I've always been a fan of getting a veteran US point guard as your No 1 import but once the 36ers landed Cadee and Gibson I at least understood the move. My biggest issue with the release was that it smack of placing blame on CJ, the club had no money to get anyone much better and with Clarke's import success rate was unlikely to unearth a gem.


Manute Bol's Father- I agree, it's clear to me Clarke wants the ball in Gibson's hands and Cadee has lost confidence, mainly due to the role he's been asked to play. Being as badly mismanaged as CJ was.

@Skud...

You don't see the difference between CJ being scouted whilst playing in the SEABL and CJ playing in the NBL?

Actually Pero turned it over once.

Pero was not expected to beast it up in 2 mins of court time, he just had to hold fort for 2 mins whilst the others were rested.

I'm not saying Pero is great but there seemed a need to rest the bigs especially when Petrie is half his self.

I got you Anonymous #395388, but you just said you "heard" and you've remained anonymous and haven't named a source, so we're not exactly dealing in facts.

You can cut them whenever you like, as long as you pay them

Yes, but how much you have to pay them can depend on when you cut them.

True. Seems likely Clarke was told if he wanted to make a move he needed to do it then to save some $$$ and ensure they had some money left to find import 9

Good call Big Ads!! I suspect Boti would be monitoring all this between swells and beachside cocktails. Half his luck.

Just getting off the subject a little. I would like to know why the Adelaide fans think they have the right to boo their team off consistently when other fans pay their money and do not do the same. Is it because they think they are better then all other humans, or are they just scum. Do they realize that people constantly notice this, and Think that it is disgusting. You are giving your state and the league a bad name.
If I was the owner. I would put the price of the damn tickets up to get rid of all the scum bags and tell the fans why I have increased the price so the nice and 'proper fans' would turn on you.
Booooooooooo
By the way, my guess is that most of you are a bunch of short arses who sat on the bench for all of under 16s and 18s and never got any court time, and so feel you have to spend the rest of your life degrading players and people , always thinking you can do better than them,
Booooooo. Hoooooooo

Yeah, Adelaide is the only place where fans boo their team....regardless of course that it was the coach getting booed. And "consistently"? "Nice and proper fans" - just what every pro team needs, an unquestioning, clueless bunch of drones. Whatever.

Sick of reading about this issue, let the season play out with Marty. I couldn't care less anymore. Watching this team is like pulling teeth now anyway. Surely the only way Clarke can save his job now is a deep run into the playoffs, which I can't see happening. Then next season, if there is one for the Sixers, can be a new start. Sure, it sucks to start again, but I would much prefer it to watching the same shit we have seen for the last 3 seasons.

@Speed44..

I agree let Marty's 3 year vision come to fruition.

Then @ season's end re-assess for any minor tweaks that the Sixers need.

Save your typing finger Camby, I don't actually think anyone reads your posts anymore. There are just so many and all stating the same thing. We all know you love Marty and think he will be a long term successful coach, good for you.

I didn't always think that he should stay until the end of his contract. I have just resigned myself to the fact that he will stay.

We don't need "minor tweaks", we need a major overhaul. Starting with the coaching staff. As I said earlier, the only way I will accept Marty being back, is if we make the FINALS, not just playoffs. I have had it with him, and look forward to his failure and firing.

Actually I have long stated I have no love for Marty.

I just want the supporters to 'support' the team just like the other 7 teams' fanbases do.

Booing your own team is poor form especially at home and on TV.

I don't think even Moose got that treatment.

Marcus,

Can't you see that those pleading for his dismissal are doing so because they DO care for the team? If they genuinely believe (and I think it's reasonable for them to) that Marty is incapable of turning this around, why would they support his continued employment?

Supporting your team doesn't just mean blind, one-eyed faith in what they're doing. It's OK to challenge the status quo, if it's not producing results. It's OK to expect more from your team & ask for them to make the moves that put them in the best situation to succeed.

Also do you think fans are sitting in their seats thinking ... "oh we better not boo this game is on national tv!"

Watching the game on TV I was amazed at how seemingly silent it was through the TV - can anyone verify this who went to the actual game ? When the 36ers were up 21pts it was almost as if everyone was expecting them to hand the game to NZ or were shocked they were ahead by 21 ?

Secondly can we try and separate ourselves from Americans who boo their teams/coaches? I think we are a little classier than that.

As for a possible coach change after this week if it happens(results permitting), the horse has bolted as the season is probably null and void.

@Blah Blah...

Absolutely it is a fan's Prerogative to push the team to achieve more, and seek change from the organisation where it is required.

However I would add :

1) The organisation IS TRYING to address its issues at the moment. Prime example, they have identified a deficiency in the shooting / scoring department, moved on a player that didn't fit the requirements and brought in someone that may. Lets give that a chance to make an impact.

2) Marty...

Many have called for his head. The Sixers organisation has decided to back Marty. They would have the most intel, they have the most to lose, and they know what is best for the team.

We've voice our concerns, they've heard, they have been taken under advisement and withheld any action. So a decision has been made FROM THE TOP.

Its time we accepted this decision and back the team as is.

Why carry on and cause further disharmony and disunity within the group?

@ManuteBol's Father...

No I do not expect the fans to see it is televised and be on good behaviour.

I expect the 'most knowledgeable' fans to show some class at ALL TIMES, not just on TV.

Or do you only excercise decorum when you win?