I was thinking about darren whilst reading 36 reasons column 5 minutes ago. Hopefully hes ready to throw a shirt back on

Ng is on 6 figures as a doctor, lol why would he come back as a cheap role player 3 month contract?

Clarke's not a fan of catch and shoot
wants a create off the dribble.

Anonymous I think you are giving Clarke too much Credit. The team would have used practically all salary cap this season. So lets just say CJ was on 70k, how do you think they will get a "Star" import or Australian with that money?

Clarke's buddy Daly will probably move into the team and that will be it for the rest of the season.

If they some how find a star for 70k I will be more then happy to eat my words.

At this point with the little cash we have left i imagine, stuff finding the next Farley lets bring the man himself back. Played ok a couple of years ago and if nothing else is a fan favourite. I'm sure he could give you what CJ did with his eyes closed.

This whole thing just stinks to me, fire that guy so attention goes off me.

Kavossy Franklin the former PG of the Hawks?

Anonymous, out of that list perhaps Braswell would be ideal. Can create his own shot, hit the 3 and has confidence. Also he probably would play for that sort of money.

Also must take into account the coach probably wont remove anyone from the starting 5 and that anyone scoring 15-20ppg would put them in the top 5 players in the league and for 70k that is very unreasonable.

I'll be surprised if they replace Massingale. I believe we have enough talent on the roster to move on without anyone else. The decision by the club provides 3-5 minutes more court time opportunity for players like Creek and Weigh.

BigAds, you could be right it could just be a ploy to save money. The organisation perhaps felt they wouldn't be any better or any worse without CJ so might as well save the money but I don't think many fans will like that way of thinking.

Marty's decision, not the club's. So, not a money saving decision.

I'm not convinced money is really the motivation here KJ.

Club have made it clear that Marty came to them with the recommendation to cut CJ, they simply supported his position. As such I doubt it was about the money, that's not Marty's concern.

I think Marty was simply struggling to get court time for all the players and applied the addition by subtraction theory.

No way u can win a tittle with all aussie team!!!

Sorry for the echo folks

Bring in a new coach to bring back NG & have some fun with Marty's fuck ups! Wow the right person could make him look really stupid - quicker rather than later..

Anon '550, not every day you play NBL, unless you're Darren and have already played for years. He has a new son and is not interested in playing NBL. Waste of time discussing it. He could've made the same call before this season and didn't.

BidAds, I don't think this call is addition by subtraction. Marty has no financial stake and interest in saving money unless he's going to want to spend it later.

mk, load of crap. Put Bruton in Perth for Lisch and Perth could do it.

Maybe Marty Clarke heard Ken Cole's comments about using only 7 or 8 guys in the rotation?

The question I ask is why replace CJ? It might give someone like Mitch Creek more court time which IMO he deserves (and hopefully at the expense of the defensively defficient Nathan Crosswell). Creek can play both the 2 and 3 spots. He's one of the league's best defenders and while he hasn't got a great mid-long range shot, give him an inch and he'll attack the basket just about every time. He just needs to learn to pass more, currently he's only averaging 0.3 assists per game.

I agree Issac, Marty has no financial interest. The addition by subtraction comment was in reference to Clarke possibly finding it easier to get better output from the rotations by having CJ removed from the equation.

maybe replace massingale with trevor gleeson.

You don't have to cut a player to play someone else more minutes and simplify a rotation. You just don't play them. This is purely about cutting him before probation was up and having a chance to replace him and hopes that is enough to get them through close games.

Paying out two coaches and potentially pissing off the playing group is a big call. A few of the younger players are very keen on him.

go for former cairns import Andrew Warren... good size... good shooter... ive met him a few times and is a good fella too!!

i was thinking in the same mind as AB warren from cairns shot the ball well whilst in Cairns,we need someone to come off the bench give a bit of spark,NG would be good but he is earning 6 figures as a Dr .

A shooting guard would be good ,hope Clarke gets a good replacement.not a dud please,i believe Clarke had some names on his list before settling with Massingale(cheap option)

The Whisper is Warren!!

J U L I U S

Just echoing what Holden V8 was saying. I think this is a great chance to increase Creek's minutes which he definitely deserves. I'm sick of seeing him only get 8-12 every game, especially when the stats show he's an efficient scorer, rebounds the ball well, defends well and just brings speed and athleticism to a group that seriously lacks it. The kid is going to bolt the next chance he gets unless he's given an opportunity to play and considering the fact he's seriously earned it, now the chance to give it to him has arrived.

It wasn't quite $37k, but I heard Deleon was sub-$80k last year with the Blaze. Might be a bit of a black hole, but he can create for himself, that's for sure. Either of the imports the Hawks have this year could've been useful.

I don't remember Warren creating much, mostly just playing as a static shooter?

Agree with AK-47 on Creek.

The rotations and the minutes are all out of whack. If Creeky was injured last game I can accept that, but if was only give 2 mins 31 secs and was fully fit.....well that's just a waste.

2:31.

It's pointless getting a replacement if they are just going to sit on the bench and admire the cheerleaders.

So far the average minutes per game are:
Gibbo (32.45), Weigh (31.75), DJ (29.57), Mungo (26.53), Peach (22.88), Luke (22.23), Crossy (13.27), Creeky (13.23), CJ (9.7)

Everyone keeps commenting on poor rotations and minutes, but is part of the problem the length of the runs on court as well?

Compare this to NZ
Jackson (30.8), Abercrombie (28.4), Bruton (22.6), Corletto (22.4), Vukona (22.0), Pledgehammer (21.9), Hudson (17.2), Boucher (17.0), Henry (9.4)

The 9th men are about the same, but the 7th and 8th men for the Breakers are getting more minutes. The Sixers with the top 4 minutes are on court for a total of 16 mins more than the Breakers top 4 minutes players. Does this mean they are more worn out at the crucial times and the others get colder sooner because they aren't in the game? What's the best rotations?

Before CJ is replaced, the question of rotational woes must be answered.

Jackie Moon

Anon, teams would just fake injuries to replace players. They already do or exaggerate issues to save face for the player.

I don't think teams cutting and swapping players is as big a problem as you think. You really want Townsville to have to play out the season with Forte and Withers scoring 3-5 PPG?

Why impose two extra player salaries per team and have guys riding the pine permanently just because a handful don't love player turnover?

I've really disliked the amount of people on Creek's bandwagon the last few years demanding him more minutes but I've come to the conclusion that WE NEED TO PLAY CREEK MORE. Him and Petrie are the only two that attack the ring hard and finish. Cadee attacks but settles with floaters and runners due to his small stature. Crosswell doesn't attack hard and what I've seen of Gibson is that he is more a floor spacer and not as aggressive as I'd like him to be. Weigh is better used as a shooter, or in the post as a playmaker. He just doesn't have the athleticism or finishing ability's like Creek.

By no means am I a Creek fanboi but the simple fact is that he has to play a few minutes a game more.

Ingles, get on board the Creek Train.

Like you say, he's an exciting player, athletic, aggressive to the basket, can create something out of nothing and when he is on court, something happens.

He is treated poorly. I am trying to work out if he is treated like a good piece of china only brought out when grandma comes over, or if he is treated like the naughty stepson and kept in the woodshed, shunned from the eyes of visitors.

He needs more minutes. 2:31 last week. If he was injured, that's understandable, but if not, that's poor IMO. 2:31.

Thanks Anon, I had expected a bite much earlier than this, but it came eventually. Very much a tongue in cheek reference to Stephen.

Creek, Petrie and Cadee were apparently playing sick in that last game.

When someone posts about Weigh getting more minutes there's usually not much on the hook

And if the post is about Marty getting another 3 years there's usually a bit of berley in the water

Braswell? Seriously? How is that any improvement over CJ?

No way it's Chris Warren. Terrible fit. Checked his twitter and absolutely no suggestions there, just his usual insight into poetry, the middle east etc

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