Dandenong men and women to win it all.

Ballarat to have a completely different side. No Scoines (injuries/retired), Barnes (football), McCallum (football), Reggie Larry (import), Coenraad is heading to taking the year off if Kevin White keeps getting minutes he could be considered an import so they probably won't opt for that option and Joyce might be staying put in Wollongong.

They have added Matt Hansen, Kris Blicavs and Chris Smith from Mt Gambier.

Far to many player signings to be completed at this stage to speculate to much but what we know so far in the Men is

Bendigo have two outstanding imports in McFarlin and Ferguson

Dandenong return the 4 most important players to their list (Harms, Hobba, Montreal and Lewis) and bring in a young stud in Odigie who will more than fill the shoes of the loss of Jois

Herbert back for Geelong will be a big boost to their chances

Mt Gambier will be much better with Daly joining and if imports are good they should be back into finals action

Albury will certainly be under the pump. It will be interesting to see who they get in place of Ferguson.

Word is that Albury have a gun PG coming in to replace Ferguson and with the rest of the roster returning they should be in with a good chance to defend again. Depth is their only issue and an injury to any of their starting 5 would make it very hard for them to even make finals, it's that fine a line.

Lets not forget they only made finals last year by head to head! Knox were clear on top but Albury, Nunawading, Hobart, Ballarat and Kilsyth all tied on 16-12 record for 2nd-6th in battle for top 4!

Hobart have been hanging onto veteran players for a long time so having to go through some development pain was always on the cards. It's either that or splash the cash to buy in a team.

Massive ask for Youl, can't see Stewart doing that, he will bring someone in for sure. Don't think Deba would be the answer or Armstrong, but they would both be ahead of Youl you'd think.

Masunda to Knox

Not much PT at Knox for Tiri with Sean Carroll playing 35mpg...

Rumour is that Mt Gambier is looking at Willie Farley and Kevin Brooks, for the two import spots

No guarantee Masunda will be moving to Melb at all.

Just ask Canberra about that. The league is too strong now for the small town teams to rely only local talent.
I heard that Canberra's new import PG can play. So that is a start, but gathering from last year’s performance they will need more than that.

Frankston may be back into finals contention with the addictions of Ben Louis and James Orr. Both very long athletic players who contribute across the board.
Returning all the important players from last year as well.
New coach will bring new energy. They will be tough.

If Brisbane can avoid the injury issues they had last year they will be the big improves, Tueta, Kenny, Gameron, Brebner, George is a nice Australian core to build around.

I have heard that Gameron and Amar from Brisbane are both going elsewhere

Malvik was told he wont be required for 2013. Kilsyth to sign another new import too.

Point guard i believe.

Kilsyth looking tough with Import PG (no doubt similar to Ferguson, got to love the copycat syndrome) import shooter, O'Hea, Masunda, McMillan and Lang. They have a few good kids there as well, should see them back in finals?

Gameron and Ammar not back at Brisbane? That would hurt them big time!

Word out of Knox is that they will invest in key kids from their D-League program. Names like Horstmann, Waterhouse, Hare, Johnson, Leigh.

Nice mix with Massingale, Strong, Hill, S. Carroll, Phillip.

Also had word that Massingale is in almost career best shape cos of his time at Adelaide. Scary thought for the rest of the league if he STARTS the season in career best...

Fill in the gaps

Albury
In: Hollis, Opacic, Momo
Gone: Jazzmarr
Rumour: Import PG

Ballarat
In: Blicavs, Hanson, Smith
Gone: Coenraad, Joyce, Scoines, McCallum, Barnes
Rumour:

Brisbane
In: George, Tuetu, Kenny
Gone:
Rumour: Ammar?? Gameron??

Bendigo
In: Jazzmar, McFarlin, Atkins, Probert, Bartlett, Bell, Hogan
Gone: Imports, Tanner, Novak
Rumour:

Canberra
In: Griffin
Gone: Lacey (melb work), Smith
Rumour:

Dandenong
In: Odigie, Lewis, Montreal, Harms, Hobba
Gone: Jois, Barker, Louis
Rumour:

Frankston
In: Orr, Louis, McInnes, Witherden, Chapman, Dennis
Gone: Imports
Rumour:

Geelong
In: Herbert, Loader, Medved, Owusu
Gone: Rebula, Imports?
Rumour:

Hobart
In:
Gone: Osborne, Misunda?
Rumour:

Kilsyth
In: Kusnyer, Bridgewater, Misunda?
Gone: Blair, Malvic
Rumour:

Knox
In:
Gone:
Rumour:

Mt Gambier
In: Warbout, Daly
Gone: Jeffree
Rumour:

Nunawading
In: McDonald, Cameron
Gone: Hicks
Rumour:

NW Tassie
In: Gaff, Harris, Payne
Gone: Shawntes
Rumour:

Sandringham
In: Pichon,
Gone: Mualbach
Rumour: Hoare?

Mt Gambier
In: Warbout, Daly, Burdon, Sutton
Gone: Jeffree, Smith
Rumour: Russel?

If Kilsyth have signed Masunda they won't get an import PG. O Hea and Masunda will share ball carrying duties with youngster Johnson backing up. You can expect an import 2/3 and Bridgewater as 2nd import. Starters will most likely be Masunda, O Hea, Import, Lang and MacMillan. Pretty solid Squad!

Looks like Knox will have a bit of a rebuilding year with a number of their core group pushing 30. With Carrol, Massingale, Mick, Lester forming the core they're still pretty strong. If they can get a few of their juniors up to scratch they'll have some sustained power looking foward. Having said that they should definely make finals.

Albury will be under the pump.. The loss of Ferguson really rules them out of contention I think. Even if they retain their core group, if they can't replace Ferguson with an import just as good or better they're gonna struggle.

Finals will be Dandenong, Kilsyth, Knox, Nuna, Mt Gambier, Frankston, Brisbane, Geelong.

Heard it here first.

Polk is a beast. saw him at Knox last year tear Lester a new one. Could fit in nicely at a Franga or Sandy

Bridgewater is now an aussie so expect Kilsyth to get two imports (one is Kusyner) on top of him, O'Hea, Johnson, Lang, McMillan and maybe Masunda.
You would think a PG would be the right choice and O'Hea can focus on being the Shooting Guard he is.
That would be a championship type list!

Polk would surely get a job in SEABL elsewhere if he wanted to play here. Agreed, Sandringham may want to pair him with Pichon to clean the glass!

Mt Gambier, Frankston, Geelong, Brisbane, Ballarat, Nunawading could all be in the hunt for him if Hobart have released him?

thats some good size and shooting ability for the frankston import!! A stretch 4/5.

They will be much better this season.

New coach with great resume
James Orr and Ben Louis very athletic players
This new import plus another!
Mitch Chapman running the show, Grant Dennis and Matt Witherden doing their thing plus a couple of kids.

Frankston may just be back in the hunt for a conference title again!

Any more word on Geelong?
Mecanovic out, Rebula gone. Imports gone?
Saw Medved, Loader, Owusu and Herbert signed.

Sandringham, Knox and Nunawading very quiet as well.

I don't hink Lacey is playing anywhere.
Would be a handy pick up.

Youl to uni in launcestn. Inches no.

Spectres women have had some underwhelming signings, after the group they had last season it looks like nearly everyone has left?

SEABL Watcher, any clues?

Wow. Dann would be a great pickup. The loss of Osborne would hurt the Chargers. Dann can play many spots and would be a great asset to any team.

Gynes back to Canberra? Well I'll be...

I would have thought both he & the club would have had enough of each other.

Janev back for NW Tassie.
Janev, Gaff, Payne(new import).
Big line up with Harris as well.
Who is gong to get the ball up the court to them?

Really Janev with Harris, Gaff and Payne?

That is a very big line up. Harris needs the ball within 3ft of rim. Gaff is good to about 8ft. Janev can shoot the 3 so that fits. New import Payne looks like a close to the basket guy as well although does have ability to attack rim from perimeter.

They have the size and will play a long 2-3 zone!

Ben Armstrong and Nick Haywood, Lee McGaffin and Dylan Warren surely round out the group.

If they can make tall ball work they could be pretty good.

Masunda signs with Kilsyth.
Good pick up.
They already have a new import SF, what position will there other import be?
Surely Masunda would not have signed if he is going to be playing behind an import PG.

http://www.seabl.com.au/index.php?id=257&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=6321&cHash=41ce84b281

So are you saying that Masunda's starting position in Hobart doesn't count?

I second Anons comment. @ Tiger Watcher.. What criteria do you hold for a 'top team'? Hobart have been to consecutive finals for a number of years now bar one last year where they missed out by one or two games.

Clearly Tiger watcher doesnt know a lot about the SEABL. Nor Masunda

Masunda to Kilsyth is great for them and a big loss for Hobart!

Interesting to see what 2nd import thet now bring in as I'm pretty sure he wouldn't sign there to come off the bench! He could have done that at Knox!!

Good pick up by Canberra.
Dowdell is tough in SEABL.
Last time he played for NW Tassie he averaged 20 & 10.
Just what the Gunners needed, with a healthy Gynes and import PG, Gunners suddenly might win a game or 2.

Gunners getting together a group that will be SEABL level this year!

Import guard
Gynes
Dowdell
Miller
Richardson
Mesman

Good platform to build from. The Gunners are back!!

It just shows that in SEABL just like most pro leagues you have to spend the dollars to get the results.

& even then it isn't a given.

Agree that you need to bring in a couple of talented players each year to win SEABL but it will be the locals that keep you in the hunt year after year!

Knox offered the same to masunda.

Knox could of done with Masunda, he would of added some speed to there slow backcourt.

Masunda would have had to have played BEHIND Carrol.
You can see why he chose Kilsyth and what was the Raiders new Head Coach thinking.

Where will he be this season?

Tony Meier to join Frankston? Very good shooting big man.

Supercats adding Ash Cannan to roster, important signing for them.

Bandits have picked up two more players, seems like depth wont be the issue everyone keeps suggesting. Bandits to go back to back!!

Bandits adding more bigs but that is not where they were lacking. They will struggle in the backcourt if this new import doesn't fire or gets into trouble with injury or fouls.

Re: Supercats adding Ash Cannan to roster

I bet a few clubs are kicking themselves about this.

Re Cannan it wouldn't make any difference what other teams did, he wants to live in Geelong so its a no brainer.

True but money talks

Albury really need to be given more respect! They won the SEABL with 6 players last year, will have 8 this year. New import looks like he will be a big time scorer. They have to be considered a strong chance to repeat!

Albury's chances depend entirely on their new import guard. Ferguson was a first rate player and carried the team for much of their success so Vann has some big shoes to fill. Unless he's close to being as good then I don't see Albury making the playoffs. They only just squeezed in last season thans to a better win/loss against the teams they finished equal with.

Ntumba is a great player but he needs to get the ball. The rest of the team is ordinary even with added depth and Chalmers hasn't convinced me he can coach either.

Ntumba, Opacic, Hollis & Harding frontcourt

Vann, Payne, Duck, Watson, DeKoyer backcourt

9 man rotation gives them great depth. They have strong rebounding, defence and perimeter shooting in the group.

Agreed that Vann needs to be good but looking at his numbers and video, he looks pretty decent.

Harsh not to give Chalmers your confidence, he took the second worst team in the league to the conference and league titles!!

This talk of Albury deserving respect annoys me. They brought in 2 good imports and a couple of decent role players from Sydney. Only 2 or 3 locals ever saw more than junk minutes so exactly what are we supposed to respect?

Money talks and commands respect.

Need to respect the fact they are the champs and they have added another two good role players to their roster!

Without doubt they are spending some $$ but which club isn't?

Albury spent very little on players. They were extremely lucky with their import selection. it will be a good test without Jazz there to see how they go this season. I suspect a lot of people took the Bandits last season to be the usual easy beats and didnt do their homework at all. This season that won;y happen again.

Knox Women rumored to have picked up a big name, anyone know who.?

Rumour ..1 guard from Nunawading and 1 Big from Bendigo

Kunek to knox

Kunek is not going to Knox. Whisper is its Rebecca Allen. If its true that's a great get and huge loss for Nunawading who have seriously imploded in the off season.

Allan/Richards/ Wilson/Fryters/Andrews....not a bad starting 5

Pretty decent starting 5 that's for sure.

Season predictions for the women:

South Conf:

Knox
Kilsyth
Hobart
Ballarat
Launceston
Nunawading
Albury

East Conf:

Geelong
Dandenong
Sandringham
Bendigo
Canberra
Brisbane
Frankston

Sandringham and Hobart to improve and be legit, Nunawading big sliders, Knox to win it all fianally.

Unless that was the Hobart women...

That would be Hobart women's team signing the big.

The word is still pretty strong that Hobart have got Dann to go with Gregg in the front court. Williams Jnr and George in backcourt.

Don't be surprised if another NBL bench player ends up going down there as well...

Fill in the gaps

ALBURY-WODONGA BANDITS
Imports: Ntumba, Vann
In: Hollis, Opacic, Harding, Watson, Duck

Gone: Jazzmarr (Bendigo)
Rumour:

BALLARAT MINERS
Imports: Hanson
In: Blicavs, Smith, Bruce

Gone: Coenraad, j0yce, McCallum, Barnes
Rumour: Scoines

BRISBANE SPARTANS
Imports:
In: George, Tuetu, Kenny

Gone:
Rumour: Ammar, Gameron

BENDIGO BRAVES
Imports: Ferguson, McFarlin
In: Garlepp, Atkins, Probert, Bell, Hogan

Gone: Imports, Tanner (Retire), Novak (Retire), Bartlett (Shepparton)
Rumour:

CANBERRA GUNNERS
Imports: Griffin
In: Dowdell, Gynes

Gone: Lacey (melb work), Smith
Rumour:

DANDENONG RANGERS
Imports: Lewis, Montreal
In: Odigie Harms, Hobba

Gone: Jois (College), Barker (College), Louis (Frankston)
Rumour:

FRANKSTON BLUES
Imports: Long
In: Orr, Louis, McInnes, Witherden, Chapman, Dennis, Riggs, Bice

Gone: Watson (Albury)
Rumour: Meier (import)

GEELONG SUPERCATS
Imports: Wilson, Mercer
In: Herbert, Loader, Medved, Owusu, Cannan, Friend

Gone: Rebula (Corio Bay), Barrett (ACL), Mecanovic (ACL)
Rumour:

HOBART CHARGERS
Imports: Williams Jnr, Gregg
In: George

Gone: Osborne (AFL), Misunda (Kilsyth)
Rumour: Dann, NBL Bench player

KILSYTH COBRAS
Imports: Kusnyer
In; Bridgewater, Misunda, Lang, McMillan, O'Hea

Gone: Blair, Malvic
Rumour:

KNOX RAIDERS
In:
Gone:
Rumour:

NUNAWADING SPECTRES
Imports;
In: McDonald, Cameron, Conn, Casperz, Czwarno

Gone: Hicks
Rumour:

NW TASMANIA THUNDER
Imports: Gaff, Payne,
In: Harris, Wright, Janev

Gone: Gary
Rumour:

SANDRINGHAM SABRES
Imports: Pichon, Cooperwood
In:

Gone: Mualbach,
Rumour: Hoare

MT GAMBIER PIONEERS
Imports:
In: Warbout, Daly, Burdon, Sutton

Gone: Jeffree (Retire), Smith (Ballarat)
Rumour: Russel (Retire)

What minutes per game can an NBL player average before they become a resticted player for SEABL?

re:anon, about the restricted players.

I have seen people previously ask SEABL about their restriction rules and the answer from SEABL is to email them for a response, so not sure if it is officially published anywhere.

There was this somewhat cryptic article in the Bendigo Advertiser in late October regarding the problems the Braves & Lady Braves may have with restricted players in 2013 - hard to work out though if the restrictions apply to both the mens & womens leagues though:

here is the link to the full article, but here is parts about restricted status:

http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/417218/restricted-players-a-concern-for-braves-and-lady-braves/

*Each SEABL team can only have a maximum of three A, B or C restricted players - and no more than two A or B restricted players.

An A restricted player is any non-Australian required to hold a Foreign Players Licence, while B restricted is any player who averages more than 20 minutes per game in the previous WNBL season before the January deadline.

The Spirit's Madeleine Garrick could be a C restricted player if she averages between 14 and 20 minutes for the WNBL club.

Meanwhile, Harvey has secured his two import positions for next season, but remains unsure about MVP Tom Garlepp’s availability.

Garlepp is averaging just under 20 minutes for the Sydney Kings in the NBL and Harvey is scouting possible replacements in case last season’s star recruit becomes a B restricted player.*

So I'm guessing that means both the mens & womens use A & B restrictions - A = import, B = more than 20 mins in NBL or WNBL; does anyone know if 'C' restriction also applies for the men or is that purely for the women?

Out of curiosity - what happens if a player misses a season of NBL or WNBL due to injury but their previous season saw them ave above 20mins a game, are they counted as restricted or non-restricted? And what if a player sits out of the NBL or WNBL season leading into the SEABL season?

re:anon, about the restricted players.

Great post, thanks. Some comments:

- Averaging 20 minutes per game seems a lot of court time before a player picks up restricted status.

- I am fairly sure that if you do not play in the previous season then you become an unrestricted player.

- I wonder how they rate Aussies playing overseas in terms of restricted status.

Harvey has been scouting the Brisbane area and might have found a possible player.

Chargers will have an intersting line up.

Dont mind it actually, cant see the issue. Post links to other state league promo vids and sites, lets see what the measuring stick is.

SEABL 2013 will be AWESOME!! I Love SEABL more than the NBL now, so many quality games to watch every weekend fri, sat and sunday and heaps of rivalry's.

The clip is a recycled one from the 30th celebrations I beleive and used t promote the upcoming 2013 season. It may not be the best, but it's out there. When was the last time the NBL recently produced a clip?

tell me more about cooper?...who is he?

Hobart announces Dann signing (finally) & return of Armstrong

How have Hobart signed an import guard, jordan gregg and Polk?

Hobart released the import guard once Robbie Inches was back onboard. Gregg was already signed so they went back after Polk for the other import spot.
Will Deba be back?

Spartans have been quiet.
Any word out of Brisvegas, anyone?

Anyone know when or where the NBL restricted player list will come out?

It must have come out already as Garlepp has just re-signed with Bendigo.

Yes, it was out last week I think.

Martin Iti reported to have signed with Southern District Spartans along with a Waratah forward Rory Sutton who had previously trialed with Albury.

Iti to Brissie? He should do well at this level if he can stay on the court long enough.

I'd heard another higher profile team was interested in him but the asking price was too high so I'm surprised to see him showing up in Brisbane.

Will be intrested to see the change at Frankston with Raunchy gone

Iti, George and Brebnar?
That's a big front line.

Or maybe not...

http://www.sportingpulse.com/get_file.cgi?id=2241695

Bluey: Frankston didnt want Calvin so no big loss although a good pick up for Mildura. Cant help but wonder why no other SEABL team snapped him up though ??