news?
Years ago
I notice South and Forestville have announced their Div 1 coaching line-ups. Any word from elsewhere?
Is the Centrals press release far away?
;
Years ago
Yeah you would think the clubs would release the coaches prior to trials.
Hydra
Years ago
Centrals release is being worked on prior to being made public. It is arguably the most awaited release for the upcoming season.
R
Years ago
Gonna be hard to top Centrals lineup from last year. Arguably the best the state has ever seen I think.
,
Years ago
other than forum banter or observational reasons - 'announcing" your coaches on the internet is just some PR.
if anyone is dinkum about knowing who is coaching D1 and the club has actually made the appointments - contacting the JDO will reveal who is doing what.
Get with the times.
Professional organisations across the world have BIOs of their senior executives and in the case of basketball teams their coaching staff. Why can't our local clubs get more professional in actively recognising the skillsets, qualifications and experience of their coaches and setting the benchmark for their own coaches to aspire to as well as those externally. It's called being open, transparent and accountable.
It also helps make parents/athletes make informed decisions on their commitments to a club and helps them ask the right questions of their club and others.
,
Years ago
as i said "announcing" just for internet surfers or window shoppers.
all clubs will appoint their D1 coaches in due course.
none of these appointments on club websites - have any bios attached.
i agree though some websites could be updated and bit prouder.
Not sure that clubs would want people who are going to move to their club because of 1 div 1 coach they like.
Those same people are more likely to move a season or 2 latter, again to another coach who they like.
Why would clubs want these people???
If you want to move to a club, do it because of the coaching you see across all grades in previous seasons, that would be your best indicator of coaching over the next 2 - 4 years.
, - It shows professionalism. No you are right there is no Bio's but most people can put a face to a name. It is a difference between an active JDO and a lazy one.
lettuceeatcake
Years ago
Anyone else see the irony of Bell and Holland both coaching div 1 teams for the same club in the wake of the magic/warriors fiasco?
I think it is digraceful that Bell helps set up Magic (for the bad of basketball), then leaves and goes to Fville. ... All about her.
fan
Years ago
Well I guess she thought she could get Div 1 teams at Magic and when she couldn't bring that off......
She pissed off. She is the reason basketball is in a mess out in the West.
G......T
Years ago
I say let magic in Div 1 and 2 and see how they go.
How about a grading carnival to find out which teams should be in div 1 and div 2
No automatic entry into the top district grades
Western Magic is a experiment that ruined the Warriors big time,now its time to ban them & proclaim Woodville as the only club in that part of town.All the founding fathers have left and the ship to sink, truly ungraceful.
If both these ladies had been able to put aside their petty grievances there would would have been a strong viable woodville/magic in the comp instead of a dying woodville girls and dead but doesn't know it magic.
Hey ,who is this Corey guy that got booted out of West that everybody is talking about all over Hoops he should take over at st Clair & prove he can get the job done.Even if he is as half as good as im hearing he is more than qualified for the position.dude we need somebody to make this Warriors /Magic thing go down-are you up to it?
Rumor from Norwood is 3 current Central coaches about to coach at the flames in 12 / 13 season on the girls side .
I wonder does that mean they are bringing girls with them ?
irish invasion perhaps.... surely norwood are not that dumb but then again country kids worth more than the trouble the leprechauns will bring
I know of a club that a coach has returned to coach div1 so their child can play in the team!
R
Years ago
Norwood are in for more than they bargained for, but that's their problem.
Centrals going to have a hard time replacing those who made up part of the greatest coaching lineup ever assembled next season?
Shame, I was looking forward to the press release. I assume it'll be tame by comparison now.
anyone know who the tigers div 1 coahes are, they have trials this week but no coach announcements
mimas
Years ago
The 'Irish invasion' would account for two of the three coaches - who would the third be? I'm guessing the Irelands would be 14s/16s, assuming Schroeder is doing 18s, so who is the third Centrals coach heading to Norwood and are they coaching 12s?
you country coaches love talking yourselves up. One question?? Wheres the results??
dione
Years ago
Murphy is the pick of the SAC coaches. In fact, he's probably the best by a country mile.
I would be vary careful of any head coach who does not come to all trainings and who plays favourites and brings in players from FAR distant country areas. Those players may be talented, but if they don't train they affect team balance.
Dione, the results of the U16 Div 1 boys competition for the last 3 seasons:
Sturt: 40W/48G, +26 pt win average
Forestville: 38/48, + 13 pt
North: 31/48, +10 pt
Norwood: 30/48 + 9 pt
Southern: 27/48, -1 pt
Eastern: 21/47, 0 pt
West: 19/48, -5 pt
Centrals: 12/48, -16 pt
Woodville: 10/47, -17 pt
South: 6/48, -19 pt
Your team Norwood has been doing well.
do that now with the 18's and see if there is a improvement
Barry
Years ago
Country kids or coaches aren't the problem but weak clubs who are desparate for players and coaches are ! Most clubs have a rigid training attendance policy that accommodates country players, who by the way, put in as many training hours per week as their metro counterparts as well as up to 8 hrs travel/week.
The 'Irish' invasion maybe correct but both those coaches reside in metro areas !
413, Norwood always seem to be strong in 16s and 18s. It's the younger ages that haven't done so well.
Jack Toft
Years ago
Nikki Ireland is a great coach. Norwood is closer to her and her sister is playing ABL there. IF she moves to Norwood then that will be a big loss to Centrals. Ben Wigzell has slipped through Central's net as well.
Irish performance at centrals - results speak for themselves , under14 girls into nationals,classics and finals !!! What a pity any at centrals don't see past the boys program to notice this !! Consequence will probably be an exodus of players leaving girls program in disarray
Jack Toft
Years ago
Barry,
The training attendance point is so valid. If players are not attending training then their position on the team should be questioned as it affects team balance, they do not know the plays and the coach cannot work on their development. Country based players do have the travel disadvantage, but they also usually play in their own league and usually a second sport.
Regardless of their situation, players need to attend at least one session per week and clubs need to be strong enough to reprimand or drop players who fail to attend training without a valid reason. Consider three actual teams 4 seasons ago.
Team A: 69% attendance: Won 0 of 13 games
Team B: 79% attendance: Won 3 of 13 games
Team C: 86% attendance: Won 8 of 14 games
Sorry but prefer Norwood to be stronger than centrals. No starplex trip
No changes to Norwood under 12 coaches div 1 and 2 , that part of the problem going forward . Just watch the under 12 girls play and you will see! Sisters have to go , no improvement in program for 3 years = poor results = coaching movement.
Which has happened in the 14 and 16 div 1 coaches
That's right 14's div 1 coach will be the 18 girls div 2 coach a good right for Troy but pressure on him to perform . As this will be the best group of girls that he has had .The 16 div 1 coach has moved to South to run that program in same age group after not being offered same position at Norwood
Mad Season
Years ago
No word from Southern about their coaching lineup next season?
anon
Years ago
Bell and Holland - now thats a great combo for harmony. Perhaps can talk about the farce that is now Magic and why they not still coaching there. Seems that the great magic experimemnt they were so passionate about has failed.The hit taken by magic to loose these 2 coaches and drivers making the program suffer - need back to rebuild. Magic are still viable and are building profile despite opposition - great promotion is working as more teams than ever expected.
anon
Years ago
not sure if holand and bell were at magic together - know still bell at magic though doing great job with limited resources
When will the Div 1 coaching line up for all clubs be released?
disgruntled
Years ago
jdo going to coach a div1 team to make sure their kid is in the side although not up to div 1 standard now that's bewildering!!
Nikki Ireland coaching her last game for Centrals tonight against her new team, Norwood. I hear a lot of that team is following her, so there could be a few Norwood feathers ruffled when they get bumped to Div 2
Not her last game ... Finals then Nationals.
Unless you're saying that Centrals aren't allowing her to continue?
are you implying the irelands are going to give country kids favourable treatment over better metro kids??? well, I never heard such a thing.
Jack Toft
Years ago
Wup, Wup, Wup, Warning Sarcasm alert!
957, the sarcasm meter has gone off the scale following your post and you are hereby charged with Level 1 Sarcasm. We could impose a penalty, but sarcasm only works on smart ones.
Norwood could be the new Centrals. Norwood is Centrals "minus the white"? Will anyone in U14 girls Div 1 actually reside within a 5 km radius of MARS, or will they just don the red and blue tops on a Friday night? Will Norwood insist on a token "local" in that team? Does anyone actually know what mid-week training is?
It's easy have a trial with new girls from Centrals and the girls from Norwood . The best 8 make Div 1 and the rest play div 2. , couldn't be easier .No poltics just ability
Except coaches promise things to get people to change clubs - it happens all the way up to their ABL teams
Jack, I usually love your posts, but how is it relevant whether or not the girls live within 5km of MARS?
Basketball in SA is not zoned, therefore players have the right to choose any of the ten clubs to play at. Physical location has nothing to do with it.
No one has the problems Southern has!
Some of the best coaches have not even been told about trials this Sunday as they dont fit Mr Smiths grand plan.
After the strides this Club made it is all falling down due to a commmittee that can not comtrol this man.
The AGM can not come soon enough!
Southern will make the right decisions. Brenton Davies you should be ashamed to be posting stuff about a club that put up with your crap as president. The committee are obviously still mopping up after your mess where all decisions were based around you and your kids.
By what I've heard from some players in the seniors, the above comment is soo true. I have been told there is a rumour that this Brenton guy wants an aba gig to secure his daughters spot.
Daddys Girl
Years ago
I've heard that as well,he has done it his whole career alternating between his kids to advantadge whichever one needs the most nuturing !!!!!!
Also heard the whole family may soon be at Woodville :)
And I heard that the politics at Southern never change. Hopefully Sturt's pre-trials go well today.
anon 989, Which ones are the best coaches that haven't been told about Southerns trials? Have they expressed their desire to keep coaching? So much speculation and so little answers. Surely you must know the answers...
Who ever but those lies on here about Brenton have got NO idea......YOU should be ashamed!!!!You all are listening to rubbish.
Now if Corey was to marry Ireland and move to Southern, problem solvered.
all centrals news is posted on the kadina website or head office.
Bruce
Years ago
I would think think Norwood would be begging centrals players to prop up their girls program, given nor woods win loss record in 14 and 16 girl this season !! Don't get too excited the best centrals players are moving to west and sturt for family reasons so Norwoods 'local' players won't be affected and they can continue to play div 1 and lose regularly. Check your facts, i hear it is unlikely Nikki ireland is coaching anywhere next season.
Check your own facts Bruce. Nikki has already been announced as Norwood u14 coach. Apparently she was at trials last week, along with quite a few centrals girls.
Don't know who any of Norwood 16 girls coaches are , as of last week they didn't have or appointed anyone in Div 2 or 3......guess the jdo's will have to do it !
068, these appointments are very political so they are keeping it under wraps until closer to the season.
The good ship 'warrior' hit a reef and sank because of a coaching line up designed to send what few players they have, to other clubs.
Anon
Years ago
Rupert Sapwell div 1 coach at Centrals for the under 12 boys......
Yes, that will be his son's team. Centrals Div 1 coaches have been up on their website for a few weeks now.
Centrals had a policy of no coach coaching their own child. Obviously that rule has gone out the window. The same will be happening in another div 1 grade too.
PlaymakerMo
Years ago
Most clubs have that policy, and it's sparingly adhered to. Why? Because clubs need coaches. The policy makes sense, but enforcing it and running out of coaches is just foolish.
ex Lion
Years ago
A good example of why we switched clubs. One rule for one, one for another
Bruce
Years ago
Whatever way you look at it the Sapwell appointment at lions is a further boost for the lions boys program and maybe shows the trinity/lions link is working !! Now with a boys premiership under their belt they won't ever shut up !!
Jack Toft
Years ago
The appointment of Sapwell and Ricky Simpson are very clever moves. Sapwell is the head of sports at Trinity. A school that has 3,000 kids or something like that spread over 5 schools. Simpson runs the courts at Starplex and runs his basketball academy as well.
The experience those two men bring to the table should turn Centrals into the "Sturt of the North"
Jack, I think that's a big call!!
However, for someone that's been involved with basketball for a long time as a coach and now parent of a child playing I find the evolution of Lions basketball to be a unique and fascinating story to observe.
They still seem to have a hell of a long way to go though!!!
Jack Toft
Years ago
Could be a big call, but it's up to them to take advantages of their opportunities
Vesta
Years ago
Yeah, Cause his team got so much better this year.
I find it interesting that so many ex players are only willing to coach when it is their kids involved. And are unwilling to coach other peoples kids.
Jack,
Would Sapwell and Ricky know a girls program exist? Sturt are strong on both sides.
anon
Years ago
best thing good ship did was sail away with old tired crew - look at program and tell if its been successful only "one direction"
new horizon await with eagle on horizon
Woop Woop I'll have what he's ^^^ having please
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