west curious --- out to stir the pot are we?? one coach quitting means an entire club is on the slide?

surely a coaches decision to quit this late in the season, (well you would hope) would be based on carefully considered reasons and not just a reaction to a couple of bad games, personal reasons? work commitments? perhaps said coach has realised an inability to coach present team or cope with pressure of team not performing as expected? who knows?

are you trying to insinuate you know more, if so, post away and start the crap ball rolling that district basketball seems to thrive on!!

It is all too obvious isn't it. They realise they need to make room for someone more talented, like "west curious" perhaps?

oooooh!! ooooh!! ooooh!!!


i know

Sacked coach replaces Quit coach

Here we go again, let the rumours, false truths and bagging begin...

exactly.... west curious...ball in your court

A number of posts here are from the same IP, including the first two and "crap ball rolling" - personality disorder in effect.

one house one ip

sorry entered before finished, one house one computer one ip, different points of view, should hear the arguments going on here some nights lol

magic are in the house surely they will come to rescue -
what has happened with that relationship
bearcats offering much reduced fees to entice

state of basketball is the loser - need to be major overhaul of the sport and active promtionto get kids interested
do clubs do any serious promoting working together

It is always disappointing to see coaches withdraw from coaching as the game needs these volunteers. The average score in U18 girls Div 1 is 48.5 (game score 97.0) and West average score is 50.5 to 49.3. Their yield of 27% win rate is lower than it should be, but they have lost 4 games by less than 5 points (2 scoring shots). As everyone knows, that's the difference between an "ordinary" and a great season.

Looking at the Div 1 girls comp as a complete competition, it is a pretty even competition and every team has its strengths and weaknesses. Sturt are the obvious standouts at the top and their defence of 38.8 ppg is to be expected (no doubt plenty of press defence going on there) Their offensive score is not outstanding, but their average total game score is low indicating that they are scoring on their possessions, but preventing others from scoring. Their average score is 53.7 to 38.8 (92.5 game score).

Centrals are at the foot of that table with an average score of 34.5 to 62.0 with a game score of 96.5 suggesting turnovers being their problem (game score OK, but not enough offensive opportunities), whereas North have the highest game score of 105.4 ppg (average 52.3 to 53.1) indicating a fairly freeflowing game with offensive being the priority (plenty of transition game?). Norwood have the lowest game score of 86.4 (38.9 to 47.6) A good defensive score, but low offensive score indicating that they probably need to work on shot selection or shooting technique to make the most of their possession (ball possession, not demonic possession).

With the average score of most teams pretty close, it just shows how tight the competition is and realistically with most of those girls playing at their clubs since U12, most girls are playing their 16th, or possibly their 20th season of basketball so a high level of basketball is to be expected.

If the coach has quit, we don't currently know the real reason, but if they have quit due to un-necessary grief from parents, it's disappointing.

Jack,

Those stats make no sense, and considering the numbers of players who miss games week to week, they are not really pertinent.

And how you make considerations of shot selection/accuracy from them is meaning less.

Especially in the context of a coach quitting, which would probably have more to do with personalities than results.

Phadreus,
You can actually tell a lot about a team based on their results. If a team relies on one player to be effective, then that team has a real problem. They will be found wanting by clever coaches who will design a game plan to neutralise the benefit of that player.

Each division has an average score and knowing this for the division, there should be a game score. For example, in U18 girls, the sum of both scores is around 97 ppg in total. In U12 girls, the game score is much less.

Each team has the opportunity to have the same number of possessions per game. The same number of possessions means the same scoring opportunities. Watch a game and count the possessions per quarter, they are about the same per team.

Each possession ends in many ways: Goal made; missed shot/defensive rebound/out of bounds; turnover. A foul on, or offensive rebound is just a "pause" in that possession. Instead of lasting 20 secs, the position lasted for 40 secs.

The way a team forces more possessions (for them) per game is to force turnovers, particularly in the backcourt in order that the shot clock is not run down too much. The way a team holds possession is through offensive rebounds. A team that has a low game score can also sometimes have a high foul count as this slows the game game and clogs up scoring opportunities, particularly in a non-fully timed game. A high game score can often mean defensive problems.

For example, a team may have a higher than average game score, but their defensive score is on average, then this means that they are making the most of their possession and scoring well. Either through good shot selection, or good shooting %.

That does not take into account possessions. Which you make an assumprion for as all you are using is overall scores which can have a dramatically different result based on personel in any given week.

A team can have a high score and low possession count due to good execution. Conversely, a team can have a low score but high possession count due to inefficiency in offense. Again you can't say scores relate to something based on assumptions.

It's like assuming that RBI's are a useful stat in baseball, when its not.

What you have done is use a simple stat to show a point which it doesn't anyway. Because it might have more to do with other influences.

Sorry that I have doubted you Jack. It seems like you are saying that the teams who score more compared Ro their opponents are good. And those that only let their opponent score fewer points are good.

I had forgotten that was the underlying principle of the game.

Looking at the draw, with 5 rounds left & one being a bye this coach must have a really good reason to quit this late in the season.

anon 109...why must the brush be brought out at seasons end exactly?

you appear to have an axe to grind with the Girls Coaching Director.. your observations and demands appear baseless in fact

There appears to be a history. Pardon my ignorance, but who is the Girls CD and is that view shared by many?

Unless they have done something stupid, maybe just leave the personal attacks out.

anon 184 why let the truth get in the way of a good story?

Corey was told by the Club to make a choice between North or West. He chose North. Wasn't handled ideally by either the Club OR Corey in the fallout.Been done to death on this forum ad nauseum.

Corey did conduct indies for West kids, but it cost $$ for the kids involved.

Jo Clark is coaching elswhere, so what? Is West the first Club to lose a Coach to another Club?

Some perspective here would help. Continued attacks on Nowak would be justified if the girls program was crumbling, it certainly aint. Just appears to be personal character assassination.

Nowak is the reason behind the improvement in Girls program at west . he and Dennis Jones have done a great job in making all west girls teams move up the ladder in the past 4 years. Great job, just tell the parents to let the kids do the talking on court and leave the coach to coach. and parents to be the parents at HOME...

Get your facts right. HE IS THE JDO at West for the Girls program and has been for 3 or 4 years. Before he came along west Girls struggled in the bottom half of ladders. Start blaming the A COUPLE of parents within 16 & 18 Girls. They should be ashamed. not the JDO.

Get your facts right. HE IS THE JDO at West for the Girls program and has been for 3 or 4 years. Before he came along west Girls struggled in the bottom half of ladders. Start blaming the A COUPLE of parents within 16 & 18 Girls. They should be ashamed. not the JDO.

anon668

boy did you lose all credibility with that statement

thank goodness you aren't making any decisions at my club and just sniping on here.

if someones in the position and doing it well..which is JDO..why do the sniping?

Haven't got any issue with Corey as a Coach..an absolute gun..probably without a doubt the best junior Coach I've ever seen

but the position of JDO for Corey would be a killer, has to get on with EVERYONE in those coaching positions within the Club...thats the only sticking point.

Trying to keep every line of communication open between every Coach within a Club is not easy..even the ones you don't particularly get on with.

Don't envy JDO's one bit, hours of work and sticking your neck out for critisism on here

"Best junior you have seen". Mate you need to get out more.

anon 199

not all...thats the difficulty of the job..still work with everybody regardless

at all Clubs I suspect...big hours..no pay..trying your best

He is not the Messiah, but tells people that he is and like a politician, if you tell people the same thing enough times (how good you are), some will actually believe you and forget all of the previous 'indiscretions'.
Great coach for kids and very popular, but carries some "baggage" which becomes tiresome
Would be great to see Corey back at West, but please don't expect everybody to wear kneepads to come crawling!

To all of the stirrers on this thread trying to discredit West, can one of you please explain why Corey is not at the club of "HIS" choice- North ABA?.
Please don't come on accusing West for being the "bad guys" when he began the ABA Season as North assistant coach.
What happened? Are North and West the onl 2 parties that were wrong?
Let's be fair and stop sniping at people trying to do the best things for the clubs they love and devote hours of time and stress for stuff all payment or glory!

C'Mon Isaac - Close this Thread!

U couldnt post that shot quick enough. Its a pity some people worry more about having a dig than the kids who are playing.