South aren't great - no bigs! The coach is confident... He's too busy trying to make himself look good

South have athleticism, confidence and have some kids who can go, Robetaeu, the White boys as well as a little 3 point shooter who is like Jason Ralph from the 18s who is under Shane Heal in qld now

Country girls off to a good start with a 39 point win over ACT .

Country boys down by 12 to OLD nth after being in control for most of the game. Some bad shots & turnovers in the last 5 minutes cost them the game.

Qld south team women downed Vic Metro last night , how dare they ....

SA metro girls thrashed WA country 112 to 46!

SA Country girls down by 19 to Vic Metro. Had their chances, played the game with
only 8 players due to sickness.

Here come the excuses by SA Country!

Queensland have spent a lot of time and effort to rebuild their junior development program. The current results of the Qld South teams is just the start.

Meanwhile SA Metro continue to employ the same program run by the same underperforming staff and recycle the same under achieving coaches.

Resulting in the SA Metro boys just losing to New Zealand. How low to we have to fall before BSA will actually action some changes?

Anon 666. What are some of the changes you would like to see implemented to benefit SA basketball?

SA Country boys down by 8 to Vic Country.

Ariel look who they've played.

Why would you make changes ? Protected positions and program

The girls are not performing Ariel my dear, the girls comp would be at the lowest standard in a decade where two or three sides are well matched and the others impossibly bad hence some of the scorelines. Metro had it's first test tonight and had its score doubled but bashed had previously the helpless Tassie and the hopeless Western country lasses. ACt and NT together couldn't beat an U12 boys district team and the vics are average in both the 16 and 18 girls age groups.

The standard here is deplorable at district level across the age groups in girls and Qld and NSW are light years ahead, because my dear, they improved their program, not sat on their hands and stayed with yesterday's song and dance team for mutes. No one to blame but the guru's who can do no wrong or bloody right, mores the pity.

One game does not a tournament make?

What is it exactly that MAW and QLD have done so differently?

Does anyone know?

Change your coaches! Change the culture. Queensland South are enthusiastic, they enjoy playing basketball & the program head coach is on a mission to make it better! Look outside the Sturt & Forestville drones who have acted like zombies for the past decade! I would love to see the passion of David Spear or Mike Makay, who would draw blood for this state! We are a strong basketball State with a great tradition. Change or drown!

Both have been asked and neither wanted the head coaching job.

Offer the positions nationally and see who puts there hand up and how they would run our programs.

Which positions are you talking about?

If it the coaching positions it is advertised. If it is the head coach you cant advertise nationally without removing the incumbert, which you need a reason to do without summering from a wrongful dismissal suit.

Are we talking U16's or are we talking bigger picture - i.e. development of kids before they are handed over to the state coaches for nationals.

For longer term benefit it has to be the latter - maybe that is why some of the larger clubs are thinking how they can do that job better between themselves!

Metro girls belted last night by a cricket score against NSW Metro. Country boys down 9 to Tassie, Metro boys down by 7 to QLD South today. Metro girls to play now & Country girls after that.

Everyone! Don't let the truth get in the way of a good random story, by anonymous posters in a public forum. Now you may continue this humerous debate.

Anon845, the only humour is your use of the language and disrespect for spelling, you must work for BSA with those skills.

It appears the Glidden program for Girls is again showing its true colours... just another failure..
but the blame will go on the girls.. again

You mean the program that has won a medal in under 16s or under 18s in each of the previous 4 years.

Won medals but meant nothing

vic anon,

You do know that the states have been split for over 20 years.

Not sure when you get the 'constant splitting of states into metro/country or north/south'

When will SA wake up ! TIME FOR CHANGE...

SASSI and State Girls program, and i agree with post 370067

Yes

From one anon to another, maybe playing off where metro and country girls are they shouldn't have been at the nationals in the first place.
It's not a tired program it's asleep.

Yes you are dumb. SA metro playing for 5th, SA country playing for 7th

Country boys win (11th) - 1 better than last year. Metro boys win (9th) - 4 spots off last year. Country girls lose (8th)- 2 better than last year. Metro girls win (5th) - 4 better than last year. Thoughts????

Congratulation to the SAM U16 Boys for winning all the games that did not matter.

Did that feel good Anon 283? What a pathetic snipe.

Vic Metro were just bigger but the skills were not as good as SA and NSW. Shooting % crap

Lucky for VIc they have big numbers to choose from. The NITP program just picks big kids but clearly teaching skills such as shooting are lacking. Same kids get all the focus just like the failed AIS program

We need to see the State programs overhauled with less funds going toward the development of few and more time going into development of sustainable programs.

There are kids in NITP that have been there for 5 years and whilst they are good kids, how far will they go and should the tax payers money continue to fund the development of a few. Surely this money would be better spent improving coaching for the majority and leaving schools to pick elite. This works in NSW whereby once they get to 18 and 20 and body size evens out, the skill level is far superior and they kick everyone!

Time for govt review of funding as we can not continue to put over $4m into elite development of the same kids for their entire junior campaign, when reality shows that you can not tell how good these kids will be until they have matured. Thank god the AIS have finally realized this!

You do realise Australia just won a silver medal at a Junior World championship don't you. Kind of puts your ramblings into perspective.

Elite development will always involve subjective selection.

As a parent from the Gliddon regime, he did an excellent job for my daughter, trainings, individuals, extra help and we didnt pay a cent. Not everyone is going to reach the top, but you want them to achieve their best whatever that may be. As for teams not performing at nationals, sometimes they don't gel and we do have a small talent pool compared to other states. Well done kids no matter where you finished, you are our top players and you should be proud.

Is that why new metro have won the last three u18 titles?

316, "leaving schools to pick elite", a rather peculiar statement. It doesn't make sense in isolation and isn't backed up by anymore information to reinforce your point and how this would happen.

So we won a silver at the juniors. The senior mens team has not progressed much in the last 40 years in international standards. In fact they have lost their only 2 Oceania Qualifying events during this time.

Good athletes with good coaching at club level will do just as well as those we are spending all this tax payer grants on.

We have a struggling health, welfare and education system and putting money into the development of so called elite athletes in the current manner at least for mens basketball is not providing dividend.

Maybe an ex premier can put a better spin on now she heads up BA

Vic are best at 16s Can they carry through to 18 and 20? Qld South and Tassie are both doing well

Vic are best at 16s Can they carry through to 18 and 20? Qld South and Tassie are both doing well

To suggets the a World Junior Championship silver medal is meaningless renders your argument meaningless. If we are getting those results it is incredible. And this is where the AIS is targeting athletes and is in fact a worlds best standard.

Senior success is actually more difficult now as Yugoslavia is now 3 different countries that are all stong in basketball. And the USSR has changed into serveral different countries all of whom can have basketball success.

And our women have won the World Championship when 10 years ago we didnt even qualify, so that is actually a big change.

#370352

let's see who coaches NSW Metro 18s now that the talent dropped away

The only team that didn't play as team was SA Metro Girls.
The only team that had not team and NO coach relationship on and off the court with his players was SA Metro.
GET RID OF THE UNSUCCESSFUL MISERABLE REGIME, Gliddon..

Those SA Metro kids ( Girls ) were pretty good. They had no height and played very hard all week. Sometimes you have these years but the kids don't go there to be bad, they tried hard as did the coach

I wouldn't worry so much about the girls coach. How about the boys coach?

#370546 -I bet you are the typical arm chair critic who hides in forums pot shotting people.

Q: What have you done to contribute to the sport?
Q: Is your club doing anything to help promote players to the next level?

The real issue is the quality of players that come through from most clubs that State coaches have to choose from. I don't think Gliddon’s regime is weaker, the clubs are now dysfunctional committees that have no structure in place to develop players to play at the next level.

String local competition leads to a stronger pool of players to choose from.

We have done nothing to right the ship in the last 10 years and are now suffering the consequences.

Clubs need to take some responsibility and stop the blame game. Either put up or shut up.

The metro Girls did do a fair effort and of course did there best when on court. The fact they werent supported by the coach or given any confidence from the coach is what im on about. Trust me i was there..
maybe theres some substance from 370546.

I dont think hes mentioned anything about district teams, just structure and coach support...

Sure we will trust you. You were in the time outs. The pre games. The post games.

You were obviously there watching you kid and could easily have an axe to grind.

I was there too and I am not from SA. I saw them work very well vs Vic Country and I think we need to give credit to the head coach and the players

The district girls program is shot. Weak and broken clubs like Woodville and souths etal bleed the ability of the game to be competitive which makes the stronger clubs think their players are fantastic because they thrash trash weekly. The elite program is also on the nose because it is out dated and out of touch. BSA need to trim the district clubs to six and Tighten control so that wins are merited against competitive teams weekly which will transfer to better national results.

I vote for more people to get involved in club programs and grow our resources at club level, rather than anonymous people coming on here and bagging 14/15 yr old girls or the volunteers that coach them.

Sheesh, it aint rocket science!

*NSW Metro Boys lose to NSW Country by 2 in overtime. Consecutive 2 point losses in overtime in fact for the Metro Boys. Finish 8th - poorest result for a long time?*

IMO the coach lost both these games(NZ & NSW C) and was seen being a smart arse about playing for 7/8.....If he has any pride he should coached them to a better position with the talent and height he had, he should've been top 4.
Average coach with good side, shouldnt get a gig next year.

No ones bagging the volunteers, i think it the paid guy

Not to rain on anyones parade, but Vic Country boys were off their game by about 20% in the game against SA Country after a huge effort against NSW Metro in a late second game the night before.

Just sayin'

hogwash, are you the parent that has pulled out every trick in the book to promote your child?

Because only second rate athletes play basketball when they can't score a gig in the main game populations win out not thru development just numbers.

*NSW Metro Boys lose to NSW Country by 2 in overtime. Consecutive 2 point losses in overtime in fact for the Metro Boys. Finish 8th - poorest result for a long time?*

IMO the coach lost both these games(NZ & NSW C) and was seen being a smart arse about playing for 7/8.....If he has any pride he should coached them to a better position with the talent and height he had, he should've been top 4.
Average coach with good side, shouldnt get a gig next year.



Anonymous, isn't that the same coach who won a gold medal his first time around then a bronze the year after? IMO I agree he probably should have finished higher however the coach can not put the ball in the basket. I was there watching both boys and girls and from what I was told the NSW Metro coach is close to the youngest coach at nationals and has achieved in a few years what most coaches (probably yourself included) have not achieved.

Maybe you should start supporting up and coming coaches and not discouraging them.

unforetunately the coach in question
Sam who also works for BNSW has not been reappointed

They have put in a younger coach from Penrith who has only coached in u/14s at rep level & had 1 year as an A/C to Watkins last year.

B4 you all say thanks sam, this is not him. I dont think hes the greatest coach and definately think he stuffed up this year but definately think he got a raw deal, he won medals the previous 2 years and now cant get a gig not even as a sc. strange.

BNSW has gone for 2 young coacohes with the metro groups in 16s, opposite to country who have chosen 2 older coaches who havent been involved for a few years. could be an interesting year for NSW all round.

I did not know he has not been re appointed.

Who is selecting the sc? Because surely if Sam has won two medals why would he not get given another opportunity? Is this coach they have selected better than him?

Either way like you said it will be very interesting to see how NSW go. I have herd Vic M will not be as talented as previous years