if you are worried about woodville - do not go to a centrals or southern women's game.

and that woodvile line up is one of the better ones over the last 5 years

what people should be doing is not trying to change the refs but try to understand where they are coming from and adjust accordingly

the sturt girls seemed a little out of synch with no monique or laura - but then they need to adjust as well

anonymous - 'This game may have been particularly bad, but what are you expecting out of women's basketball?

I've seen a few women's games this year which has helped cure my insomnia.'

How bout we give girls basketball a break - why don't we start focusing on the actual skill level and tactics involved in womens basketball due to the lack of athletic ability that men have and focus less on watching the games because of the uniforms women wear and how they look.
Perhaps if basa funded an acadamy for the girls like they have for the boys it might help.

Anonymous (es) I might sound like a poor loser but at least my head's out of my arse. My impression was that the game was played in accordance with the refereeing standard. You referee according to jungle ball rules and you get jungle ball. From a parent's point of view it was clearly not just a player skill issue.

On the plus side the standard of officiating certainly helped us lose by less!!!!!

Give us a break, anonymous! At least if you're gonna sit here and sledge Woodville put a name on your post.
You have no idea what goes on in that Woodville side, you know nothing about the coaches or how hard the girls work. If Lynne was such a bad coach, why have her 20 men just won summer season and Norwood carnival? And have been quite successful in the past? The girls know they're not top shit, they play their hardest though and they are improving. They don't have the same funding other clubs do, they don't get WNBL players like North, Forestville, etc., so they're not doing that bad.
So please, anonymous, since you don't know what you're talking about, keep your sledging to yourself.

This thread is titled "So Called Elite Women's Basketball in SA", hence when I spoke of funding, I meant the women's side.

I agree with 'Unbelievable'. If there is such a lack of skill in women's basketball why wasn't a women's academy created? Unless of course the women are pushing shit up hill from day one in SA basketball.

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disgruntled with Lynne perhaps sunshine.

what did she pass you over or did she not put up with your theatrics?

so easy to sledge from behind a keyboard

if you have such grief take it to the committee in writing with a name too it or speak to the

John Marshman - president
Barb Breavington - secretary
Helen Gleeson - vice president

i'm sure they would be happy to listen to your gripe

however i feel you wouldn't like to be pro active but sit behind your keyboard and malign people at will.

Good call fly. There was also a benchie guard who got a bit more time this game, called Sarah Chapel for Sturt. She didn't score as heavily as the Bowleys but she seemed to play a pretty resonable game. Don't know her stats but she looked pretty competent both ends of the court. Thought for a small she was pretty tough on the rebounds too. Be interesting to see.

Anonymous you ain't coming across too well. It certainly looks like you have more than a gripe against the club. We, like all clubs have avenues for complaint - take the tip from 'hey gutless' and go for it in a more public forum.

I think we like Sturt deserve some credit for trying to develop our female juniors in the ABA. Are there any other female ABA sides with the same percentage of home grown juniors playing?

Anonymous, would you like a copy on a WNBA game, I have plenty if you'd like to have a look at the difference of play between it and WNBL??? Maybe while you are watching admittedly the best talent in the world you can also look around at the obvious difference in support that these woman are given and also the money from the NBA 'brother' clubs that are pumped into these teams! Also have a look at how physical the games are and how massive these woman are as oppossed to the WNBL where we are rather disadvantaged on height.

My point here is, it's a different style of play. Yes the same game but much more physical and aggressive. Therefore I feel you in particular should be happy by how many of these Australian woman, who supposedly have the talent of under 16 y/o boys, have been picked up by WNBA teams for the 2005 season and are garaunteed starting spots and spots in training camps. And the number increases each year so you can't even sit there and say they are the exception to the rule.

Also, i'd pay tickets for you to go up to Lauren Jackson and tell her that women playing in the WNBL have the skill level of under 16 state boys and i'm sure many other people on here would too!

Sorry if i'm off track here but the anonymous post i'm sure you all know I am talking about stated all womans basketball, except the olympics and WNBA is lacking in skill. This then leads me to pose this question??? Do you watch any woman's basketball at all??? like i said. i'll send you those tapes and maybe even some pictures i got of the sold out womans basketball games I saw in Spain which were far more exciting and higher in skill than the male game i saw later that night...

Are there many promising juniors coming up for Woodville's ABL women's team? The men's side appears to have survived an absolute gutting between seasons to play competitive basketball recently.

Sara Chapple had 10 points (3/11 shooting) and 10 boards (8 off, 2 def)

Thanks Yogee. My impression was reasonably accurate then. If she'd got Marino's minutes I wonder what she would have done?

Sarah actually played 29:01, Marino played 36:36

Sara, not Sarah :). When are you sending Isaac the HTML version of the stats Yogee?

Hey Yogee, good to see you bak....where ya been?

does sarah chappel do weights? - she has a better physique than me

awesome !

Back when Jae Kingi, Jo Hill, Rachael Sporn and co were in peak form, I would rather watch a women's game than a men's game.

Women keep it simple, yes it is because they generally are physically not capable of all the athletic stuff, but if you think it applies to all females, check out an old video of Joe Hill playing or catch Erin Phillips out on the court.

That old Lightning team with Jae, Rachael, Jo, etc was a perfect example of keeping the game basic and playing with your brain, something a lot of people have forgotten to do.

Women's basketball has its place, it is pure basketball, not "The Show" that men's basketball has become in the States or what it is trying to become here.

Lynne Holland would be one of the best boy's coaches around - as for her skills with women - they can be questioned.
Woodville does not put any money into women's basketball and are only there because the men could not play if Woodville did not have a women's team. Perhaps people like John Marshman should listen to people and split the money a bit more evenly. Woodville cannot attract any good players because they dont pay like the other clubs. The girls (apart from a couple) do not even get petrol money. No other coaches have applied for the position in years. If BASA are truly interested in make the competition more equitable then maybe they should introduce a system that recruited name players are designated to particular clubs.

Teams either pay players to join them or have developed those players as juniors. In the latter case, why should they be penalised for their success?

Someone asked further up in this thread whether there were many promising young Woodville players coming into the womens team in the near future -- no response?

Woodville under 16 Div 1 girls now have 5 girls in SASI with 2 of them having a scholarship for a year.
And as for there coach Lynne Holland she is the best out there and also an under 18 girls assitant state coach and a SASI coach. In about 4 years Woodville will be the team to beat in the womens comp, lots of skilled players coming up from under 16 Div 1 girls. Plus there doing very well considering they only have 2 second year players and Lynne has had these girls since summer and has worked extremely hard for them to be where they are now. There thrid on the ladder by the way! Now the under 16 Div 2 girls are also third who drew to Norwood (who are top) and lost by a point to North. Taya and Lynne have worked extremely hard with these girls and the girls all love them and are very thankful for all there help.

I wouldn't get carried away with yor 16s. At least you have your kids playing in the right grade unlike your under 10 girls last season. I agree that clubs that stack their teams with paid players are not showing development of their juniors, but clubs should not be disadvantaged because they have more than 1 wnbl player especially if they are born and bred in that club. Sturt would be an example of this. Most of, in fact possible all are their own kids. Why should they be penalised for this? Yes Lynne is a good coach.

Woodville have 2 girls in the under 16 state team. LYNNE HOLLAND is the most dedicated coach I have ever seen. She does 2 trainings with U16 1&2 girls, 2 trainings with U20 Men, 2 trainings with the women plus their games plus State training and SASI training all in a week. Plus she is the J.D.O for under 16-18 girls and boys and under 20-21 men and women plus she looks after the division 2,3,4 and 5 senior women.

By the rules the under 10's were in the right age group for summer.For winter the girls went up to under 12 as the rules changed. Now the under 10 Div 1 are second and Div 2 are first.