C- Luke Nevill
PF- Adam Ballinger
SF- Anthony Petrie
SG- Cedric Jackson (C)
PG- Adam Gibson

BEN- Drew Williamson
BEN- Daryl Corletto
BEN- Todd Blanchfield

IR- Jamar Wilson
IR- Alex loughton

Happy to trade Mills

any offers???

Hahaha..

Did the dream team not have the games played this round results
this week? Or was that just me not clicking on the right link?

Just in time, BJF - looks like we're head-to-head this weekend. You couldn't convince him to play one more round?

BJF loses Mills the week he plays double Khazzouh.
That's just not fair.

Round 7 results

Ox 300 lost to Pure Silk 324
Isaac 234 lost to alexkrad 258
Flinders80 245 defeated hendo8888 149
BJF 421 defeated clarky 125

Full details emailed out soon.

Pathetic is probably the word for that score.
Time to start making some moves I think.

Keen to continue negotiations for Holmes etc.

Hendo obviously i need to cover Mills so am happy to have Holmes included in some sought of deal

Anyone you like

Abercrombie + 1 ??

Probably dreaming, but would you do Simpson and Abercrombie for Hudson and Holmes.

Just realised I have 4 players on holidays this round

Any interest in Campbell, Martin or even Glover?

Hendo, I am keen for Crosswhite but dont think i can afford to have another player on holidays this week.

For Weigh?

The Ladder

RANK TEAM % P
1 BJF 168.0% 12
2 Flinders80 110.1% 10
3 Ox 102.7% 8
4 alexkrad 94.6% 8
5 Pure Silk 87.2% 6
6 Isaac 118.2% 4
7 hendo8888 87.8% 4
8 clarky 64.3% 4

Second best on percentage, but that's worth nothing!

C Khazzouh (C)
F Greer
F Mims
F/G Dorsey
F/G Bose

G Cooper
C Vanderjagt
F/G Cedar

F Forman
F Gruber

Did you play Bose last week Isaac?

Yeah, I did and he had 8/3/1 but average shooting knocked that down to a zero. Dream Team scoring is rough if you have an off shooting night.

@hendo

Abercrombie straight for Weigh?

Yeah, I started him as well....bugger.

I don't have Weigh... Yet.

Maybe - not this week though and would also like to add one of my hawks for someone to sweeten the deal? Actually depending who you offer I might consider it this week....

cant believe i missed that Loughton played a double last week, left him on the IR and it cost me the game... I didnt understand what you meant about not rating him hendo, it all makes sense now!!

So... Holmes and Wilkinson deal any closer? I dont think Ill get a fair trade for Ballinger at the moment. Loughton/Wilson are up for grabs though. I did see Holmes injure his ankle in the GCB game though, made me put a red astericks next to his name

Throw some ideas at me Alex. What would get it over the line this week?

hendo- Wilson/Loughton for Wilkinson and someone. The deal gives you the 1 less fwd star thatll give you an instant 15-20pt increase each week. Wilsons scores of late are as good as anyones...

How good does this someone need to be? Ie list who you'd accept.

Well you want a fwd gone, not a guard.
Wilkinson and Wilson have similar avg currently. It scares me that wilsons trend is currently upwards, and wilkinson, who has been here for some time, is creeping lower.

Loughton has shown on the weekend that a 30pt per game avg is more than achievable, which is what he is worth, and Holmes is currently showing that 30+ avg, although he has the Schensher factor coming in a fortnight or so.

This also gets you your high scoring Guard for a fwd that you were talking about, so your not wasting big scores on the bench each week. so I think its reasonable.

My team for this week is

Burston
Knight
Dillon
Gill
Warren (Captain )

Bench
Creek
Rush
Allen

DNP
Dusty
Grabau

Problem is, I prefer Abercrombie over Loughton and Wilkinson over Wilson.
So at this stage, your offer is losing.
That, and Loughton and Wilson both have byes this week, whereas Wilkinson and Abercrombie don't all year. I already have Saville and Crosswhite with byes this week, and I'm 2 and 5, so can't afford to throw away any more games.

ok, thats fair enough.

Saville and wilkinson?

That gives you holmes still to chase abercrombie...

ill pick up luke martin, dropping drew williamson.

UPDATED
C- Luke Nevill
PF- Adam Ballinger
SF- Anthony Petrie
SG- Cedric Jackson (C)
PG- Adam Gibson

BEN- Luke Martin
BEN- Daryl Corletto
BEN- Todd Blanchfield

IR- Jamar Wilson
IR- Alex loughton

Isaac, just looking at your team, which Cedar do you have?
We have half the same players in different leagues.

M Cedar.

Hendo, get another guard. I keep coming up with the second player being C/F for a G. Which leaves me down on the guard stocks.

Have 4 players on holidays, Helliwell is likely to get a donut and Cadee is worth maybe 10. Gonna need Grant to get a couple 40 point games like last week to get me the win I think.


C - GRANT, Jerai (C)
F - REDHAGE, Shawn
F - TOVEY, Cameron
G - WEIGH, Stephen
G - CADEE, Jason

B - HELLIWELL, Wade
B - MARTIN, Rhys
B - HILL, Brad

DNP - CAMPBELL, Mat
DNP - GLOVER, Showron

Any news on Aaron Bruce's injury fellow fantasy hoopers?

Saville is my Ballinger. Forget his average, he's worth more than that. He was my second pick afterall.
I still rate Wilkinson above Wilson. If you are worried about that part due to the recent dip in scores, then we might aswell take them out of the deal as my values of the players differs a fair bit to yours.
You seem to dismiss Holmes' average completely, then expect full value for Loughton on the back of a couple somewhat ok scores. (which were still a good amount less than Holmes has been scoring). Same deal with Ballinger.
I can't really see a trade happening here, our views on players are too far apart.
Wilkinson is my captain. Wilson won't be.
Saville will get it together at some point (much like Ballinger). His ceiling is higher than Loughton's.

Might look at this with Hudson, but not Wilkinson.

Any more ideas Alex on our trade?
Would you do Weigh and Glover for Hudson and Harvey?

IMO, Holmes might even improve a bit with Schenscher back. He'll force fewer shots and make the points back with assists. Luke loves him as a passer.

Some talk of Ballinger carrying a bit of an injury but to me the change in his game looks mental. He still looks physically capable and doesn't seem particularly unfit. I, too, thought he'd break out, but that was before last game. Might be hard for him to return to past form if so much focus is on Johnson, Simpson and Weigh.

just because you drafted him 2nd overall you want him to be worth more? Loughtons 58 is 1point per game less than holmes 30, i wouldnt call that a "good amount less".

Didnt dismiss Holmes avg at all mate, his avg is very impressive, I had several concerns over issues with him, thats all, which is why i took him out for saville.

Statistically, that last trade gave you a 8-10pt per round advantage, on top of your positional changes, which would have helped you another 15pts a game. I cant offer any more than that.

That's basically what I call selective statistics.
Take Loughton's best score for the year (easily). Take Holmes' worst for 6 weeks. Put them together and suddenly 2 players averaging 15 different are within 1 point.
Yet somehow, Saville's true worth is ignored. But I need to respect Ballinger's true worth and understand that Loughton isn't playing his best at the moment.
Using your convoluted formula, suddenly I'm gaining 8-10 points per game.

C/F DOWDELL, Jeff
F WORTHINGTON, Mark
F/G CRAWFORD, Peter
G LISCH, Kevin * (Captain)
G ROBBINS, Brad

F WAGSTAFF, Jesse
G BRUTON, CJ
F ANTHONY, BJ

Trading Block for me
CJ Bruton
Brad Robbins
Joevan Coetron
Jeff Dowdell
BJ Anthony

well it doesnt look like youll settle for anything other than a steal in your favour. Problem is, there are 2 people in a trade, both wanting a benefit.

Nevermind, my team is going along nicely, so im happy to stay as is.

Probably deserved that. Had a shit day with work and other things, looks like I used here to vent. Now that I've cooled off a bit, I see I was being an asshole.
I'm not trying to rip you off, just don't like the offers and our ratings of players are different.
Problem for me with the trade is more personnel than your offers.
I rate Wilkinson over Wilson and don't really want to trade him at all unless I get a beneficial offer. I rate Saville highly. No way that I'd trade him for his current average. I rate Loughton, but saying he and Wilson are 8-10 points better than Saville and Wilkinson is just plain wrong in my opinion. Saville is also my only starter quality guard at the moment, so trading him kind of defeats the purpose of the trade.
Happy to just walk away here, isn't going to work when Wilkinson is involved.
I assume by me taking out Wilkinson and using Hudson instead, this trade probably would still struggle?

Looking at my other pending deals:
With BJF, we are currently stalled at Abercrombie and ? for Holmes and ?
Or possibly straight swap? (actually warming to this, but would like to explore other options)

With alexkrad, we are looking at Weigh and ? for Crosswhite and ?
I've also offered Weigh and Glover for Hudson and Harvey (could also possibly be Madgen, Walker etc if that's preferred).
Also interested in hearing any ideas you may have (even ones that don't involve guards if that be the case.

Weigh & Glover for Hudson & Harvey isnt going to work.

Is there anyway we can get Wilkinson involved?

It's possible, but I'm not sure how it would work.
Losing Wilkinson means I'd either have to get Grant, or Crosswhite couldn't be involved.

Hudson doesn't have a bye until the end of the year, so depending on the deal, I might consider trading both.

So much talk, so few trades.

With doubts over Burston's hammy I am putting him to the bench and new team is

Knight
Rush
Dillon
Gill
Warren( captain )

bench
Creek
Burston
Allen

DNP
Grabau
Dusty

Team for this round at this stage:

Wilkinson
Hudson Holmes
Madgen (C) Harvey

Herbert
Walker
Dann

(Thing of beauty isn't it :) )

Cut off is 5pm today.

If Grant is involved I will need 2 C capable players.

I dont think this will get over the line before 5 as I probably wont get back here before then.

How long have you got?

ill throw luke nevills name into the mix. possibly anthony petrie too, but his value is higher. Both centres

Assuming BJF isn't interested in Holmes for Abercrombie anymore?

Skip, I would like to DROP Alex Gynes and ADD Kevin Ratzsch.

STARTERS
C - Alex Pledger
F - Mika Vukona
F - Kevin Ratzsch (C)
G - Adris Deleon
G - Aaron Bruce

BENCH
Dillon Boucher
Chris Goulding
Tyson Demos

INACTIVE
Larry Davidson
Damian Martin

Had a feeling you'd do that Clarky.
Was hoping to beat you to it by getting Glover.

Had to do something, my team has pretty much flat lined since Damian Martin went down. I didn't realise just how much I relied on his scoring to carry my team!

With Gynes out for about 2 weeks with an ankle injury and Sydney having 2 games this week, it was a simple choice to grab Ratzsch (especially because I was running with 1 import).

Still open to any trades, even if they just provide a slight upgrade, or just added flexibility to my lineup.

Might change my captain from Ratzsch to Deleon if possible.
I have a feeling he is going to have a big game against the "defense" of the Sixers....

only changes are around Mills

Abercrombie
Ubaka
Simpson Capt
Tragardh
Johnson

Crosswell
Ng
Hoare

Schensch
Mills

@Hendo
Mills leaving depletes my guard stocks so I can at least run TA at the G spot

Yeah, looks like you are a bit light on for guards at the moment too.
Turns out I'm better off using Holmes as a forward this week anyway, so I can wait until next week to find a replacement.

1/4 time scores

Ox 130 v Flinders80 64
Isaac 34 v BJF 44
alexkrad 0 V clarky 39
Pure Silk 15 v hendo8888 68

Scored above my average already and I still have a game for Madgen, Hudson, Harvey, Herbert and Dann to come.

Grant on the double and captain.. might just win me the game with effectively only 4 players!

Hope he has another monster game on Sunday, just not good enough to beat the Wildcats though.

Priorities - FNBL or NBL? haha

GRANT!