All 10 clubs represented apart from South and Woodville.

Woodville 12 boys were runner-up at State Champs but have missed the finals. Likewise Norwood 16 Girls.

and of course we will get our stats room analysis once this rounds results are confirmed .......

forestvilles under 18 boys blew their shot at playoffs last week, no way sturt will lose to south

Sturt would be 12/12.

And 14/14 including ABA teams.

And straight set exits for both Sturt league teams Dirty. The vicarious life of a Sturt parent.

Anyone else 14/14?

Ohh Anon, We have been hearing things are up at Southern for how long and nothing ever happens. Firstly 14 boys had one state player not there and their best player went down in the 3rd. We will see what they do to you in the finals... 18 Girls were missing their best kid and 2 others and we all know Boti's record in finals where games actually count.. and 18 boys I will give you but to say they are lucky is just a silly comment. 16 Girls gave a fright? .... You still lost. What goes up must come down, highly unlikely with the squads coming through.

"what goes up must come down" - people have been saying that about Sturt as long as I've been running this forum, as though it's something to scare them. In truth, I think you're just encouraging them.

Lol anon #327668,

In the U18 girls Boti has a 20 - 0 record against that team in meaningless games since U12's. I think they like keeping him interested. Last I checked, Sturt won State Champs, when it really matters, we will see what happends in the finals.

In U14 Boys, Sturt were missing 2 of their best 3 kids. And their other kid got injured. Again they won at State champs. We will see come finals again.

Did you know that Southern won Overall Champion Club in 1998.

And anon #327672,

Sturt had their best year to date at State Champs winning all 6 overall trophies. That is an improvement over the last few years. West aren't doing so well. 18 Boys 3rd, 16 Boys 4th, 14 boys 3rd and their 12 Boys didnt win a game at State Champs and haven't all season. And none made top 8 at classics, with the U18's losing to Sturt in the 9/10 playoff. And their U23 team is dead last as well.

Not sure how that computes to being superior.

appologies anon, I actually agree with you. I guess old habbits die hard. I suppose that part of their history went out like all the rest.

NCT won and Southern just claim each year to be "on the rise"

Really

Hows this for a Southern fact!

In the most recent Division 1 head to head meetings of Southern with the 9 other district Clubs (Under 10 - 23)which means 12 games. We have only been beaten by one Club Sturt (4 - 8).

By me reckoning that puts us pretty much 2nd in this State and looks like we have already risen!

Tiger,

How does that make you the second best club in the state? Your bad teams are awful.

We have a state champs for juniors. And you werent very good there. Both 16 and 18 boys missed out when it mattered.

Anybody canwin a couple of games when it doesn't matter.

We have all heard this from tigers like you for the last 5 years without any real results to back it up when it matters.

Tiger has simply proven the old adage that statistics can be used to back up anything.

Southern may or may not be on the rise, but second in the state? Not even close.

You aren't making much sence there buddy. Sarcasm doesn't work without inflection.

Southern will never ever get the results of Noarlunga. Should never merged with the Southern Scrubbers.

So tedious

Really

I agree our bad teams are awfull just like any other Club. But I am only talking Division 1 here.

State Championships is a long time ago and can be decided by as much as a bad draw then anything else.

So tell me when a Club plays another Club and puts all of there teams against the other Club in a head to head isn't the result a true reflection of which Club has the stronger program.

No not really,

On any given week teams can be missing players due to reasons other than injury. ie School tips.This can sway meaningless games. Not too many players miss State Champs outside of injuries.

What matters is winning when it counts, at State Champs, or finals. Basketball in a tournament sport. ie Olympics/World/State etc. To win you have to beat everyone. So saying a draw is the difference is a cop out.

Something we have all come to expect from Southern. Win when it matters, or do bother winning at all.

Really

You are so full of it

Typical Sturt maggot, be a pleasure spanking sturt in the finals

Maggot isn't gutter talk

Dont choke on your plum

anon 737

you're probably some hanger on that sits on the bench aren't you!

will enjoy hearing the excuses when we beat you in the finals.

i am sure they will be coming think and fast.

like my gutter mouth will be telling you where to go on your way out the stadium

I can't wait for Sturt 18 Boys to smash Southern in the first week of finals.

Sturt have already won it by forfeit! so chickens are counted

cluck, cluck!!

We all know Div 1 is the one the JDOs talk about, but what about Division 2:

While ladder positions in Div 1 are pretty firm, in a couple of grades in Div 2, it's down to the last round.

U12B: Norwood; Forestville; Sturt 1; Sturt 2
U14B: Sturt 2, Norw Blu; South; Norw Red --- Sturt 1, North

Teams 4,5 & 6 are all on same points. North have a home game to Norwood Red at Mars (WTF?) and this will be crucial.

U16B: Sturt 2; Sturt 1; For Gold; For Blue --- Norwood

Teams 4 and 5 on same points. For Blue play Sturt 2 and Norwood play South

U18B: For Gold; Sturt 1; Sturt 2; Norwood
U12G: For Blue; For Gold; West; Sturt
U14G: For Blue; Sturt 2; For Gold; Mavs --- Norwood

Mavs have a tight game against West, Norwood against South

U16G: Nor Red; Sturt 1; For Gold; Tigers --- Sturt 2

Tigers need to beat, or draw, against Centrals, Sturt 2 vs For Blue

U18G: Tigers, Nor Blue; North Red; Sturt 1

Once again, well done to all teams who have made finals.

nobs is actually I do believe a term for rich people or the well to do maybe you have the gutter mouth believing he/she was calling them knobs.

Thats 12/15 for Sturt in Div 2.

Can any other club beat that?

Well according to "Really" it is irrelevent unless you win the grade.

So we will have to wait to see if anyone can beat that.

Might not be as easy as you think given Sturt would only be favorites to win in Under 16 & 23 Boys. (Div 1)

Not quiet a super club after all.

Tiger,

Saying 12/15 teams in finals for Div 2 isn't like saying that Sturt is the best Div 2 club based purely on those results. (That was decided when we won Reserves Boys, Girls and Overall Club trophies at State Champs)

It is asking if other clubs can match that.

Looking at Jacks post. Southern have 0 boys teams in reserves finals and 2 or maybe 1 girls teams in finals. Hardly the results I would expect from the 2nd best club in the State.

Tiger, Sturt would also be HUGE favourites in 14 Boys. Let's not get ahead of yourself there, champ.

Sturt v Tigers Finals would be

Div 1

U14 Boys
U18 Boys

Div 2

None.

Both and none. Just Sturt

dont get intimidated by them, give them as good as they give and watch them crumble like cookies.

Cause that has been happening. lol.

Sturt. Sturt chuck-em in the dirt!

under 14 game Sturt crumbled last week when tigers got on a roll, gave up a 15 point lead, were outscored 16-7 in the last quarter of the under 18's and were saved from elimination by forestville choking

You must go to the Boti school of 'how to win meaningless games'

U14 Boys were without 2 of there best 3 players. 1 sick and 1 on camp.

Their best kid got injured and didn't play.

sturt nob

you right the book of excuses or did you read them from Mark Williams???

doesnt say much for the club if it relies on one or two players to win games

what were the excuses in under 18's, had the whole team available??

Counting my southern deep fried chickens 12345678910 lol

I'd bet my house that Southern won't beat Sturt in the U14 semi final. Whoever introduced the Internet to you Southerners has a lot to answer for. You're just making fools of yourselves and reinforcing the stereotype that others have of you. Lots of talk but no results to back it up when it matters. 14 Boys may well make the grand final, but they won't beat Sturt there either. As for U18, maybe wait until you actually win a game that matters. Sturt will eliminate Southern in the semi final, of that there is nothing surer.

You southerners certainly suffer from the mentality described below from Wikepedia

"Tall poppy syndrome (TPS) is a pejorative term primarily used in Australia, but also in New Zealand, Canada and other Anglosphere nations to describe a social phenomenon in which people of genuine merit are resented, attacked, cut down, or criticised because their talents or achievements elevate them above or distinguish them from their peers." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_poppy_syndrome

###853.

Consider this:
U18 Sturt girls, 9 players. 8 at SASI and same 8 have at some point represented the State. 7 Top Age and 2 First years. All very good players in a team with depth. They should be capable of stepping up with a few injuries. Sturt so far have lost 5 games.

U18 Tiger Girls. 9 players. Only 1 at Sasi and same one represented the State. 4 Top age and 5 First years. Have probably puched well above their weight and deserve some respect. Tigers so far have only dropped one game this season ( against N'Wood)

Give credit where credit is due.


In all fairness Sturt should, on paper and historically, pretty well dominate, even with one or two players out. Surely one could not suggest that without one particular player (A.S) missing that the team is not capable. (She has clearly been rested with the finals in mind.)



Good luck to every one heading for finals. May the best team win...and win graciously.

..."win graciously"

I'm not sure Southern people know what this means.

Boy do I wish I had a cent per post... If everyone spent time improving their club and games as much as they do on here arguing about essentially nothing, they'd have more to show for their time. (Says the guy who argues about NBL stuff too much.)

Just had to rush off to the doctors to get a checkup to see if I was suffering from tall poppy syndrome.
Thought my life might have been in danger.
Doc said I was all clear, turns out its a made up syndrome by people that think they are better than everyone else!!

Nothing wrong with a bit of club pride issac

How did a thread on Winter Season Finals turn into a Sturt Bashing and poaching accussations.... as the sounds of the duelling banjos fades off into the distance of the southern mountains

Like always, the Sturt bashing started around the time their chest beating started about finals appearances.

Anyway, doesn't worry me I'll be off to an ABL prelim final tonight at Pasadena. Must be a home final for Sturt. Oops, I forgot. They're a no show in the big league.

Now I understand the focus on the kids....

Who's on first base??

http://youtu.be/wfmvkO5x6Ng

Add to that "No Southern people allowed near computers until they actually achieve something"

(Mod: Axe to grind, eh?)

Not the PPS (pushy parent syndrome) coming into play again!!
From what I see on Hoops regularly is that the coaches who don't have a good team, or make the finals, are under the gun. Here it apears that team which has made finals is under the PPS pressure, --just what a team needs leading into finals.

My mail is that some parents need to sit down and support the coach through the finals period. If not happy at end of season, then think about a change.

(Mod: Axe to grind, eh?)

SP33, maybe the point of JUNIOR competition is not winning at any cost, maybe it is developing future players with good work ethics and commitment to the teams they play for. If you lose the 'not so talented' players who put in the commitment but dont get court time, eventually you dont have a team. remember a team of champions does not make a champion team!

So tiger. How do you like them apples?

Wow! That wasn't even close! 24 points...pfft.

Dunno. But do know that sturt whopped southern by 24 points

Hey , Did you tell everyone on the way out how good you were. Good to see the Southern tradition of NOT winning finals continues on the weekend.

""""anon 737

you're probably some hanger on that sits on the bench aren't you!

will enjoy hearing the excuses when we beat you in the finals.

i am sure they will be coming think and fast.

like my gutter mouth will be telling you where to go on your way out the stadium"""

Anonymous above and you single out a couple of kids in the sturt team and you dont think thats feral talk!

Yes and you Southern clowns are the ones that start all the big talk. Shame you can't win a final.

I know it's finals, but why (in the U18 Boys Div 1) did Norwood host Sturt at Pasadena?

Were Sturt "rubbed in the dirt"

You cant predict who will be in finals the venue was picked without any thought about who was or would have been playing

And 16 girls I believe. Mesecke will need to pick up the recruiting to fix this mess.

It's a bit of a moot point given that Norwood won the 18s game anyway. In any case, surely you play Div 1 finals at the best stadiums - Pasadena and Wayville.

starplex

Wayville goes to the dogs around finals time every year.

"It isn't a BSA stadium and paying to hire other venues when they have their own available doesn't make much sense."

Try telling that to a team who are disadvantaged by playing a "home" game against another team

Jack, would Norwood's 18 boys say they were disadvantaged by having to play Sturt at Pasadena? Given that Norwood won, I hardly think so.

"closer for fellow club members" - I assume we are talking Norwood?

Last week centrals had to travel to MV (2 hrs drive at peek hour) to play sturt and only 4 out of the 8 lights were working on the court (very dark)and the clock was also not working properly. Like 3 other clocks at mv on the night. These clocks were also down 2 weeks before at sapsasa day.(still not fixed for finals) It was very poor conditions. They should have played at a closer stadium with light and a clock that worked.

for God's sake pay the damn money BSA and play junior finals at a neutral venue such as the Dome. Cough up the dough and show some equity and a level playing field to ALL teams within the competition. To play finals at either Pasadena or Wayville favours those home-court teams. How could any plausible argument be launched to the contrary. Oh thats right..your child could be playing at either of those two Clubs..then it makes perfect sense.

Consider the Murray Bridge teams who dont have home games...... ever! Every match is 1 to 2 hours travel time and no home court advantage. They are just happy to play.

Are Murray Bridge 'soft' by not demanding any home games?

I think they are referring to the Eastern Magpies

probably showing my age. MB used to have teams, got folded into Eastern Mavs apparently. But 'back in the day' we made the trip twice a week for U18 & div1 game & Forestville was our 'home court' so every game was away.