notgood
Years ago

BSA to grab Bar and Canteen profits?

Rumour doing the rounds at Classics that BSA has designs on taking a BIG cut of Club Bar and Canteen profits. Will only impact on a few Clubs but would cause fee increases at those Clubs for their participants. Nothing like volunteers bleeding not only for their Club but now also BSA.

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In the Know  
Years ago

That rumour is as good as the one that goes around saying Victorian kids are a year older than ours but still play in the same grade.

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notgood  
Years ago

more substantiated than that,unfortunately. July 1 approaches.

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Red Raider  
Years ago

Doubt that it would work with Sturt as they lease through DECS.

Have heard that they have tried it on with Forestville.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Obviously there is an issue here which needs redressing. Profits going to clubs based on number of courts, facilities provided as part of court hire and number f games scheduled at facilities.

I think this is a matter which does require some consideration to attempt to level the playing field between teams. Perhaps an additional fixed charge should be levied on the basis of providing an area or a facility other than the basketball courts. This additional amount then needs to be put back into the system for District Clubs and not all others affiliated with BSA. If this rumour of "profit sharing" occurs it would be unwise to then direct this money to general revenue of BSA for spending on non district clubs.

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???  
Years ago

I've heard it's happening - another great move from the powers to be! More mismanagement by BSA!

What next will BSA want a cut of club sponsorship as well? Or does that already happen?

The first born of club presidents as well!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It makes magnificent sense. Inner city clubs employing fulltime staff, admin officers and not producing much for the amount of cash they go through. CEntralise the funds and distribute them based on club size.

Remember these are BASKETBALL facilities, NOT club facilities.

Increase the revenue slightly for the smaller clubs, through revenue sharing, so they can employ some extra admin assistance, but minimise the financial impact on the bigger clubs. I'd think a club with 250 players is running on 1/10th of the cost of clubs with 400 players with BSA bar/canteen revenue and court hire discounts to employ their extra staff. The status quo is ridiculous.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well they have nothing left to sell so they have to find another income sorce from somewhere......

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+  
Years ago

we are in a competition - yet some people here are worried about is evening up the playing field.

so will we next modify the game rules so it creates an even playing field !!!

last time I was 50 points down and driving a morris minor in the car park when everyone else had statesmans - nobody was interested in evening up the "playing field".

the situation of 2 external clubs playing at another teams stadium has been allowed to happen / evolve by the planners.
what if the club canteen refused to supply that game - then they will make no profit from that "visiting" game.

Will the small stadiums open their canteens - I have been at a small stadium and the canteen is all locked up - yet I have never seen the morphett vale one shut - so morphett vale will subsidise the stadium that did not have an open canteen?

I stand corrected if I have misinterpreted this forum topic.

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freddles  
Years ago

If BSA at behest of the clubs are organising canteen and bar profits to be equally divided into all clubs, why not. I believe, Mavs, Woodville, Norwood, Centrals would be without canteen and bar facilites and can not get them where they are for various reasons. Why not wait till the announcment IF it comes and see the reasoning behind it or move behind it. Remember it is not usually what bSA themselves think up it is often what the clubs have approached them to do.

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+  
Years ago

If you have allowed a situation to occur where you do not have control over something you want control of.

It is your problem for letting it happen in the first place - not the other persons down the road.

I volunteer for my club - maybe they can subsidise my rent then ?



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Chairman Mao  
Years ago

So people think that a basketball communist dictatorship is a great idea? 30% approval rating for a (mildly) socialist federal government at the moment. I bet if it went any further left you would all be on the streets protesting. But it's OK in basketball because you want something for nothing.

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+'s not -'s  
Years ago

the clubs mentioned before would have known the arrangements regarding the canteens and bars from the start.

Why not get something going alternatively and independently - where the club can benefit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yet again penalising the progressive clubs that go out and generate revenue for their club. I don't have much love for Forestville, but I do have much love for their BBQ when it's going and will always purchase something there. On the other hand, I have been at stadiums that didn't even have the canteen open. Kudo's the the club people that man these, whether paid or as volunteers. Yet again the lazy clubs sook instead of pulling their socks up and actually putting some work in (I know, it's easier to do!). That's IF it is about revenue sharing...

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LMAO  
Years ago

How exactely will BSA determine the profit of said 'cash' businesses?

Very easy to make a loss if you do it right/wrong.

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???  
Years ago

Well all of a sudden those club 'volunteers' manning the bars and canteens should now get paid ther $15 - $25 dollars an hour to man them or maybe BSA should employ people to run these facilities instead.

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Bwian  
Years ago

Oh stop it! You're all being very naughty boys indeed. Just think.......would it be...could it be possible that BSA act in an even way in any undertaking..........see you just answered your own question. It's impossi...bull

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Ammon  
Years ago

LMAO

difficult to work out profit margins??

Income minus expenditure.

With correct book keeping it should not be difficult.

Not really rocket science.

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LMOA  
Years ago

But what expenses? Will volunteers become 'paid staff'?

And what income, considering its cash?

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My shout  
Years ago

I will be selling booze out the back of my car In the car park and donating the profits to my club

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to be fair  
Years ago

So if Canteen and bar profits are to be distributed, does that also aply for

Norwood Carnival
Aussy Hoops income
Club camps
ABA door income


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Bwian  
Years ago

The doom continues.........all players over 18 will have to pay an extra 5 dollar entry fee at games for every cm in excess of standard length penises and butt measurements for girls is being considered the next taxable ass et..............where will it all end? is there no chance of slaying the black knight of basaville? Be afraid of sparrows, certain rabbits and jack toft my friends.........

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+'s not -'s  
Years ago

to be fair !


SPOT ON MATE - GOOD POINT

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Melvin Corpuscle  
Years ago

Sell the beer at cost price and "recommend" a donation to the value of what you would have sold the beer at ... no profit for bsa to grab ...

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notgood  
Years ago

The operation of Club canteen and/or Club Bar becomes untenable. The Clubs give up the running of these income streams to BSA to then take over and operate. BSA pay employees to run said facilities that now require a hefty increase in prices to cover costs . All goods in Canteen reach ridiculous price-points. Hours of operation drastically reduced due to only being open a 'prime time' hours. Clubs now have to slug their juniors in additional fees to cover lost revenue. Or run a ridiculously priced Tournament ( see Norwood ) to cover lost revenue . The biggest loser in this whole debacle? The sport of basketball, Mums and Dads taking little Johnny and Jane away to another sport that they can afford AND also pay the mortgage.
Short sighted, cash grab by the powers that be. A disgrace.

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business  
Years ago

notgood I'll offer a counter arguement.

BSA continues to give canteen and bar facilities to clubs at no cost.

Clubs generate money from canteens and bars with no costs associated to them such as rent, electricity, water, maintenance.

BSA covers these costs as manager's of the facility but alas as BSA are running stadiums as charities to clubs through no cost facilities, discounted court hire, no cost court hire for some activities ... these stadiums continue to make little or no money or in fact run at a loss.

BSA is unable to invest in growth of venues, growth of competitions, growth of development programs because its putting all its money into covering the operating cost of a facility which makes money for a tenant but not the management.

Stadiums remain small and run down, if BSA manages to keep them open at all and the whole of basketball suffers so that clubs can have something for free.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Simple - just charge a commercial rent for the Bar and Canteen facility commensurate with the quality of the facility and the potential throughput based on number of games scheduled there during a season. For example the rent at Marion should be much lower as it has no bar facility and only has two courts to atrract potential patrons to the canteen v say Forestville or Pasadena.

Business, you mention that in some circumstances BSA doesn't charge for court hire. I would love to know in what circumstances this occurs.

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';'  
Years ago

I think a lease with a fee is the right business decision. I am nearly certain that some of the canteens do pay their staff....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do the sums on which clubs have NBL players in their teams.... BSA discounted bar/canteen = NBL players in your NBL side. Good on BSA for ensuring basketball is commercially sustainable and able to grow and develop financially. Rather than putting the cash into clubs that have fulltime, inefficient, staff (I mean what does a Coaching director do from 8:30 AM to 4 PM every day anyway??????)...

Its not rocket science, BSA aren't running slush fund they are there to develop the game so when they make money, basktball makes money.

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Chairman Mao  
Years ago

BSA are a peak body not a private enterprise. They should be HELPING the clubs fend for themselves, not controlling them and not being a bloated basketball dictatorship intent on justifying their own existence. Your arguments would hold if they were a private enterprise. They are not!

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Home comming  
Years ago

If you start paying canteen/bar staff then you will have to up the prices to cover workcover/super this could open a can of worms ( not sure but i think basa had some troble with this a few years ago ) If they start taking a cut will they put money back into the club if the cantenn makes a loss? Will they put money in to have the coffee machine fixed ? Or help cover the cost for a new fridge or frezer?

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Hanging Round  
Years ago

Well said "Home Coming".
What a great advantage for 'stadiums' within schools, or those with regular school activities, be it netball, basketball, volleyball, gym etc and can afford to operate a canteen 'outside' the BSA game times. Not an equal playing field.
What if a canteen or bar requires A/C to keep the staff happy- who pays?
If staff are required to be paid, does workcover and Super come into it.
Has the person who started this topic got any substance, or is it just stirring the shit pot?

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notgood  
Years ago

excuse me for raising the topic Hanging Round. By 'substance' you would be referring to match your credentials..or? I've been involved in the sport for 30 years in varying capacities.I was under the belief that the topic was worthy of consideration and debate. If that is your opinion of 'stirring the shit pot' then so be it.

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Hanging Round  
Years ago

Notgood-- I simply ask whether your topic has any 'substance'?
You started of the topic with "Romour going round"
I am asking whether there are any facts to support this rumour?
I certainly don't agree with the idea, but wonder where/how the rumour started?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon 152 I'm pretty sure that's exactly what try plan to do, and it will be quite a small fee not at all close to commercial rate.

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notgood  
Years ago

Hanging Round it most definitely has 'legs' and is under consideration. Appears to have already been some disguised BSA responses within this thread.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not that well disguised...

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+'s not -'s  
Years ago

WE NEED PANDAs - Aren't they in line for a big cash injection at the zoo ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Eastern want to run a bar/canteen etc. they have to negotiate with their landlords. Whey should it be any different for Sturt or Forestville?

Just because in Sturt/Forestville's case the landlords also happen to put money back into the games development as the peak body does it mean they should give Sturt/Forestville special priveledges over Eastern????

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm not sure if there is an undeniable relationship between bar and canteen facilities and funding imports in the ABL. What is undeniable is that clubs with such facilities are significantly better off than those that do not have these facilities?

I would think that Sturt's facilities help with their junior development staff and they seem junior orientated and develop their senior team where possible from this base. They lose a point for buying. Rating 7 out of 10

Forestville on the other hand seem obsessed with being in senior finals and spend money on imports and loose good juniors far too regularly. Rating 3 out of 10.

Southern still have no direction despite their stadium and with their senior program's stalled. The women's team unlike Sturts is made up of other people's juniors and despite medium success is unlikely to stay together for very long. Good courts but too far away to keep players travelling for dollars.The influence of certain people is obvious in the policy of recruit rather than develop. Unless they get a decent junior development program there will be vacant courts down south. 2 out of 10.

South's seem senior absorbed, men first, women fourth, have no junior girl's program and think an ABL championship is the goal. Where are they heading and how are they going to get there? 1 out of 10.

Wests are rebuilding their junior program and their senior teams have home grown talent amongst them. They are the emergent western suburbs team in that area's chaos and are best placed to be the only western suburbs team and need to talk to their neighbours. Rating 7 out of 10.

North remain an enigma. Some years they have money for jam next they're on the dole. Change coaches like underpants and for the wrong reasons and are under the influence of others. They produce reasonable and poachable juniors but have they got the mix right? Rating 4 out of 10.

Now Norwood doesn't have a bar so what is it getting a rating for? Despite no canteen or bar facilities, Norwood has enjoyed other, more favourable little tid bits. No it isn't it's flash new home at Campbelltown and all the perks associated with that stroke of good fortune but I wonder just how much the BSA sanctioned Easter carnival puts into the coffers, any guesses? Enough to have both senior teams top of the league you think?

The system is not bent or crooked just a little wobbly?

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Pallas  
Years ago

Sturt do have to negotiate with their landlords.

Its Decs.

BSA doesnt pay power for the canteen, the school does.

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+'s not -'s  
Years ago

what amazes me is there is an article in todays advertiser that the pandas / zoo need 24 million.

here we have an activity (basketball) which people / human beings are interested in and facilities they use.

I am sure BSA would never get 24mill in assistance.

The pandas are a great exhibit and we are privileged to have them - but let's look after the people first.

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Europa  
Years ago

business,

Do you have any idea about how he system works?

Only a fool would believe that any of this revenue generated from this will go back to other clubs. It will merely get wasted like all the other money clubs already give them.

At a recent meeting of our committee, we worked out that our club pays BSA around $125K per year.

$50K of this is purely from court hire, nominations, registratios and affiliations.

We have 50 teams and each game we play BSA gets $100. thats $2500 per week. 30 weeks of the year means $75000 goes into BSA AFTER refs and the door person are paid.

And that doesnt include the $100K we spend on court hire at other venues training the players that then go into the BSA comp.

For this $125K we get bad refs, a program that doesnt come out till half way through the season, and a new bylaw that says we have to pay BSA when they stuff up if we want to query them.

Finally, we were informed that despite all the money we give them, they have specifically told their JDO's that they are NOT allowed to put players into the club system, because BSA want to put these kids into their own domestic competitions so that they can make more money rather than the clubs.

Now, if there are 10 clubs, that works out to be approx $1M. If they need to rip more money out of the competiiton, to pay for development, then they might need to look at what they are spending in terms of wages and outgoings, and what exactly is coming back into them accordingly.

Cause from where the clubs are sitting they are not doing a very good job of geting kids playing the sport.

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ballboy  
Years ago

take a bow Europa, that is exactly what should be laid bare. This misappropriation of funds by our governing body and the repercussions to the grass-roots level. Where the hell is ALL THAT MONEY GOING? More office staff, more feasibility studies,more consultants.

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stirer  
Years ago

Maybe we could get the Pandas to come out and watch a few games!
Would be a good money spinner, each time they go to a game another $3.00 at the door entry fee, unless they fork out some extra cash for a transfer ticket, plus the general public could come visit them at the stadiums {more entry fees} but alot cheaper than going to the zoo and a bonus of watching some kids play some good ball

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just get the Reff to wear thier old black and white striped tops again and tell the govement we have the pandas so the money comes to us....LOL

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well said Europa! GREAT post.

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business  
Years ago

Actually Europa I do understand how the system works having been involved quite heavily in my club in the past.

But as I'm not involved in the running of my child's club I am willing to see this from a business point of view not an emotional one, like some of the other posters in here.

Looking at the prices online I don't follow your figures at all.

To start with your 50 teams would I assume cover a cross section of Under 10's to ABA. Your club is only responsible for paying nominations for these teams apart from ABA where your club also pays to a fund to pay for scoretable and referee payments.

Looking at a Junior div 1 game for example. $7.00 @ 8 players (assuming your team has 8, some have more some have less) = $56.00 income. Adding in spectators at $3 (which is less then it used to be when I was on a committee) might get your one team's income to BSA up to appox $92. Include the opposition team and that's $184. For 2 teams, not 1.

$184 income from one game. Less referees ($35), Less Umpire In Charge, Less Door person, Less Court hire (in some cases), Less other costs such as electricity in BSA stadiums.

Maybe $100 from one game, from two teams.

Remember your club isn't paying $125k. If you're $50k figure is accurate then that's all your club is paying. Your members are paying the rest.

No matter how good referees were people would complain. You want better refs, then expect to pay double what you and your members pay now. Based on my experience in other sports basketball referees would be the lowest paid referees in the state. You get what you pay for.

My own experience with programs is that clubs are to blame not BSA. Why do you think BSA can't do a draw from the start? Because clubs keep pulling teams out and requesting to put new teams in. How is that BSA's fault?

Your numbers just don't stack up.

Again a simple online check around State Associations will show you that the money isn't wasted. BSA has less then half the staff of other State Associations. How are BSA wasting money on office staff? Surely they need more? That way they can provide a better service, source alternative sources of revenue, provide better referee development programs ...

Sorry Europa but I think you're a tad emotional over something that may or may not happen and even if it does, no one knows just how much BSA will be asking of clubs for providing a space, patrons and covering ongoing costs so they can make $20-60k profit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No words are needed. To solve the woes of basketball a picture says a 1000 words:

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';'  
Years ago

An don't forget BSa would have to pay public liability insurance which is a fortune..

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Europa  
Years ago

business,

You obviously aren't involved with your club.

Most clubs provided that 'space' themseleves. Built and paid for with their own money and members efforts. Or through ourside bodies like DECS and the Showgrounds or councils

Our club does more than pay team nominatoins. Nominations for 50 teams equates to over $5K each season plus ABA. And another $5k for State Champs. It also pays BSA for individual player registrations, about $15 per plyer or $5.5K. Plus it pays and insurance levy of $6 per player or $2.5K. Plus a BA levy of about $5 per player or $2K. Plus we pay court hire for trainings of $20K, this does not include the $100K we pay elsewhere.

If you look at my figures, I put 2500 as the weekly figure. Thats 25 games multipled by $100, or half of the 50 teams which makes 25 games, which is $2500. We play 30 games on average. Ths comes to $75K And yes it is my opinion that this is my clubs money, its my clubs members, paying BSA this amount of money. Because my committee and coaches do all the work, not BSA. Without my club spending the time to recruit players into the sport, and administrering these player, BSA would not get $1. And they provide no assistance in getting kids playing the sport. Or helping clubs keep them playing.

As for electricity. BSA runs social and other programs that make a similar, if not greater amount of money. Which puts them at over $2M generated from competitions. But about $1M from district. DO you want to add that to their electricity bill? They come out way in front.

The figures

Nominatons $19K
Court Hire $20K
Player registation $5.5K
Insurance $2.5
Levy $2K

Plus $75K in game fee.

There is a reason why clubs like South and Woodville are struggling. Its because BSA would rather take their income streams like Aussie Hoops, Canteens and anything else they can get their hands on and are incapable of providing even 1 player into their club. The clubs pull out teams because kids leave the sport. And BSA does nothing to assist retention by over charging, and squeezing the people/clubs they have. Something they are doing here again.

BSA's crowning glory in club assistance, has been getting Woodville back to St. Clair where they started 30 years ago. And screwing up Norwood getting back to CLC where they were 30 years ago.

Great Work. Where does all this money go?

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run the gauntlet  
Years ago

great post Europa, I recon we just let BSA have it all.
The quicker we give it all to them the quicker they'll stuff it up and then the clubs take over.
after all thats what BSA stands for (Better Spend All of it).
AND YES BRING ON THE PANDAS.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

LOL we tried having clubs run everything. That was called BASA

Remember how that worked out!?

Everyone in basketball looking after themselves and never caring about the sport it why basketball is the mess it is.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Europa 2, business 0.

Another great post Europa. Totally dismantled business and the BSA propoganda.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Instead of asking where all this money goes ask how much money dragged from District Basketball is used to support other members of BSA or, perhaps worse, how much is being spent on basketball Associations for want of a better word which are not Affiliated with BSA.

How much grant money which BSA works on extracting from the government is directed to non affiliated BSA areas.

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Europa  
Years ago

anon #295

It wasn't the clubs fault that the 36ers and Lightning were losing $2M per year, the Dome was a white elephant done by the then CEO and board, which was set up to circunavigate the clubs. The clubs had no say in it.

And what has changed at junior level since BSA has taken it over. Nothing, except the insurance and registration that was once included in the ticket price increases, now come seperate without a decrease in ticket prices. Funny that there has been a coresponding decrease in participation at junior level.

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Ammon  
Years ago

Ok Europa who seems to have this all nutted out;

where is BSA mis-spending the income?

Do you think it is feasable for BSA to chop Money off of Fees and tickets? If so how much?

What do you suggest would be the best revenue source for BSA, either new or existing?

How do BSA get more people involved with Basketball?

I'm asking this in a positive approach, as you seem to have strong opinion about what BSA are doing wrong.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Europa, Woodville gave up the aussie hoops program becuase it wasn't earning them any money but costing them. they allowed bsa to take it over.

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Europa  
Years ago

Did the BSA DO in the area provide numerous kids to this program to make it more profitable?

I bet they will now that they are taking the money.

Then they will put them into BSA domestic teams.

Meanwhile, Woodville will struggle to exist and BSA will actually lose more money in the long term.

Please, try a bit harder than that.

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Ammon  
Years ago

Europa did you miss my post?

I'll add another question too,

What do you believe the purpose of Ausse Hoops and Domestic Program is? And would it be a money spinner for BSA?


It so far seems that your happy to rag on everything/anything that BSA do, but when I ask some pretty simple questions you don't respond...

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Ammon  
Years ago

Oh and the poor me Woodville story doesn't wash with me.

Look at St Claires BSA run mini ball comp, and then explain to me why Woodville can't get u10 and u12 and even players for Aussie Hoops!

Clearly not putting in the effort required for the output Desired.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There is a weak central body governing the sport. It's divided across the state and multiple bodies administer basketball programs. Nobody really understands the district seen in the new mix and what changes to the member clubs were made nor if removing clubs is an option.
Country basketball sucks out of and doesn't contribute to the overall body and at every junction in the associations there are power brokers holding the game back.
Money is wasted in the far outer suburbs when the inner city suburban club infrastructure perishes. No centralised multi court stadia means no progress and more and more people will drift as biting fuel costs make starplex (our best facility and not bsa owned) Mt Barker snd southern expensive venues to travel to.
The aussie sports programs are window dressing as is the association model people rave about. Where are the players to form associations. The chief at BSA thinks this is the way forward but it shows an inability to adapt to what is reality and even worse the lack of real vision.

BSA tackle none of the real issues that would take courage to visit,like too many clubs, zoning and addressing a falling female participation rate. Bring in zoning and two years afterwards introduce 'real' pro/rel. Close 3 clubs.

What assets to BSA have? Essentially the volunteers that run their association and what do BSA want to do them? Tax their custard tarts and coke sales.They are all blondes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm always curious why people claim a big stadium in the city is the answer.

I live in the southern suburbs and would never encourage my child to play basketball if his club wasn't local with local games.

Might be great for those that live in the inner city but for the rest of us, and we're growing, it's not something I would encourage BSA to do.

Considering the far North, South and Hills are the areas which will grow the most in the next 30 years shouldn't BSA be looking to improve local basketball in those areas rather then forcing them all to travel into the city every week?

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annon  
Years ago

BSA can't run basketball in this state....

Lost all sponsors in 4 years

Didnt get one cent of the government hand outs to join with schools and build

Has not got all the bodies controlling the sport to agree on moving forward

Has run promotion / relegation which now sees some Winter divisions have three teams from one club and U23 comps with 5 teams from two clubs

It has 12 team comps playing 18 rounds hence not everyone plays everyone twice , and still expects parents to pay $6 to play and $3 to watch terrible lopsided games.


Stronger clubs have got stronger, weaker clubs just dont get help and BSA wont listen or act.

ABA is training more than they play, all clubs requested Div 2 to move to Wednesday with no response and seniors never play at their home courts.

And now this comes up.

BSA can't run basketball, how could it expect to run anything with date codes and use by dates.

Port Adelaide, Marion and Hillcrest are proof they would fail running canteens and bars.

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The Answer  
Years ago

I need a drink!

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anon  
Years ago

Welcome to run bar and canteen at MARS and St Clair.

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anon  
Years ago

Welcome to run bar and canteen at MARS and St Clair.

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