I hope it was 5 game losing streak, not a loosing streak.

"tighter than a rashie on a fat kid"...LMAO, classic Jack Gold.

west will win for sure

Thanks again Jack for keeping me up with home ABL. No basketball in Prague.
I still don't get why 'Anonymous 1' is always so negative. Is life so bad?
Cheers from a warmer climate

Banal!
Jack's the only one promoting local basketball and he does it in a way that stirs the pot a bit to get more discussion going. Some jokes may be a little lame but at least every Thursday I have something to read. Where's Boti? and where's the official Woite write up?

If you can do better than Jack, have a go!

(are you just annoyed because he has more than likely paid you out)

Great write up Jack! had quite a chuckle!

"Borrego and her bobsled team"

"tighter than a rashie on a fat kid"

Brilliant!

Nice call on Centrals upsetting West. They won by 3 I think.

Sturt women with a win over mavericks by 7, after winning by 60 odd last time.

Sturt men up by 20 at half time holding the mavs to 25 points, then Hill put on a show scoring 18 3rd quarter points to come back. Sturt steadied the ship and won by 10.

Just wondering when this thread will degenerate into a slogging match over junior development?

Southern girls gave Norwood a bit of a scare last night, getting to within 3 during the 3rd quarter, before the Lady Flames got their act together.

No Simon last night, Brenton had some interestingly different rotation choices, also forced by illness to Payne (who still suited but DNP) and Herrick also seemed to sit quite a lot of the game. Lisa Ackroyd was taken to hospital via ambulance after dislocating a shoulder late in the game, and Deanna Troia also rushing off to the changerooms after a blow to the nose.

Men's game was a clinic, Brad able to give his bench players a lot of extended court time. Krause top scored for the night, and even dished off 2 assists (career high??). Only entertainment of the game was Marcus Robinson (#10 Southern) and Jack Jennings (#15) Eastern getting into it a couple of times, otherwise the traffic was as one way as the Southern Expressway!

Jack, as soon as someone mentions South or Woodville women's results, it should be on. Hang tight.

West Men looked tired.
Only 6 players used by west - Braithwaite was on bench but wasn't playing?
Kollasch had a night out.

I heard Braithwaite was on the bench cause someone mucked up the score sheet and didn't have his name down, so the score bench denied him of playing even though he plays every week. The refs asked the opposition coach if he could be put on the sheet and he said no.... Scott that's the most unlike sportsmanship Iv ever seen from a coach... I felt embarrassed to be a centrals supporter! Good on Braithwaite for holding his head high and cheering on his team.

I think you will find the referee was so scared to make a decision they threw the decision to scott, pathetic. The rule says he doesn't play not the opposition coach, maybe when belly signs the score sheet next time he will check there are 12 on the list and not 11, not centrals problem, pretty sure they won't miss ya if you stop coming if you are that embarrassed.

That's the gayest rule Iv ever heard of!

Anyone know how Tigers went?

So why was braithwate allowed to be subbed on in the first quarter???
It only became an issue once he scored a lay up?? WTF

Scott did look like a bad sport for not allowing him to continue to play, I don't care who you cheer for.
- but the ref shouldn't of made scott make the call
- and the score table shouldn't of let him sub in
- and west coaches should of checked the sheet

Sounds like more than one person stuffed up here...

Would him playing have effected the final result? Who knows.
But you gotta love home court advantage!!!

Certainly not scott's decision to make. Poor officiating

Well said Anon. And yes Scott was a bad sport ... The ref gave him the final decision.

Yes the refs should have made the call, in conjunction with the score table chair, who should have (or did they) bring it to the attention of the refs.

Not sure why people think it is bad sportsmanship by Scott to make sure the rules are applied.

The scoretable chair, who calls the subs does not have a scoresheet in front of them, so they would not have known that he wasnt on the sheet. It would only be when he scored the layup, and the scorer and stats bench would not have had him on the sheet/in the system that the discrepancy would have been found.

Where was the ref incharge at the west and centrals game?

Pity the ref didn't just let scott ref the entire game, sing the anthem and cook the aftergame food , why even send refs if they are not going to rule on the laws of the game

I thought the ref incharge that sits with the fans would have come over to the score bench and made the final decision for the refs as clearly they did not know what to do, which sounds like the case. The coaches should of been told what the decision was, NOT asked if it was ok as rules are rules.

The Answer, maybe less rotations rather than different ones? Looks like Foley and Ireland played a lot of minutes.

Had to laugh at the North - South game last night. Johnson decided to have a hissy fit after a foul wasn't called - twice- and sat in the key and 'rested' while his 'team mates' were left to play 4 on 5. It looks like another long season for the sixers if he is the great hope.

Or results for norwood?

Yes Johnson's body language left alot to be desired last night - it was pretty bad! Couldn't believe he decided to 'sit' in the offensive keyway to protest the refs no call!

Anon, Norwood results are on the Central ABL page, they were webcast last night. Click on the webcast links, and view the game.

rocketman, DJ had something like 34 and 16 and you want to say he will be no good for the Sixers next season because he didn't like a couple of calls lol you idiot! In the majority of the games there is several times he is hacked and if he was anyone else there would be a foul called but he just has to put up with it as the umpires seem to have different rules on what is a foul against him. So I can understand why he acted like he did.

His stats bar turnovers were pretty good but at times he looked disinterested and was even yawning on defense?

DJ yawning and looking disinterested is just how he is. Its obviously different and not very motivating but is just the way he is but I agree it is very strange to see.

I also agree players of his quality will not want to play in the local leagues if umpires treat them differently.

Treat them differently,please.

They don't need the free ride they get as it is...

Whitmore did the right thing from what I can see. Left it to the umpires to decide.

Not his decision to make & even if he did want the West player to play or not play it is out of his hands.

Rule is clear & simple & he should not have had any say, which he didn't.

I thought the bar at Starplex on court 2 was standing room only until a chair appeared in it last night from court 1...

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DJ got hacked big time on Saturday night. Yes he had 9 turnovers but would be nice if he get a call.

If the refs are going to treat 36ers players different to the refs with these foul calls they probably won't play next year.

What a joke got hacked my a.. ....What about the times he pushed and even swung at another player who stopped him on a rebound ...If you want to dish it out be ready to get some back,and sticking your finger up at the reff will not help ......

Sixers players do get a special ride no doubt about that - Refs seem to be intimidate by their presence -
bad feedback at this level can hurt

I wouldn't want to be the West Team Manager at the moment.

I agree jack... Yeh she owes the player a cartoon of beer or two I say!

It's definitely a slab or two in the beer economy....

As much the coaches fault. The coach has to sign off on the score sheet.

Yeh Belly messed up big time! And they lost which makes it worse. Not a good round for West at all!

Scott Whitmore is being made the scape goat here and it is not and never was his call.
Fact: West coach signed off on the score sheet to say his team was correct.
Fact: Wasn't till the illegal player took the court and play had already resumed that both the bench and stats stared asking who number 11 was.
Fact: At the first break in play, chairperson stops the game and informs referee that there is a player on the court not on the score sheet.
Fact: Referee approaches Scott Whitmore who walks way saying "not my decision".
Fact: Referee and chairperson deem player cannot play under FIBA rules.
Fact: West coach very luckly for not being Teched when he launches kick into subsitute chair and sends it flying.
Fact: If West player had been allowed to play, West would have still forfeited the game under FIBA rules.
Fact: If you claim to be a Centrals supporter and are embarassed by Scott's action, do us a favour and go support another team.
Fact: Scott should never have been placed in that position and he DID NOT make the final decision.
Fact: How do I know, I was close enough to hear it all.

A bit like Norwood v West women's game when Norwood had players in two different uniforms. No-one was capable of making a decision that night either. Is it the elite competition in the state or just mickey mouse?

Cheers for the facts Anon. It isn't a school basketball game it is a professional basketball game and rules apply.

Definately falls on Coach Bell as he sighted the scoresheet last and it is his responsibility to check all 12 names not just his starting 5.

Maybe West shouldn't be putting so much on a single volunteer having to manage both ABL Mens and Womens teams one after the other on game night! Must be a tough gig!

But maybe it was all West Adelaide's fault for not developing their juniors!!


(Sorry, couldn't help myself any longer!)

More importantly, I'm told the game was close. Did the layup by the "offending" West player count? Was a tech foul issued? If the layup was cancelled and a tech issued, then there's the margin.

why would there be a tech issued Moses, not in the rules, play is removed from court and not to play any further part. score should count, much like if some one from team a scores in team b's basket, it gets awarded to captain.

per the rules, the managers on tournament organisers are responsible for filling in the sheet or printing out the sheet like at nationals. The coach, and only the coach has the responsiblity of marking the starters, making sure the captain is marked, and importantly checking that all players are listed, BEFORE they sign the scoresheet against there name that it is a true and correct record of their team.

If Joe Bloggs is down as Joe Blaggs easy enough to change. If Joe Bloggs normally wears 5 and James bloggs normally wears 6 and they are reversed easy enough to change. If Joe Bloggs and James Bloggs play in the same team and Joe Bloggs and not James is named only Joe can play. If the coach realises James is not on the scoresheet as he checks marks the starters it can be added. Can not be added at ABL, NBL, WNBL, National championships or International games. Juniors is a different kettle of fish as they play under BSA by laws.

Points counted and were awarded to the captain

Moses- Why on earth would a tech foul be awarded? The player obviously had no idea he wasnt on the sheet! Wasn't his fault!

Whats done is done with the centrals game, west will just have to learn by their mistakes. As for the sixer guys hard done by the refs is a joke. Most players will tell u that they always get looked after and that every other player gets screwed. Every one notices the missed calls on sixer players cause people r focusing more on them more. The refs have been terrible so far. The current sixer guys arent like the sixer guys of old because until they start to be a better team in the nbl no one should think they should get any special treatment in the abl. Umpires just need to call it as they see regardless of whos involved.

As i said in my post, the umpirers should just call it as they see it regardless of who it is. Alot of players are getting hacked not just 6er players. Spectators are focusing on the nbl guys so it looks like they are more hard done by, but their not.