I think you will find that Thursday is up.

Changes in girls team nominations from Winter 09 to Winter 11:

Central Districts 3 7 133.33%
Eastern 7 8 14.29%
Southern 12 13 8.33%
Western 7 7 0.00%
Sturt 20 19 -5.00%
Forestville 23 21 -8.70%
West Adelaide 14 12 -14.29%
Norwood 22 17 -22.73%
South Adelaide 12 9 -25.00%
North Adelaide 18 12 -33.33%
Woodville 13 6 -53.85%

I would suggest based on the above the clubs loosing girls should need the help, not the ones growing. Woodville , North, South and Norwood in particular have lost over 20% of their girls program.

Woodville ... moved homes 3 times. Haven't had a real home base to call their own since Athol Park (and even that was shared with West).

North ... Hillcrest. Dark, old, 2 courts - both falling apart, no decent facilities, no way of generating money, no miniball to recruit from.

South ... Marion. Dark, old, 2 courts, no bar, no decent facilities, no way of generating money, big but not strong miniball program. 2/3 close big spending rival clubs to compete with. Bleeds juniors to Sturt and Forestville partly because of its position, partly because of promises made by those clubs.

Norwood ... No home venue. Grabbing court space where they can at two venues. No Canteen/Bar facilities. BUT they do have a full time development manager (supported by BSA funding). Yet numbers down, Easter Classic numbers down.

If Norwood can employ someone and still shrink clearly having a full-time junior development person is not the silver bullet some claim it to be.

Clubs will grow only when all the stars align. Clubs need full time staff. Need basketball people not parents/volunteers making decisions and running programs. But also BSA needs to provide bigger and better stadiums. BSA needs to spread tournaments, Finals series, Events around multiple venue so other clubs can generate income other than the big two who get everything.

Some clubs don't help themselves. But BSA don't help them either.

Anon 104

Do your numbers for Winter 09 include U 21s which I believe were considered juniors then.

Numbers for this winter season only go to U18s ie U23s considered part of senior comp.

May be comparing apples and oranges

We should be aiming for both.

Some would say quality comes as a result of quantity.

The more players you have to choose from the more chance you have of having quality athletes within those numbers.

Bars are a source of income. More income means more money to spend. Means more money for junior programs for things like full time junior coaching directors or development officers. Means paying coaches to run clinics etc. Pasadena bar goes off on a Friday night. Masters games coming up. How much money do you think Sturt and Forestville will make out of that from their bars and canteens when neither club does anything towards running the competition nor do they pay any rent money back to BSA.

That was my reason for bringing up bar facilities. And I agree IF clubrooms/bars are open for junior nights they should NOT be allowed to sell alcohol.

Why not have the bar open and show the juniors responsible drinking.

PC-mad minority trying to shove their minority view down everyone elses throats.....again.