Is that the same anon asking a question & then ripping it to bits? Schitso??

I think you can make your own mind up on that and give you opinion surely.
Apart from those that get paid (CABL) do they have any responsibility to be so?
Many would argue that coaches have taken their lead from the state's head coach and once again you would have to draw your own conclusion as to his role model status.

Basketball more than any other sport I'm aware of seems stuck in the popular 60's style of coaching that valued aggressive verbals, derogatory comments and punishment and is very much a do as I say not as I do style.
Not every coach who yells is being abusive and not every quiet one is not abusive.

Some real role modelling occurs amid the lower and younger grades where 'playing' is valued above the win and development of the person becomes the goal.This is a difficult concept to transpose when you get to the div 1 and 2 levels for obvious reasons.

The role of 'role models' in sport is a much debated point. Can an athlete who reaches the top, do so without the aggressive content that allows them to get there in the first place and how do they switch off that component when they cross back into the public gaze. Perhaps the tag of role model should be associated with individuals whose achievements in life are more significant than the ability to play elite sport for the public's entertainment.

I've never associated sportsmen and women with role models. I have admired sport's people from various sports and envied their sporting ability but if you look at false gods for modelling coaches for your children , you will be disappointed. There is a big difference between aspiring to play like your sporting idol and admiring their ability to expecting that person to live up to your expectations of a good person.

The best junior club in this state has an excellent skills/game coach who would not be considered by many to be an ideal role model for young people but it has not harmed his advancement in the sport so one could surmise that positive coach role modelling is in the eye of the beholder and like all things basketball - subjective.

The best junior club in this state has an excellent skills/game coach who would not be considered by many to be an ideal role model for young people but it has not harmed his advancement in the sport so one could surmise that positive coach role modelling is in the eye of the beholder and like all things basketball - subjective

who exactly are you talking about?

853, I hope you are involved with some other sport and not coaching anything. The poster posed a question and you made assumptions which may or may not be accurate.
I'd rather read your explanation and points of view instead of a damning wealthy parents who you believe spoil their children rant.
Given your reply I can only deduce that you are both sexist (reference to pussy) and left school to early (peanuts).

After watching the District grand finals last week and seeing a metro state / sasi coach being kicked out of the stadium while coaching a game, I think that some coaches are definatley not good role role models for kids!!!!

i was at subway and the girl that had my lunch was glamorous.

= great roll model.

lunch roll

yep

On school holidays manos? Or just having a few days of at the schools request?

Curious to know if anonymous is the same aonymous throughout this thread.

While coaches carrying on like knobs in't a good look, any situations outlined in this thread need to be viewed in isolation.

Role models make mistakes - I believe it's just that the best role models make very small ones.

I also believe that their is a greater chance of a coach stuffing up badly if they are younger than older, as they have less experience dealing with the same/similar issues.

Role models are also subjective - what one parent sees as worthwhile values and beliefs in the role model, another parent will not.

The answer is easy,junior coaches are not always good role models. The reasons why are simpler to understand.
District sport attracts a higher percentage of aggresive parents who want their child to win and are extremely demanding, living their lives through their children is an often used description here.
The same can be said for some coaches extremely aggresive and demanding, living their lives through other peoples children if you like.
The higher the ladder position the higher percentage of the above behaviour occurs.
Remembering that these are children and sport is a recreational pursuit and not a business at this age.
You Do not have to let your children participate in District sport, or if you must , be more selective of the club you choose your child to join and be prepared to move if you are not happy with the behaviour standards of the club you are at.
Sporting clubs need your children to survive, you dont have to support the ones that dont respect the privelige it is to work with children.

anon, do you mean parents and players should allow abuse because they win and that to you represents excellence?

Somewhere along the way we forgot taht sport is meant to be fun, joyous, playful - instead its about individual glory or winning at all costs.

One or two of your parents are your role model for the first 10 years.After that lifes experiences build or in horrific conditions scar ,your character(edit:not aimed at coaches LOL).

Coaches are teachers if you are prepared to listen.Most kids listen but are not capable of being coaches themselves,its a rare breed of person that can teach,coach,motivate.
Out of the early 36ers teams I can only point out 5 who are coaching,returning their career skills back into the sport.At least One has a winning team.
That coach at Wayville lost the game as a result of his eviction and i hope the kids forget his behaviour plus contradictorily learnt never to be like that at the same time.He should lose his SASI appointment.
I know a lot of young coaches who are imparting their knowledge while still playing.This must be why they one of them has most of her team come out to watch her CABL games.
With the amount of media that focuses and is fed by thirst for entertainment personalities i wonder if anyone knows what a role model is/should be?The lines are blurred.The traditional family values are in competition with PR stunts for attention.

And if you are talking about the young coach I think you are she is perplexed that she isn't being offered more involvement with SASI development as a coach. I'm quite sure she would never be ejected from a game but takes her coaching very seriously. Simply a great role model for young basketballers and people.

Shotclock - I dont think that coach is at SASI. That coach had a moment of frustration with the umpires, nothing more nothing less. The players know that if you behave like that there are consequences, which was a lesson they learnt at that game didnt they!

And one of those 6ers coaches that you speak of does a lot of damage to the game with the way he carries on intimidating the refs so they wont make calls against his team, eject him or tech him every time his team play. But he has a lot of knowledge to impart to the players without a doubt and more than likely puts in countless hours with his team imparting that knowledge. But is he a good role model? it would be very questionable!

We are all role models for children - parents, coaches, referees, administrators etc.
Perhaps we can't be all of the time, but we can for most of it.
Parents should not abdicate the role to coaches, but coaches need to accept that they are a role model too.
Over 20 of coaching has had some wonderful rewards in watching children develop into young adults. Few have gone off the rails.
Sport can teach kids a bunch about life, and coaches can assist that. We do win, and we do lose, teach them how to deal with that. Philisophical, i know, but it's a real outcome for kids in sport.

To anonymous post 24th, what on earth are you on about? I commented some coaches are not good role models not all coaches. The majority are decent hard working people with a passion for sport. Not hard to guess what type you are with a rant like that, a guilty concience perhaps? I am very happy and lucky with the coaches my children have and glad you are not one. As for taking them and going home, never would i leave any sport they love because of a cowardly snipe from an anonymous like you.