Good and open story. Wish AdelaideNow would let Boti put more of his unpublished stuff up online.

Yeah that was a great insight! It was good to see him being honest about his OT adventure.

Good article.

Interesting perspective. I must admit, Overtime comes off as a rambling 'make it up as you go' mish-mash on occassion.

This article does nothing to disprove that.

Surely they can find more inciteful and bettwer prepared hoop-heads?

Boti watched it back and seen how much of a tool he is.
As if he didnt know what they might ask him about, did he think he might be there to talk about the Cricket give me a break.
My Grandfather told me many times, if you are happy that you know what is right and wrong there is no need to defend your actions.
Boti Ego how big is it?
Maybe Clark needs to do more of this shit, you guys lap it up.
Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story Boti!!

I'm not a Carfino fan at all so I haven't seen much of Overtime (I've said before I've never hearda genuine accent which seems so contrived - it's almost as bad as 'the outrageous French Uhccent' in Monty Python's Holy Grail). But I did want to see what Boti had to say and recorded the segment.

I blamed the almost still-born segment with Joey on the tensions between Shane and Joey and Joey being wary of walking into a set-up.

But then I was shocked by the feeble attempts to defend Marty by the panel - and I think there are many worthwhile arguments to refute Boti's stance that this season has been a failure.

An interesting article and one unlikely to generate a return invite but I suspect that may have been part of the motivation.

Boti's not wrong in stating the facts but I do think he is being selective in his use of the facts. Yes, the record will be worse than last year's but Ninnis was in year 2 and demonstrably going backwards whereas Marty has shown glimpses, has brought along some players and (possibly) positioned the club in terms of culture and attitude for future success. He deserves at least another year to prove his worth - after all, who would have given Moose another half-season at 1-14 this year?

Finally, Boti lost me at the end when he lauded the work done by Ken Cole, a master salesman if ever there was one. Sure, he generates interest, but he was easily the worst coach (at that level) I ever witnessed up close and personal, he ran the Newcastle Falcons into the ground to the point where their subsequent failure was inevitable (in a much more tangible way than Goorjian's accusers could ever establish) and if memory serves me correctly (I'm sure the 36ers fans will tell me when it doesn't) staked his claim to fame largely on a single, overwhelmingly succesful season with the league's first 'merged' team.

LMAO, sounds like an open assessment sounded like a man back peddling...

Only a guilty man pleads his innocence!

ankles, compare apples with apples. In Ninnis's second season he did not have the luxury of being able to swap imports or players if they were injured. Nor was there a weak Sydney team to get wins from.

Clarke HAS gone backwards on last seasons performance even though he could cut imports and bring in players at any time and had the choice to sign Schenscher.

What are these Glimpses that you are talking about? All I see is a team about to get the worse season record it has ever had and the crowd booing them out of the stadium.

I think a distinction needs to be made over two potential points:

1. Marty and his future as a coach (inc with 36ers).
2. Success/failure of 2010/11 for the 36ers and Marty.

Separating them takes away the assumption that one necessarily supports the other. Some people are going to think Marty is a dud and this year is a failure. Others (myself) think Marty will come good, will get another year, but that this year (save for maybe unearthing issues or new players) was pretty crap. I think some assume that because someone thinks Marty will get there, that this year was OK - that's wrong.

Could well be that the stuff on Overtime arises from those two things. Maybe Heal and Gaze were defensive because they think Marty can get it done next year. Meanwhile, Boti doesn't want to give up the line that this year hasn't been much of a success.

I don't think it's been a complete waste though. Bit miserable in parts, but we got the Staunton medalist, Daly could be useful, Carter may be worth keeping and I'd say the team is training a lot harder this year. Small things, yes, but hopefully there have been bigger lessons learnt in what has worked and what hasn't. We've effectively chased our tails for five or so years now.

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Edit: Two red herrings (from Marty in the media) along the way have been the three-year plan (akin to Smyth's "six weeks to gel") and trying to frame this season over-positively. Under pressure, almost anyone is going to cough up stuff like this to a reporter and the result is only to unintentionally distract people with "So, do I not pay until Year 3?" or "Are games free until Week 6 then?" disputes. Bit hard to talk realistically or pessimistically about a season when you have employers trying to sell tickets and don't want to throw players under the bus (rather, let off-season signings do the talking).

Good post Isaac

Just a thought as to why Gaze, Heal, NBL coaches, players etc haven't stuck the boot into Clarke (or really got stuck into Robilliard for that matter);

Is that all these other guys represent their own (former/favourite) teams interests. This primary interest is to win, and in doing so, winning more than Adelaide.

These guys are actually rather happy to see a team like Adelaide with a dud coach. It makes their teams' job that much easier...

Good post Isaac especially highlighting Clarke would have been better to not do any media or eat a lttle humble pie we have all been eating .
I am not going to say worst season ever or that should sack Clarke yet but has been by far the most dissapointing season have endured.

That article points out exactly why Boti is a joke to many people here and interstate.

He thinks it is all about him.

Does he not think Brett Maher did a good enough job of challenging Marty last week.

Is he pissed that he did not get a gig on ten to be a broadcaster which is what he wants to be it seems. I recall a nonsensical stab at local 10 people when ONE HD got on board.

He thinks everyone loves him and does not get that most people loathe him, including the people he thinks are his friends.

Boti ask around how many players interstate wont play here because they dont want to deal with your BS

He serves it to Heal in this article , does a week go past where he does not make an attempted joke at Heal's expense.

Heal and Gaze brought up how Boti seems to think he is the voice of every 36ers fan and that he seems himself as a voice of reason when he has nothing to back that up on.

Boti is a jounalist. Carfino, Gaze and Heal are not. I remember the half time interview with McPeak after he sacked Westover. Leading up to it Carfino and Gaze were sprouting about hard hitting questions etc. When the time came both turned to water. Weakest interview ever. McPeak intimidated both of them. Until we get professional journalists like Boti asking questions at half time of a game on free to air television nothing will change and the NBL will continue as a national afterthought.

Heal says it how it is I'm amazed boti kisses his ass

old baller ?

"Boti ask around how many players interstate wont play here because they dont want to deal with your BS"

While I don't always think much of Boti - I find this assertion to be one of the most absolutely inane comments I have ever read. It is just such patent drivel that I can totally understand anyone wanting to simply IMMEDIATELY agree with whoever asked this question, just so that they could get away and do something useful with their time, instead of wasting it listing to some crackpot with a (lonely) bee in their bonnet - sort of like those dero's you meet in the street - you don't want to be rude in case they go schitzo on you, but you have absolutely no intention of staying around talking to them - just smile, nod your head, agree profusely and above all - keep walking

I think both sides had a point, Boti is right the 36ers have been disappointing and Clarke has not fully adjusted, but also stating he is a great teacher at trainings just not great at match days, but Gaze and Heal were also right in saying give him time he will be good.

Clarke has done a few good things, he apparantly is very hard working (people bagged Smyth and Ninnis for being lazy) and i like the signings of Creek, Johnson (the 2 best u/24s in the NBL) and Bruce and think that gives us 3 good young players to build around, while adding a couple of extra AIS/Boomer guys who Clarke should have connections with, please Gibson and Schenscher, that to me plus 2 imports and/or a Newley/Barlow type gives us a good foundation to build on, which is what everyone bagged Smyth and Ninnis for doing not having a good enough core of young guys, we are starting to get that now, we just have to be a little patient unfortunatly.